2012 NFL Thread: Football's Fabulous Final Four

[killface]

yeah, and that's sad. as long as you have the money, you can do whatever you please.

 

[enterthemadness]

Another blog on maybe the Jets maybe will just maybe, should, well, go after Matt Moore.

http://www.ganggreennation.com/2013/1/28/3925224/potential-jets-matt-moore


Oh, and here's a rule to make the NFL a bit safer, but still a contact sport.

HALO RULE. CFL has a HALO RULE. Give the punt returner 5 yards to catch the ball clean. No fair catch.

 

[kane9321]

What a load. Michael Vick, Ray Lewis, Ben Roethlisberger....they all got off a hell of a lot easier than people in their same exact situations without the fame and money would have. Spare me the sob story....lots of people have it a lot worse than these entitled punks and they don't go around killing people, raping girls or torturing dogs.

Plus, the whole idea of playing football equating to redemption is an equally large load of ****.

he went to jail

 

[Darthphere]

For a lot less time than a regular joe would have. Then he gets a multimillion dollar contract on the first day out. Yeah, he got off easy.

 

[SpideyVille]

You know, Vick did do some jail time, and a lot of people thought his career would be over. But the reason why he was able to get a contract was because there were still people out there who felt like he could make them a lot of money, and he did for a while with the Eagles, even though they never won a championship with him.

 

[Warhammer]

It truly is a sad fact, but ironically, it kinda works both ways. Just look at OJ. Whether you believe he did it or not, he had money and could afford Cochran to get him off of murder charges. But many years later, he didn't have money and got arrested for tax evasion charges.

Yes sir. OJ eventually got his.

For a lot less time than a regular joe would have. Then he gets a multimillion dollar contract on the first day out. Yeah, he got off easy.

You know, Vick did do some jail time, and a lot of people thought his career would be over. But the reason why he was able to get a contract was because there were still people out there who felt like he could make them a lot of money, and he did for a while with the Eagles, even though they never won a championship with him.

In hindsight, yeah, I get it. One could say he got off easy and there's no denying that he got less time in jail due to him being a celebrity, but he was done after he got out of prison. However, he had no foreseeable future in the NFL and was bankrupt. If it wasn't for Andy Reid, Vick would still be a nobody right now.

 

[TheBat812]

What a load. Michael Vick, Ray Lewis, Ben Roethlisberger....they all got off a hell of a lot easier than people in their same exact situations without the fame and money would have. Spare me the sob story....lots of people have it a lot worse than these entitled punks and they don't go around killing people, raping girls or torturing dogs.

Plus, the whole idea of playing football equating to redemption is an equally large load of ****.

I never made any of the points you accused me of making. I agree all those people got off easier because of their societal role as famous athletes. I'm just saying it's worth taking a look at the context, and seeing that he did change as a person as a result. The crime was not doing anything when your buddy's start hurting somebody and they end up dead - I'm not sure how many people react well in that circumstance when it's their buddies, and his upbringing plays a HUGE role in that. Instead of focusing on the negative of something he really didn't do, but failed to react, take the positive. If he'd killed the person it would be a different story, and although I've heard some rumors to that effect, I've never seen any evidence of it. The Vick scenario is similar - a disgusting crime, but was a victim of the culture he was raised in. He did his time, and was able to come back a changed man and played some great football. Neither are perfect role models, but there is good to take from their stories.

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

I wouldn't get Matt started on any of these guys, if I were you.

 

[SpideyVille]

In hindsight, yeah, I get it. One could say he got off easy and there's no denying that he got less time in jail due to him being a celebrity, but he was done after he got out of prison. However, he had no foreseeable future in the NFL and was bankrupt. If it wasn't for Andy Reid, Vick would still be a nobody right now.

Yeah, from a football standpoint, taking on Vick was a huge risk in terms of team performance and publicity.

 

[NewYorkSpider]

Then again, in 2011, Sanchez was the highest paid QB.

http://www.numeroten.com/top-10-lists/sports/top-10-highest-paid-quarterbacks-in-the-nfl-2011/

Last year it was Dwight Freeney.

http://www.businessinsider.com/the-25-highest-paid-players-in-the-nfl-2012-9?op=1

That was before rookie salary caps.

