Superman Returns 11 Clips Posted on IESB!

[Cinemaman]

It was one of the high points of the clips. I liked the scene. Richard seems to be a nice guy, and he really seems to hold his own around Lois. It's good to see them laughing and talking together. And the super-hearing effect has improved over the ears. I like Singer's version better than what they did in Smallville.

Agreed. Singer has not only fantstic and rich vissual style, but also very good strategy of every scene, that what I love in his movies.

 

[Showtime]

As I think, Singer is trying to make this movie not for only fans, but also for general people, who have doubts about this movie.

That scene was for general people, because it says that emotional side of Supes can be showed not only for himself.

Besides I see that scene also for fans. It reminds that fly from STM.

Singer made a great job trying to show this movie with positive side for general people and fans.

While X3 had only vissual effects and terrible storylines, SR has love story, very smart dialogues, excellent acting and enough action.

It is perfect Superman movie.

And I see it being even one of the best comic book movies.

But there is also dark side, Lex Luthor and NK. It is atmosphere, where Superman feels himself uncomfortable.

So I see there movie for general people and fanboys with light and dark sides, which can show the whole atmosphere and be used for people to feel, what the main hero feels.

Superman is trying to be not only human (emotinaly side), but also kryptonian with his destiny and history. He is trying to connect those 2 difficult sides.

Very well put Cinnamon. Refrain from comparing Returns to X3 in a negative manner and your point is golden.

 

[Fatboy Roberts]

Like leads to love, and thats what good ol' Supes is trying to play at. Don't kid yourself. The scene is a massacre for Superman's virtuous character.

Yes, and fear leads to anger, and anger leads to hate and hate leads to DVD sales and on and on

Seriously though, "Slaughter" is way pushing it, especially for what it is we've seen. Again, I asked earlier--why didn't any of this come up before. We knew how that scene started. We knew how it ended. We knew that they almost kissed. This is stuff that showed up online about 6 months ago at the LATEST.

How did we think it was going to get to that point? Why NOW is this such a sticking point for the character and the story? We've even had a novel thread that details their conversation and even then it wasn't a cause of worry and felt like Superman--now it's something as simplistic and stereotypical as "homewrecking?" What's the alternative from going point a to point b on this WITHOUT getting what we have?

The argument seems to suffer from a sort of sly reductionist angle, yunno? Reduce what you see to a simple one sentence stereotype, and then hammer on the stereotype as opposed to what we saw (Which, to be fair, was a scene out of context without the benefit of a lead-in or exit from the sequence)

I still dont' see SEDUCTION. He knows what's up. He just met everybody at the office, he knows what's happened, he's read her article, and again, he's just SAD. Confused. Lost, on shaky footing. Trying to reconcile SOME of that with the person most important in his life isn't seduction, I don't think. He's trying to get some sense of closure--even if he doesn't know it yet.

That characterization seems to fit better than Hunter's "Dude with a porsche" comparison.

And I sorta feel I gotta tack this on, but Hunter and I have gone round before, but I hope he knows I'm not attacking him or crapping on his opinion. I think he's looking at it wrong, but I'm not gonna give him hell for it

 

[Cinemaman]

Very well put Cinnamon. Refrain from comparing Returns to X3 in a negative manner and your point is golden.

Thank you, your opinion was necessary for me, because I know how excellent can be your stuff about character's development and ways of storylines

 

[Showtime]

I think im now a middly

i agree there are many good posters been lost



If it was Terri Hatcher then...........

On a more positive note of what i posted,that was the first Lex scene since the initial FOS scene in trailer 1 that i have liked

That Lex scene was great. A little tribute to Hackman's Luthor in regards to the books. Some nice ideas though.

My favorite scene by far out of the set was the scene with Clark and Ma Kent.

I didn't see the scene with Perry for some reason. I must have missed it. I thought I downloaded them all on to my desktop at home but I must have missed something.

In regards to the flying scene we have been discussing, I didn't like the fact that Superman seemingly begged Lois to come fly with him. That was a little weird to me.

