2009 NFL Thread, part 2

[Erzengel]

Pea*****.
Cocktail.

LOL.

 

[Excel]

Outlaws is not bad.

 

[SurfDUI]

I have watched Tommy Maddox, Jake Delhomme and Kurt Warner succeed in this league, I watched this year as Vince Young changed his career in 10 games - I am not counting Leinart out.

Warner, VY, and Delhomme hit the ground running. Tommy Maddox showed upside as well before his game manager status. Post Kordell and Neil Odonell, he and several others could look like stars handing the ball off.

Leinart isn't even Aaron Rogers waiting on an aging starter to move on so he could take over. Leinart is just Jesse Palmer 2.0. He's one of the few and far between USC recent letdowns

 

[Dr. Evil]

Boldin, Fitz, Breston and the Cards receivers lack confidence in Leinart:

http://www.azcentral.com/members/Blog/KentSomers/72078

Let's take a look at the quarterback position today. Why today? Might as well do it before Kurt Warner makes his decision.

If Warner stays, the Cardinals are set at the position, especially at the top two spots. At 38, Warner played well this season. He was as accurate as ever and as immersed in the game as ever. With talented players around him, there's no reason to believe he won't play well at age 39.

Things change dramatically, however, if Warner retires. Matt Leinart becomes the starter, and after four years in the NFL, we still don't know if Leinart can take a team into the playoffs.

Cardinals coaches think he has all the tools. He doesn't have a great arm, but it's strong enough. He's smart enough and the one advantage he has over Warner is mobility. Leinart isn't exactly nimble, but he's mobile enough to run occasionally, something Warner doesn't like to do.

The biggest question about Leinart is his passion for the game. Coaches have been impressed with how hard he's worked the past two season. But working with Warner set a different standard. Warner often came to work with diagrammed plays. He arrived early and stayed late. When he wasn't at the team facility, he sent text messages to coaches with ideas.

As a backup, Leinart wasn't in the same position. It would have been presumptuous for him to suggest plays for Warner to run. He worked hard and did all that was required, but a starting job requires a bigger commitment.

If Leinart does become the starter, the offense will no doubt change. There will be a heavier emphasis on the run game, which has developed over the past year and a half. The play-action pass, not one of Warner's favorite things, could become more of a threat.

Most importantly, Leinart has to re-gain the trust of his receivers. Everyone can say all the right things about believing in him, but Leinart's inaccuracy this season eroded confidence among the receiving corps.

That group loves Warner for many reasons, mainly because the Cardinals are going to throw a lot with him in the lineup. But Warner also did his best to protect his receivers, to keep them from taking big hits. When Leinart is throwing high passes, as has been his tendency, receivers tend to get a little skittish.

With more practice time and confidence, Leinart should be able to correct that problem.

The Cardinals might have to search for a new third quarterback. That job has been held by Brian St. Pierre, who made $1 million last year. St. Pierre struggled in the preseason, but he was going through severe back pain all season. He has herniated discs and isn't sure what course of action he should take.

Surgery doesn't always work, but he's not getting much relief from other treatment. Even if Warner stays, it wouldn't be surprising to see the Cardinals draft a quarterback in the mid to late rounds. If Warner leaves, it would become a higher priority.

 

[Raiden]

Interest to read that Warner worked alot harder at his job than Leinart did, and Leinart is the one who should've put in extra hours instead. I think if he wants to be a future starting QB, his work ethnic must improve.

 

[Matt]

It's Only Puppet Love for Wade Philips"

 

[Mister J]

Wait. There are reports that Matt Leinart is just kinda drifting in Arizona and not really showing an intense work ethic befitting someone who was drafted as a franchise quarterback?

Well, I am ****ing shocked. Shocked, I say!

 

[That-Guy]

It will be really interesting to see what happens in Arizona if Leinart becomes the starter again. Something tells me those seasons with three 1,000-yard receivers will be a thing of the past.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Interest to read that Warner worked alot harder at his job than Leinart did, and Leinart is the one who should've put in extra hours instead. I think if he wants to be a future starting QB, his work ethnic must improve.

Leinart was too busy banging Arizona State Co-eds to give a damn about working hard to improve his game.

 

[StorminNorman]

It will be really interesting to see what happens in Arizona if Leinart becomes the starter again. Something tells me those seasons with three 1,000-yard receivers will be a thing of the past.

Too be fair, two of them may be gone anyway.

 

[Alex The Great]

Wait. There are reports that Matt Leinart is just kinda drifting in Arizona and not really showing an intense work ethic befitting someone who was drafted as a franchise quarterback?

Well, I am ****ing shocked. Shocked, I say!

Poor guy, he's got to play football, bang ASU girls AND eat pizza at the same time, well the banging and pizza thing can be easy if done right. Just make the sure the box doesn't fall off her back

 

[Dr. Evil]

Betrand Berry has retired.

 

[RAMORE]

Let's go Favre move past legend status this weekend.

 

[Astrø]

Colts must beat Jets. If Jets make it to the Superbowl I will throw something. Mostly a mad fit. I can't believe I'm saying this, but...Go Manning.

 

[Dark Donnie]

I just read that Bloomberg renamed Manhattan Revis Island for the weekend

 

[kane9321]

Colts must beat Jets. If Jets make it to the Superbowl I will throw something. Mostly a mad fit. I can't believe I'm saying this, but...Go Manning.

makes two of us...destroy these chumps

 

[Astrø]

makes two of us...destroy these chumps

Nice to find someone else here who is a Jets hater.

 

[Kane52630]

Nice to find someone else here who is a Jets hater.

 

[omid17]

NFL viewership highest in 16 years

 

[signalman]

Too bad they are going to ruin a good thing with a silly lockout in 2011.
Come on guys get your act together and reach a new collective agreement.

GO VIKINGS!!!

 

[SurfDUI]

The buzz around these two Championship games is like I haven't seen in a long while. These are the best NFC representatives I've seen since....well damn, been a while, probably the '90's.

The pep rally here was nuts, there were about half as many folks there as a NBA Pacer game. Go Blue.

 

[FaT_tONle]

NFL viewership highest in 16 years

Farve, Manning, Warner, Cowboys, Saints star studded team, among other things. Too bad the games have been blowouts. Only thing that would have been better would have been Colts/Pats and Vikings/Cowboys Championship games. I want to fast forward to next year already...

 

[BlackLantern]

so Dallas could get blown out??

 

[SurfDUI]

so Dallas could get blown out??

again.

 

[Kane52630]

so Dallas could get blown out??

again.