2009 NFL Thread, part 2

[Addendum]

It's fine the way it is. Want to have a possession? Get an interception.

 

[CELTICPRED]

What the hell.

 

[Matt]

Check out the front page of NFL.com

The Packers were ****ing robbed!

Apparently fans are pissed off in the forums because nfl.com pulled down the video of the final play.

Its not like he yanked his head around, at best it would've been 5 yards. But even so, this is the nature of the game. Nothing can be 100 % perfect. I'm sure the Packers got away with a few as well. For people to say they were cheated is stupid.

As for NFL overtime, like I said, the only change I'd make is to make it so the team who gets first possession cannot win with a field goal on that drive. A field goal results in the other team getting the ball via kick off. If they can get into the end zone, they win. If they kick a field goal, they kick off and the next team to score any point wins. If the coin toss winning team can get a TD on the first drive though, its over.

 

[Raiden]

Can't believe that Jets advanced, and Pats went packing for the off-season. However, Jets' next opponent is the Chargers, who is the hottest team in NFL with their ridiculous winning streak. If Jets want to win that game, they'd have to rely on more than their defense and running game; Sanchez will have to play one heck of a game if his team wants to advance to the AFC Conference game.

 

[omid17]

Revis may have shut down crappy ass ochocinco but he aint goin to stop Vincent Jackson

 

[StorminNorman]

Revis may have shut down crappy ass ochocinco but he aint goin to stop Vincent Jackson

So many things wrong with this post.

Like "crappy ass Ochocinco" and "(Revis) aint goin to stop Vincent Jackson".

You do realize that Revis has stopped WR's like Randy Moss and Andre Johnson, right? You can argue about Randy Moss not being who he once was, but Andre Johnson is without a doubt a far better WR than Mr. Jackson.

 

[StorminNorman]

Arizona, on a big stage, is the best team in the league.

I think they could easily walk home with the trophy this year.

The Packers are one of the best teams in the playoffs.

 

[omid17]

So many things wrong with this post.

Like "crappy ass Ochocinco" and "(Revis) aint goin to stop Vincent Jackson".

You do realize that Revis has stopped WR's like Randy Moss and Andre Johnson, right? You can argue about Randy Moss not being who he once was, but Andre Johnson is without a doubt a far better WR than Mr. Jackson.

just judging from what i saw from the Jets/Bengals game, Jacksons a big dude, he's 6'5, athletic and a pretty damn good receiver, Revis is going to have a tough time defending him imo.

 

[StorminNorman]

Andre Johnson 6 3, Moss is 6 4.

 

[NewYorkSpider]

NFL Playoff Pool Standings:

Posters 3-1
Poeman
StorminNorman
The Incredible Hulk
Addendum

Posters 2-2
Mister J
KALEL114
Kane52630
Spider-Fan
Matt
FaT_tONle

Posters 1-3
Bond
NewYorkSpider
SurfDUI
omid17
Mal' Akai
Raiden
Alex The Great

Posters 0-4
Holiday
El_Citrus
kane9321

 

[omid17]

Andre Johnson 6 3, Moss is 6 4.

we'll find out next weekend

 

[Astrø]

Can't believe that Jets advanced, and Pats went packing for the off-season. However, Jets' next opponent is the Chargers, who is the hottest team in NFL with their ridiculous winning streak. If Jets want to win that game, they'd have to rely on more than their defense and running game; Sanchez will have to play one heck of a game if his team wants to advance to the AFC Conference game.

They should have NEVER made it. How does a team that the Fins beat 2 times go to playoffs?

 

[Astrø]

Hells yes!



Best game I've seen the ravens play all year. Ray Rice was completely BEASTING the Pats (As he does to every team).

Yeah I was happy about that game. Oh, how about those Eagles?

 

[BlackLantern]

99 Kurt Warner showed up....when 99 Kurt Warner shows up, you're ****ed

 

[SurfDUI]

Defense....anyone,
If this is Kurt's last season, Manning could play til 50.

 

[Erzengel]

No it didn't. Welker doesnt do anything that is irreplaceable. Edleman was noticeably open on most of his underneath routes today too; Brady was just running for his life. They do the same thing every time. Moss hobbles his ass down field and bring the safety and a cb with him, and someone (usually welker) runs into the opened space and Brady throws to them. When your only wide receiver is hurt, and your slot receiver is out...perhaps 5 wr shot gun sets are not the best option?

Im sorry to steelers fans, the Pats are home to the worst OC in the NFL. No question. Even when Moss was fine he was underused.

Play calling killed them. This team had a lot of others to move the ball thren throwing 5 yard passes to Wes Welker on routes the defense doesnt cover. They just have had no idea how utilize them.

I've been saying this even before the pre-season. Manning, McNabb, all took like almost 2 years to get back in gear after knee surgery. Now add Brady to that list.

And it's not your OC, it's your offensive line. The Pats don't have bad RBs, they just don't have a decent line that can help them.

Lastly, Randy Moss is probably one of the most talented players in the NFL. When things are going great, he does amazing things. When things aren't going great, he gives up.

 

[kane9321]

omg..what a bad bad weekend..the jets won,my pats lost...christttttttttt

Pats need an upgrade at the oline..lots of it

Will Mcnabb get the boot now?

