Not sure why we are comparing them to Thomas the train and scooby doo but sure, 8 year olds watched and learned about the same positive themes from the teenage power rangers fighting evil monsters and teen social problems with their giant robots as they did in the equally silly power rangers.
18 plus adults weren't the ones giving that franchise it's success. Simple point.
Weren't you talking about the cinematic potential of base concepts? You said
, excuse me for not knowing you meant within some base parameters....So the success of Pirates should be determined by the parameters of other "Theme Park Rides" like drop zone or that ilk. Bond isn't a spy movie but rather the genre called "book adaptation." And thus it's success is defined by book adaptation and not fun spy thriller actioner.
"80 Toy commercial" is just as much a "genre" as comic books. Which is, that it's not. If anything it's even lesser so cause most comic books have people in costumes, Saturday morning cartoons(toy commercials in that era) can range from Xmen to Carmin Sandiago, I doubt even you would consider those two the same "genre". You see where I'm going with this I hope. HellBlazer/P-rim/Ironman all have their own genre when it comes to cinema, comic books or not.
Not sure what's the bar for success for R rated black dramas with no budget. As for the island, I suppose you have a point there. Perhaps if they called that film "Transformers" it would have raked in the dough.
You don't need a name character(s) to
guarantee a hit. Take a look over at our world wide box office. Specifically the first two. There's obviously more to it than that.
Cheat the audience? The second movie was a rush job no doubt but ask the 8 year old with a BTAS toy in his hand sitting in the first row watching the first two acts of nolans last batfilm who feels "cheated". The thing there however is, that 8 year old kid isn't the singular reason the Bat franchise has mass relevance. Bat's equally owes his success to many different levels of interpretation. The batman comics of today are pretty mature top sellers in their industry and they make their time warners alot of money. The TF comics of today are pretty mature and they make Hasbro alo.......
And yes, I'm sorry, I'm not sure what else I would call the Schumacher bat films. Certainly not the Adventures of Thomas the wordsmith. I saw alot of batman and stuff in there. If I had to
I would probably call it, what ever the Adam West Batman show was called.
I assume there are better places to discuss this topic, no need to hijack this thread(that I started

). See you next year in the TF thread where we can dance this same dance we've been dancing for a while now.