DC Animation ‘Batman: Caped Crusader’: Animated Series From Bruce Timm, J.J. Abrams, Matt Reeves Greenlit

[Omegabat]

Few things have had a bigger impact on comic book movies over the last decade then Batman v. Superman. It's also terrible. Having "impact" can mean a lot of things. Many of them not good. Under the Red Hood wasn't just terrible. It gave us one of the worst characters around. Hush is pure trash.

BVS didn't have any impact whatsoever. It was not a commercial success and got bad reviews. A niche group dedicated to calling it a masterpiece doesn't make it impactful.

 

[flickchick85]

Older Jon was and remains a controversial character.

And yet, remain he does. 5 years later and counting.

EDIT: But if you don't want to count that, another Superman "game changer" that's terribly-written - John Byrne's Man of Steel.

 

[Still Wynning]

The Batman: Under the Red Hood animated film being terrible is news to me. I think it’s pretty good. In every way superior to the graphic novel, which is definitely convoluted garbage, I’ll agree with that. The animated film ditched a bunch of unnecessary elements and streamlined it and it is much better for it.

 

[flickchick85]

Oh the animated version was definitely much better than the comic. But I'll never consider that a great Batman story in any form.

 

[Omegabat]

And yet, remain he does. 5 years later and counting.

EDIT: But if you don't want to count that, another Superman "game changer" that's terribly-written - John Byrne's Man of Steel.

That's because DC wanted to establish Jon as LGBT representation in the Superbooks. Bendis was the point man for that.

Hardly when Superman writers from 2003 and onwards ( starting with Waid, Johns etc) kept undoing the late 80's and early 90's Byrne contributions. I don't recall fat crime lord Lexpin ever catching on and who remembers protoplasm Supergirl? These examples ironically are closer to the Brubaker/Rucka era status quo and characters that were quickly shown the boot when Grant Morrison took charge. TLH by contrast continues to endure. Look, I fully acknowledge that Loeb was ripping off Godfather and Silence of the Lambs and the resolution to the murder made no sense but it's still a world worth revisiting both as a reader and creator over the early 2000's status quo

 

[flickchick85]

That's because DC wanted to establish Jon as LGBT representation in the Superbooks. Bendis was the point man for that.

Hardly when Superman writers from 2003 and onwards ( starting with Waid, Johns etc) kept undoing the late 80's and early 90's Byrne contributions. I don't recall fat crime lord Lexpin ever catching on and who remembers protoplasm Supergirl? These examples ironically are closer to the Brubaker/Rucka era status quo and characters that were quickly shown the boot when Grant Morrison took charge. TLH by contrast continues to endure. Look, I fully acknowledge that Loeb was ripping off Godfather and Silence of the Lambs and the resolution to the murder made no sense but it's still a world worth revisiting both as a reader and creator over the early 2000's status quo

And yet, Clark Kent being his authentic self and the Kents still being around, are concepts/changes that still reverberate to this day. Ergo, game-changing. No less game-changing than anything Hush or Under the Red Hood did. Yet, all equally crappy stories.

Just say you don't like the type of stories Brubaker and Rucka wrote. Would save us a lot of time, honestly. Plenty of us prefer them. And the world turns.

 

[Omegabat]

And yet, Clark Kent being his authentic self and the Kents still being around, are concepts/changes that still reverberate to this day. Ergo, game-changing. No less game-changing than anything Hush or Under the Red Hood did. Yet, all equally crappy stories.

Just say you don't like the type of stories Brubaker and Rucka wrote. Would save us a lot of time, honestly. Plenty of us prefer them. And the world turns.

Those two aspects fluctuate from time to time depending on the writers. They're not set in stone.

I accepted and highlighted my preferences from the start. It is you who insists on using terms such "garbage" and "crappy" to refer to stories that you dislike. Though I agree it's time to move on from this.

 

[flickchick85]

Those two aspects fluctuate from time to time depending on the writers. They're not set in stone.

I accepted and highlighted my preferences from the start. It is you who insists on using terms such "garbage" and "crappy" to refer to stories that you dislike. Though I agree it's time to move on from this.

Nothing is "set in stone" in comics. That's irrelevant.