 

[Warhammer]

Yeah, from a football standpoint, taking on Vick was a huge risk in terms of team performance and publicity.

Yep, it's quite possibly the biggest gamble of Andy Reid's career. The tragic thing is, due to that offensive line (as well as that defense), Vick partially ended up costing Reid his job.

 

[Matt Mortem]

Yep, it's quite possibly the biggest gamble of Andy Reid's career. The tragic thing is, due to that offensive line (as well as that defense), Vick partially ended up costing Reid his job.

That has to be the worst O-Line I've seen. Vick hikes the ball and then has to immediately start running his ass off to avoid the sack.

 

[BatSpider]

That has to be the worst O-Line I've seen. Vick hikes the ball and then has to immediately start running his ass off to avoid the sack.

Chicago Bears.

 

[Matt Mortem]

Chicago Bears.

I dunno. That Eagles O-Line let the Cardinals sack the hell out of Vick

 

[DoomsdayApex]

Eagles
Bears
Panthers
Cardinals

Those OLs should be ashamed of themselves.

 

[Warhammer]

Those offensive lines are ridiculous. I will always feel that Vick and Newton have been unfairly criticized due to their offensive lines (among other things, of course but the OL is near the top of those lists). To be honest, I'm surprised Aaron Rodgers had the season he's had after all the times he's gotten sacked.

 

[DoomsdayApex]

Those offensive lines are ridiculous. I will always feel that Vick and Newton have been unfairly criticized due to their offensive lines (among other things, of course but the OL is near the top of those lists). To be honest, I'm surprised Aaron Rodgers had the season he's had after all the times he's gotten sacked.

Yeah, both Vick and Newton had to run as soon as they got the ball. Vick, of course, had it worse due to his team giving up six games into the season. Newton's struggles stemmed more from the coaching staff.

As for Rodgers, his struggles were a direct result from unbalanced playcalling and poor OL play. The Packers eventually got it together. Aaron literally kept that team from folding.

 

[enterthemadness]

I didn't read the whole thing, cause, it's Yahoo! Sports and it's very long, but...so, HGH testing? Perhaps by 2013 Season?

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-s...ieves-hgh-testing-program-001307314--nfl.html

My thoughts...

10 game suspension. No Fines. No Appeals. And that is for the first offense. Awww, you gonna cry, NFLPA? Piss...off. Imma be like Goodell.

 

[Erzengel]

Who gets in?

I say Parcells, Strahan, Carter, Allen, Ogden and Haley.

Your class: Former Dallas Cowboys offensive lineman Larry Allen, former coach Bill Parcells, Minnesota Vikings wide receiver Cris Carter, Baltimore Ravens tackle Jonathan Ogden, and Tampa Bay Buccaneers defensive tackle Warren Sapp.

4 out of 6, not bad.

Carter can quit complaining now.

 

[Warhammer]

Your class: Former Dallas Cowboys offensive lineman Larry Allen, former coach Bill Parcells, Minnesota Vikings wide receiver Cris Carter, Baltimore Ravens tackle Jonathan Ogden, and Tampa Bay Buccaneers defensive tackle Warren Sapp.

4 out of 6, not bad.

Carter can quit complaining now.

Damn, that's pretty good.

 

[Matt]

Bettis and Strahan should've both gotten in this year.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Bettis and Strahan should've both gotten in this year.

Strahan's Tweets about the Hall of Fame:

Congratulations to the 2013 Pro Football Hall of Fame class. Parcells, Ogden, Allen, Carter and Sapp. Enjoy the well deserved honor

Thanks for the HOF tweets. I Love you all and I hope I eventually make it in. I look at it as a delayed blessing and I have many now!

I didn't make the Pro Football Hall Of Famea this year but I did win the Directv beach bowl MVP!

Bettis Tweets about not going in:

Did not get the nod for #HOF but not the END the world all inductees are deserving and earned it. Thnk you all for the support. Bus36

 

[Dr. Evil]

Everyone in this year's class is alive, including both Senior Candidates for the second year in a row.

 

[Dr. Evil]

I don't see this happening:

http://www.salon.com/2013/02/03/footballs_death_spiral/

 

[Dr. Evil]

Jacksonville Jaguars: