2009 MLB Thread, part 2

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I like the snarky looking Lupica at the bottom there. His face is just :nono:
 
Guess that means the Rays are planning on moving Zobrist to second base next year or calling up Beckham and moving Bartlett there.

Didnt realize you could trade while the WS was still ongoing?
 
I agree, which is why I'll be ignoring any statements about starting Gaudin. This one ESPN said they should have started Gaudin for game 5, and then Start AJ for game 6 and Pettite for Game 7, and then said have CC in the bullpen for game 7. That's basically saying to me you'd start Gaudin over CC, which he probably didn't mean, but that's how it sounds, and it is insane.

Starting Gaudin in Game 5 wasnt an option for Girardi. Anyone with even a rudimentary knowledge of the last 3 months of the season knows this. Gaudin cannot get left-handed hitters out. he wouldnt stand a chance against a Phillies team that is stacked with great left-handed hitting and more than capable switch hitters. Not starting Gaudin isnt Guirardi's mistake. Girardi's mistake was sticking Joba back in the pen for the playoffs.
 
Starting Gaudin in Game 5 wasnt an option for Girardi. Anyone with even a rudimentary knowledge of the last 3 months of the season knows this. Gaudin cannot get left-handed hitters out. he wouldnt stand a chance against a Phillies team that is stacked with great left-handed hitting and more than capable switch hitters. Not starting Gaudin isnt Guirardi's mistake. Girardi's mistake was sticking Joba back in the pen for the playoffs.

You are telling me Gaudin would have lasted less than AJ's brilliant outing? The point is, game 5 WAS NOT a must win for the Yankees but Girardi acted like it was. If the series was tied 2-2 or the team was down 1-3 then by all means yes, you go with AJ on short rest. But being up 3-1 allows you latitude. You don't jeopardize the rest of your staff when you are in the position of being up 3-1, period! But Girardi just did that, and now he made the series much more difficult for the team than it had to be.

You pitch Gaudin and you take your chances. After all, he is a major league pitcher, this isn't some single A starter we are using for the first time and he is built up enough to throw at least 60 pitches. If he tanks worse than AJ did, which I find that very hard to believe, than you pitch the rest of the night the same way they ended up doing after AJ anyway, by using Aceves, Coke etc...

If Andy lasts 4 innings tonight, it will be a miracle. Andy admitted he had "nothing" in his last outing against the Phillies but he had to gut it out. Now he is even on less rest. Phillies will tee off of him. Girardi brought this upon himself when it wasn't in the least bit necessary. Now he has Phillies batters salivating at the way the Yanks pitching is lined up.

AJ on regular rest, AT HOME, wins tonight's game, no doubt about it. Now, I would favor a crafty Pedro over a short rested Pettitte who will get teed off tonight. Which leads us into a crapshoot game 7, which was completely avoidable!
 
You are telling me Gaudin would have lasted less than AJ's brilliant outing? The point is, game 5 WAS NOT a must win for the Yankees but Girardi acted like it was. If the series was tied 2-2 or the team was down 1-3 then by all means yes, you go with AJ on short rest. But being up 3-1 allows you latitude. You don't jeopardize the rest of your staff when you are in the position of being up 3-1, period! But Girardi just did that, and now he made the series much more difficult for the team than it had to be.

You pitch Gaudin and you take your chances. After all, he is a major league pitcher, this isn't some single A starter we are using for the first time and he is built up enough to throw at least 60 pitches. If he tanks worse than AJ did, which I find that very hard to believe, than you pitch the rest of the night the same way they ended up doing after AJ anyway, by using Aceves, Coke etc...

If Andy lasts 4 innings tonight, it will be a miracle. Andy admitted he had "nothing" in his last outing against the Phillies but he had to gut it out. Now he is even on less rest. Phillies will tee off of him. Girardi brought this upon himself when it wasn't in the least bit necessary. Now he has Phillies batters salivating at the way the Yanks pitching is lined up.

AJ on regular rest, AT HOME, wins tonight's game, no doubt about it. Now, I would favor a crafty Pedro over a short rested Pettitte who will get teed off tonight. Which leads us into a crapshoot game 7, which was completely avoidable!

Well-said, Flawless.
 
You are telling me Gaudin would have lasted less than AJ's brilliant outing? The point is, game 5 WAS NOT a must win for the Yankees but Girardi acted like it was. If the series was tied 2-2 or the team was down 1-3 then by all means yes, you go with AJ on short rest. But being up 3-1 allows you latitude. You don't jeopardize the rest of your staff when you are in the position of being up 3-1, period! But Girardi just did that, and now he made the series much more difficult for the team than it had to be.

Every game comes down to being a must win, no matter the circumstances. If Girardi had started Gaudin for game 5, Burnett in game 6 and C.C in game 7 and they lost them all, people would question his actions not starting Burnett in game 5 and not starting Pettitte at all. Like Spidey-Bat said, he was screwed either way. You say don't jeopardize the staff when in this position, but I say don't jeopradize a game when it could come back to haunt you. Before game 5 started, Burnett gave the Yankees the best chance to win, not Gaudin.


You pitch Gaudin and you take your chances. After all, he is a major league pitcher, this isn't some single A starter we are using for the first time and he is built up enough to throw at least 60 pitches. If he tanks worse than AJ did, which I find that very hard to believe, than you pitch the rest of the night the same way they ended up doing after AJ anyway, by using Aceves, Coke etc...

I say pitch Burnett and take your chances. He's the Yankees #2 starter and gave them the best chance to win before game 5 started. You don't send out a guy who hasn't pitched since October the 20th with his track record in a big game. It's easy for you to say that Girardi should've started Gaudin now that Burnett bombed in game 5.
If Andy lasts 4 innings tonight, it will be a miracle. Andy admitted he had "nothing" in his last outing against the Phillies but he had to gut it out. Now he is even on less rest. Phillies will tee off of him. Girardi brought this upon himself when it wasn't in the least bit necessary. Now he has Phillies batters salivating at the way the Yanks pitching is lined up.

Andy says he feel great for tonight. You act like you have no faith in the team.The Yankees also have their regular lineup back for tonight with the exception of Cabrera. The Yankees pitching doesn't need to win the game tonight. The offense can easily take control of this game by getting to Pedro early.

AJ on regular rest, AT HOME, wins tonight's game, no doubt about it. Now, I would favor a crafty Pedro over a short rested Pettitte who will get teed off tonight. Which leads us into a crapshoot game 7, which was completely avoidable!

Again, you are only assuming that Burnett would win game 6.
 
well here we go...I hope the Yankees win tonight...Btw, I think Chase Utley is a franchise player. Much respect for this guy's swift bat
 
way to suck, Pedro....you're washed up,its just that no one has the heart to tell you
 
Pedro might as well blow up now. Spare us of the sixth inning meltdown. If the Phils don't match the Yanks with runs the following inning each time the Yanks score you might as well turn the game off if you are a Yankee hater.
 
I just want this series over so I can have my Glee, Bones, and Fringe back
 
Time for the heart of the order to step the **** up. Howard needs to get his **** together or the Phils are done.
 
If the Yankees win, is Girardi going to change his number to 28?
 
Time for the heart of the order to step the **** up. Howard needs to get his **** together or the Phils are done.

Yeah I agree, Howard needs to be the Ryan Howard Phils fans all know and love.
 
because Game 7 would be tomorrow night, when Fringe is usually on
 
If Phils do win tonight could Cliff Lee pitch tomorrow instead of Hamles?.....I do not trust Hamels for game 7 if it happens....Or we could use our 2nd best pitcher J.A. Happ...Hopefully.
 

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