2012: A Monster Year? (box office predictions) - Part 2

[Mrs. Sawyer]

I forgot about Live and Let Die. I'd put it in the same group as For Your Eyes Only and The Living Daylights.

My favorite Moore movie is The Spy Who Loved Me.

 

[rayc1971]

The movie made what 400K at midnight and last week Dark Shadows made 500K so the idea of Battleship having a OW of about 28-30 mill sounds about right.

30mill wow! they though it would pull 47mill which was considered low for its 200mill budget.why they waste there time on this it s battle La at sea.

 

[The Morningstar]

I think you almost have to put Roger Moore's Bond in a separate category, with how much camp he intentionally interjected into the role.

In that respect, Live and Let Die was probably my favorite of his movies. It was just so horribly 70s.

Live and Let Die was awesome. It did have some dark moments though. The whole voodoo thing is a bit creepy, especially that part in the jungle. And the theme tune is... AHHH!

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

I forgot about Live and Let Die. I'd put it in the same group as For Your Eyes Only and The Living Daylights.

My favorite Moore movie is The Spy Who Loved Me.

And even if you include all three, it still doesn't change anything.

Live and Let Die was surrounded by the craptacular Diamonds Are Forever and Man with the Golden Gun.

For Your Eyes Only followed the awful Moonraker and was followed by Octopussy (which I thought was entertaining, but most people hate it).

The Living Daylights was between the terrible A View to a Kill and the okayish Licence to Kill.

 

[Marvin]

When people are forced to sit through crappy movie after crappy movie, resentment becomes unavoidable.

1. He's paid and he's famous for such a trade...poor guy.

2. And more to the point. How is anyone supposed to think his opinion is subjective when he releases statements such as that. Weather the next TF film is good or poor what should his opinion mean to the likes of the masses....stupid. He's another Faraci or even Knowles at this point. Most of them are but at least they don't wave it around. It's the few that keep their persona as unbiased and objectively subjective that are really worth reading.
...Drew is as far as I go at this point.

 

[DACrowe]

$26 million OW? Yikes. If true, that's lower than DS. Hopefully, this will be the beginning and end of board game movies for the future.

 

[DACrowe]

1. He's paid and he's famous for such a trade...poor guy.

2. And more to the point. How is anyone supposed to think his opinion is subjective when he releases statements such as that. Weather the next TF film is good or poor what should his opinion mean to the likes of the masses....stupid. He's another Faraci or even Knowles at this point. Most of them are but at least they don't wave it around. It's the few that keep their persona as unbiased and objectively subjective that are really worth reading.
...Drew is as far as I go at this point.

What's his "agenda" though? That he thought the Transformers movies were terrible and The Avengers film, which is similar in tone and scale to the TF movies, is better? That's just his critical opinion.

 

[CConn]

$26 million OW? Yikes. If true, that's lower than DS. Hopefully, this will be the beginning and end of board game movies for the future.

Pfft. A Monopoly movie would be awesome.

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

And even if you include all three, it still doesn't change anything.

Live and Let Die was surrounded by the craptacular Diamonds Are Forever and Man with the Golden Gun.

For Your Eyes Only followed the awful Moonraker and was followed by Octopussy (which I thought was entertaining, but most people hate it).

The Living Daylights was between the terrible A View to a Kill and the okayish Licence to Kill.

I won't disagree with a single thing. EON has always had a consistency problem with James Bond. It's astonishing the ways screwed over the franchise, and it's equally as astonishing how many times and the ways they brought the franchise back from the dead.

And Octopussy could have been good in my opinion, but there's so much forced stupidity in the movie (And I'm not just talking about the clown scene) that really takes me out the movie and really brings it down.

 

[Marvin]

What's his "agenda" though? That he thought the Transformers movies were terrible and The Avengers film, which is similar in tone and scale to the TF movies, is better? That's just his critical opinion.

I've seen many a critic say such a thing in not so many words, Travers isn't so eloquent.

Imagine if you will he said the same of say James Cameron(another polarizing ego director). At this point I'm not even sure if he actually believes Avengers is that good, all I can assert is that he want's to prove a point. And not just to bay, but rather to the GA that seemingly walked all over his opinion for 3 films straight.

Hell maybe after he see's ASM, he'll say something along the lines of "Suck on that Sam Raimi."

 

[DACrowe]

Doubtful. Travers liked all three Spideys, including SM3, because it felt like it had a pulse.

I don't think it's about the GA "running over" his opinion. His point is that this is how you can do a popcorn movie with giant CGI spectacle without being brain dead. I think it's his fair opinion and I agree with it. If he said he liked it better than Star Wars (like some of the fans in the Avengers forum ), then I'd shrug in disagreement. I don't think it's an "agenda." It's just a well thought out opinion on a group of movies.

 

[rayc1971]

$26 million OW? Yikes. If true, that's lower than DS. Hopefully, this will be the beginning and end of board game movies for the future.

battleship is not a flop because its named after a board game.they went about it all wrong it should have been a war film like hunt for red october or u-571.they went with a alien invasion film slash transformers rip off.we just had battle La last year

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

Other than the obvious critic, the other critic I hate is A.O. Scott. That guy is a pretentious art house loving prick.

 

[The Morningstar]

AO Scott doesn't even try to hide his bias. He sees action or comedy films as inherently lesser movies. Which is the very definition of ignorance, which is ironic, because he likes to think he's an intellectual.

 

[CConn]

Well, Goddamn Hollywood puts out so much **** that it often seems like the drama is e only genre that has some semblance of quality control.

I don't agree, obviously. And I'll always prefer a great comedy or action movie over a drama, but the producers of such films do kinda make the genres look bad.

 

[The Morningstar]

Yea, but as a pro critic you should be able to be completely unbias and walk into the cinema with a completely blank slate and open mind. That is the only way to be subjective. If you can't do that, you have no business being a film critic.

 

[CConn]

It seems like most journalists are REALLY bias though.

Even the nightly national news, the slant that they put in even the most basic stories is shocking.

 

[The Morningstar]

Heh yea. I guess it's human nature. Even on a subconscious level. But that's where you can tell if a critic or journelist is worth paying attention to.

I think there was this review from a critic for the Daily Mail in the UK who generally hates action movies/superhero movies. But he praised Avengers as a film. That's it.

 

[Marvin]

Doubtful. Travers liked all three Spideys, including SM3, because it felt like it had a pulse.

I don't think it's about the GA "running over" his opinion. His point is that this is how you can do a popcorn movie with giant CGI spectacle without being brain dead. I think it's his fair opinion and I agree with it. If he said he liked it better than Star Wars (like some of the fans in the Avengers forum ), then I'd shrug in disagreement. I don't think it's an "agenda." It's just a well thought out opinion on a group of movies.

Spiderman was just an example...I actually look forward to him doing the very opposite. I see him being about as even keeled as Jamie of TMT at this point.

As for his point, he could have brought up many a failed blockbuster to prove his point.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

Other than the obvious critic, the other critic I hate is A.O. Scott. That guy is a pretentious art house loving prick.

i like AO Scott.

my favorite are Jim Emerson, Walter Shaw and David Bordwell.

 

[terry78]

I confess I enjoy the fact that the most stuffy of cinema critics are lauding so much acclaim on a "big noisy American summer blockbuster."

 

[Iceman]

$26 million OW? Yikes. If true, that's lower than DS. Hopefully, this will be the beginning and end of board game movies for the future.

I would expand that to any film concepts where characters have almost no relevance.

 

[Venom75]

A few years ago the new Godzilla reboot was supposed to be released this year. Anyone know what's going on with that?

 

[HighFivingMF]

A few years ago the new Godzilla reboot was supposed to be released this year. Anyone know what's going on with that?

The director said today that it's going great and they should have some proper news soon.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

If a critic has quality standards for a genre that's a good thing.

But I hate critics who dismiss entire genres, like all comic book movies.

Those snobs shouldn't even be allowed to review comic book movies.