I can describe them the way they are to me. Which I did. Glad we cleared that up.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

BVS didn't have any impact whatsoever. It was not a commercial success and got bad reviews. A niche group dedicated to calling it a masterpiece doesn't make it impactful.

It literally blew up the DCEU. How is that not impact?

 

[DeadlyWest]

It literally blew up the DCEU. How is that not impact?

Don't forget the entire Snyderverse doing irreparable damage to the image of Superman for 10 years.

 

[SwordOfMorning]

BvS is one of the most important, defining things that has ever happened to DC. Particularly DC on film. Something doesn't have to be good to be hugely impactful. It is the cornerstone of basically every discussion of the property in movies and the DCU will exist primarily in conversation with it in pop culture.

 

[Sawyer]

 

[Pennywise]

Spoiler

I noticed that the voice actor for Joker wasn't credited in the episode. This makes me think that a member of the cast provided that one line. John DiMaggio, perhaps?

Then again, they could also hire a new voice actor for S2, when the time comes. Holding out for him to reprise the role, though. DiMaggio was great in Under the Red Hood.

 

[Venom 1988]

Spoiler

I noticed that the voice actor for Joker wasn't credited in the episode. This makes me think that a member of the cast provided that one line. John DiMaggio, perhaps?

Then again, they could also hire a new voice actor for S2, when the time comes. Holding out for him to reprise the role, though. DiMaggio was great in Under the Red Hood.

Spoiler

Same. I love his Joker voice and think it's a bit underrated. I wish he had more opportunities to do it.

 

[The Lazarus Pit]

I’m so happy with this show I can’t stop thinking about. I hope DiMaggio is the Joker voice. He’s the best since Hamill.

I want a Fleischer inspired Superman show in this universe now. I want a full on DCAU in this new universe.

 

[Pennywise]

Spoiler

Same. I love his Joker voice and think it's a bit underrated. I wish he had more opportunities to do it.

After watching a video on YT of various characters he voiced, especially when he used low, gravelly tones, It did sound a bit like him.

 

[Daywalker89]

Her characterization was the best thing about this series in my eyes. Easily one of the creepiest clown costumes ive seen, reminded me of pennywise in some ways lol

Jamie Chung is not getting her due, she switched up her voice between Dr Harleen Quinzel and Harley Quinn to provide duality and was genuinely dangerous, so much so that her line " Maybe next time we can unpack some of that childhood trauma " ain't to be ****ed with. She had quite a sexual undertone in her vocals aswell. The general public reception to her change up has been positive on numerous platforms.

I can't wait to see whats in store for her in S2.

 

[chintai80]

harley is probably my favorite villain in here on how they reimagined her character.
it might be blasphemous to say this - but i might like this version more than the original harley.
nobody's gonna be able to touch what arleen sorkin did, but i really dig how they wrote the character here.

jamie chung killed it with her voice acting for what is essentially dual roles.

 

[Sawyer]

OMG yes, tech noir Batman Beyond.

 

[J.Drangal]

I like the new version of Harley and how her psychiatric background is used in her villain concept this time.
But I feel like the jester motif, for now, only exists as a reference to the original character, which gives me the impression of a version that hasn't yet found its full autonomy.
I also found it a bit of a bummer that her episode just had her turning some guys into punching ball for Batman: it's a missed opportunity to really see her playing with his mind.
I mean, it writes itself (and episode 3 had a nice start for this...), so let's hope the show exploits that in the next season!

Big potential for this character and the voice acting is excellent indeed!

 

[Kane52630]

OMG yes, tech noir Batman Beyond.

Batman Beyond with nothing but neo-new wave music playing in the background would be sick.

 

[Pfeiffer-Pfan]

I’m so happy with this show I can’t stop thinking about. I hope DiMaggio is the Joker voice. He’s the best since Hamill.

I want a Fleischer inspired Superman show in this universe now. I want a full on DCAU in this new universe.

Timm did say he wasn't really interested in expanding the universe. Been there... done that. I suppose if it runs long enough, we might get something. But I'm thinking characters that will really fit the era.

 

[DeadlyWest]

Batman Beyond with nothing but neo-new wave music playing in the background would be sick.

your taste in synthwave is impeccable

 

[Kane52630]

I see the vision.

 

[DeadlyWest]

I see the vision.

Drop your synthwave playlist

I'm being dead serious