Lets go chargers...destroy the jets

 

[Hotwire]

just judging from what i saw from the Jets/Bengals game, Jacksons a big dude, he's 6'5, athletic and a pretty damn good receiver, Revis is going to have a tough time defending him imo.

They were talking about the list of WRs that Revis has shut down over the season. It was a damn impressive list. I can't find it anywhere, but I'm pretty sure it was Moss (twice), Ochocinco (now twice), TO (twice), Steve Smith, Reggie Wayne, Andre Johnson, and Marques Colston. That makes for a pretty strong case that Jackson is going to have a tough time.

 

[Hotwire]

No it didn't. Welker doesnt do anything that is irreplaceable. Edleman was noticeably open on most of his underneath routes today too; Brady was just running for his life. They do the same thing every time. Moss hobbles his ass down field and bring the safety and a cb with him, and someone (usually welker) runs into the opened space and Brady throws to them. When your only wide receiver is hurt, and your slot receiver is out...perhaps 5 wr shot gun sets are not the best option?

Im sorry to steelers fans, the Pats are home to the worst OC in the NFL. No question. Even when Moss was fine he was underused.

Play calling killed them. This team had a lot of others to move the ball thren throwing 5 yard passes to Wes Welker on routes the defense doesnt cover. They just have had no idea how utilize them.

I've been saying this even before the pre-season. Manning, McNabb, all took like almost 2 years to get back in gear after knee surgery. Now add Brady to that list.

And it's not your OC, it's your offensive line. The Pats don't have bad RBs, they just don't have a decent line that can help them.

Lastly, Randy Moss is probably one of the most talented players in the NFL. When things are going great, he does amazing things. When things aren't going great, he gives up.

You guys just can't say Baltimore is the better team, can you? Blame who you want, but Baltimore's defense and running game just beat your ass.

 

[BlackLantern]

beat it like a redheaded stepchild

 

[kane9321]

lol^^^

 

[Erzengel]

omg..what a bad bad weekend..the jets won,my pats lost...christttttttttt

Pats need an upgrade at the oline..lots of it

Will Mcnabb get the boot now?

Lets go chargers...destroy the jets

McNabb has one more year on his contract. It'd make sense for them to try and trade him and at least get something for him. Although I do think he could be a starting QB some place else. I'm just curious if they trust to give the reigns to Kolb. I hear they liked his performances this year.

 

[Erzengel]

You guys just can't say Baltimore is the better team, can you? Blame who you want, but Baltimore's defense and running game just beat your ass.

I picked the Ravens to beat the Patriots.

 

[KALEL114]

They were talking about the list of WRs that Revis has shut down over the season. It was a damn impressive list. I can't find it anywhere, but I'm pretty sure it was Moss (twice), Ochocinco (now twice), TO (twice), Steve Smith, Reggie Wayne, Andre Johnson, and Marques Colston. That makes for a pretty strong case that Jackson is going to have a tough time.

Player Team Receptions Yards TD INT
Andre Johnson Houston Texans 2 24 0 0
Randy Moss New England Patriots 3 21 0 1
Justin Gage Tennessee Titans 3 28 0 0
Marques Colston New Orleans Saints 0 0 0 0
Ted Ginn Miami Dolphins 2 57 1 0
Terrell Owens Buffalo Bills 1 11 0 0
Louis Murphy Oakland Raiders 1 6 0 1
Ted Ginn Miami Dolphins 0 0 0 0
Mike Sims-Walker Jacksonville Jaguars 0 0 0 0
Randy Moss New England Patriots 4 29 1 0
Steve Smith Carolina Panthers 1 5 0 2
Terrell Owens Buffalo Bills 3 31 0 1
Antonio Bryant Tampa Bay Buccaneers 2 22 0 1
Roddy White Atlanta Falcons 2 16 0 0
Reggie Wayne (removed during third quarter) Indianapolis Colts 3 33 0 0
Chad Ochocinco Cincinnati Bengals 0 0 0 0
Chad Ochocinco (Wildcard Playoff Game) Cincinnati Bengals 2 28 0 1

Sorry for the format. Bottom line, Revis is a beast and one of,if not, the best CB in football.

 

[El_Citrus]

As for NFL overtime, like I said, the only change I'd make is to make it so the team who gets first possession cannot win with a field goal on that drive. A field goal results in the other team getting the ball via kick off. If they can get into the end zone, they win. If they kick a field goal, they kick off and the next team to score any point wins. If the coin toss winning team can get a TD on the first drive though, its over.

I'd like to see both teams get at least one possession before it becomes sudden death. In a case like yesterday, the game would still have been over right then and there since both teams got a possession (one was defensive) and the Cardinals scored first. If the Packers scored a FG or TD, I would have liked for the Cardinals to get one posession to try and match or beat the Packers' result, with it going to sudden death if the game is still tied at that point.

Defense would still be important because if the pick 6 didn't happen but the Cards still got a stop out of the Packers, then the offense has a chance to end the game, which forces GB's defense to step up. Likewise, if the Pack had scored and their defense stopped the Cards or got a turnover, then the game is over.

I definitely do NOT want to see college overtime in the NFL, sue to how it basically puts defense in second place.