 

[Hunter Rider]

And I sorta feel I gotta tack this on, but Hunter and I have gone round before, but I hope he knows I'm not attacking him or crapping on his opinion. I think he's looking at it wrong, but I'm not gonna give him hell for it

Everything is fine

i just don't think that asking a woman who you had loving feelings for out for a moonlight flight and pointing out you can do something her mortal man can't is the type of action Superman should take
One thing to chat on the roof but the other part is like asking an ex to take a moonlight stroll hand in hand IMO and doesn;t it lead to a nearly kiss ?

 

[Lone]

I agree with hunter abt the whole "putting yourself in a favourable light" thing.

But I think it's good in way...it makes you see that Superman isn't as perfect and infallible as people think he is...especially not in matters of the heart.

It's not like he's forcing himself on her...he didn't do anything she didn't want to.

 

[DorkyFresh]

i think the people who consider that scene unfaithful or damaging to Superman's character don't know what it feels like to see your old flame again. if the love is strong enough, no matter how much you fight it, those feelings will always be there...

...i think it's a brilliant scene and it adds an element of humanistic realism. it makes Superman much more believable IMO. when you meet your old flame again after a while you can't help but be attracted to them again...Superman ignoring those types of feelings would be kinda pointless to me. there's no struggle, there's no drama...it's just Superman being perfect.

 

[Fatboy Roberts]

Well, it seems his main goal ISN'T to get Lois to fall in love with him (although it's obvious that's back there in his mind somewhere) but HIS first question to her isn't "Why did you hook up" "Why did you have a kid" or anything like that--it's "Why did you write the article." He wants to restore her faith in him, to help repair the damage he's caused, the trust he's broken.

She's cautious, but she's also the one person he NEEDS to reach before he can reach anyone else. And that's why it sounds like a Plea. Because he needs to get her up in that air and look out at those lights and understand what it is he sees and hears, even if she can't hear it herself--to point out to her that the article just MIGHT not fit anymore.

He really NEEDS that. I don't think the plea makes him extra weak in that case, and while the clip is edited to highlight the romantic side, I don't think that's at all the point of the scene in the larger view, and the novelization seems to bear that out. If there's longing, forlorn looks, that's because they haven't TOUCHED each other in 5 years. But again--he doesn't get the girl. She still rejects him on that level. and he's ACCEPTING of that because his main goal wasn't to wreck her home and show off his porsche--his main goal was to prove her article about him WRONG.

 

[SuperDaniel]

^^ EXACTELY. Couldn`t have said it better my self, Fatboy!

The point of the flight its to ilustrate to Lois how people still need a saviour. Also, we all know that Superman and Lois ARE going to end up together in the sequels. IT IS A FACT.

And his please is just him being Kind. Its amazing how Routh is Superman. He just has the genlte and powerfull thing in his performance. He is pefect!

 

[J.Howlett]

Excellent points, Fatboy.

That's how the scene reads in the novel.

 

[Showtime]

The point of the flight its to ilustrate to Lois how people still need a saviour. Also, we all know that Superman and Lois ARE going to end up together in the sequels. IT IS A FACT.

You don't know it's fact that they end up together in sequels? Although its the most likely scenario, you can't claim that as fact. Come on.

 

[bsquad]

Like him? Well, excuse me. She was in love with him. He knew that. And now he returns, and wants her to like him again? Like leads to love, and thats what good ol' Supes is trying to play at. Don't kid yourself. The scene is a massacre for Superman's virtuous character.

I would'nt go that far as to say its a massacre.If anything he just wants her to understand why they left and to remember why she believed in him so much before. Whatever happens i'm sure it's not because Superman wants to be a homewrecker. And i'm sure whatever happens he will realize where he stands with this drama

 

[SuperDaniel]

Well...

Spoiler

its Superman`s son, not Richards, Lois loves Superman, Superman loves Lois, etc etc etc. He will end up with her in the sequel.

 

[Cinemaman]

Plane sequence looks for me like one of the greatest action scenes ever.

It had pannic from people in the plaine and Superman trying to save them without hurting.

Lex scene was perfect. Spacey is speaking like perfect Lex. He has everything what real Lex need.

Scene with Perry shows us how serious White is and it looks like he has the power and full control. But when I saw new pics with him and Lois, I had realized that he also could be some kind of 2nd father for Lois who can help her anytime.

I also love that dramatic scene with Clarck and Ma kent. I was impressed their acting.

That scene with Lois and Richard was very funny and showed me that Richard can also be very good husband for Lois. Clark was looked uncomportable and a bit confused about their talking. That is what I wanted to see.

The fax clip showed that both Clark and Richard can be worried about their one love. While Clarck was shoked, Richard was starting to make something to find her.

And that roof scene, I said enough about it.

Well, I also love dialogue between Lois and Richard in their house. Lois was a bit strained, when Richard asked her about Superman.

So I can say, that I loved all clips and glad that this movie will be greater than I thought.

 

[skruloos]

Like him? Well, excuse me. She was in love with him. He knew that. And now he returns, and wants her to like him again? Like leads to love, and thats what good ol' Supes is trying to play at. Don't kid yourself. The scene is a massacre for Superman's virtuous character.

Vituous character? I don't know about that so much. Seems that's always the eternal struggle for Clark/Kal/Superman. He has values and always tries to do what's right but he also has human faults and feelings. I've never thought that he was the perfect person in the comics. The dichotomy to me has always been that he is as powerful as a God with the personal faults and weaknesses as a human. I think that sometimes he is completely unaware of his actions simply because he is a bit on the naive side and a romantic.

But I digress. Anyone who knows me knows I'm about exploring new territory with a character. It's about putting a character in different situations to see how they are able to adapt or react to it. If the character was locked in a box of boundaries that could never be pushed, then he would eventually become stagnant. How DO you make Superman the third wheel in a love triangle that still preserves his own personal values? How do you show him as a jealous lover who only has himself to blame for his loss? How do you show him trying to reach out to the one woman he was vulnerable for? Do you just expect him to give up? Where's the personal drama in that? As with everything, I want to see how this whole thing plays out. I'm glad Singer's taking these chances. If he pulls it off, it could add new dimensions to Superman and his supporting cast. If he doesn't, then the comics will still exist as is anyway. It's a win/win situation, IMHO.

 

[SuperDaniel]

THIS MOVIE WILL OWN THE SUMMER. THANKS TO SINGER. He just gets Superman.

ROUTH IS PERFECT!

 

[Showtime]

I've never thought that he was the perfect person in the comics. The dichotomy to me has always been that he is as powerful as a God with the personal faults and weaknesses as a human. I think that sometimes he is completely unaware of his actions simply because he is a bit on the naive side and a romantic.

Very nicely put. This is what Zod found so astounding in Superman 2, "He actually cares for these humans." Zod didn't care in the least because he wasn't "raised as a human being". This weakness for the people of earth is strewn all over the pages of the comics and etched in film cells of all four Superman movies.

But I digress. Anyone who knows me knows I'm about exploring new territory with a character. It's about putting a character in different situations to see how they are able to adapt or react to it. If the character was locked in a box of boundaries that could never be pushed, then he would eventually become stagnant.

Spoken like a true writer.

 

[Superman \S/]

Did they remove the clips? I can clip on them but when the page loads, it doesn't show anything. Why is god doing this to me?

 

[Naite22]

Why The **** Is The Page Closed Now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?

 

[cabel]

the clips arent working for me

 

[Mr. Credible]

so, does Richard suspect Clark of being Superman?

i definately got that idea from the 'see through anything' clip.

 

[Fatboy Roberts]

I think he might have but Clark's act really pretty much killed that.

 

[Showtime]

I think he might have but Clark's act really pretty much killed that.

I found that little sequence quite humorous.

 

[Fatboy Roberts]

yeah, it's a nice nod to and simultaneous send-up of the "disguise."