2016/2017 NFL thread: The Final Countdown

[Immortalfire]

There seems to be a pattern here.

 

[Immortalfire]

Packers homer. We are blessed to have Rodgers. Always have been. Would love to see him win his 3rd MVP. Doubt he will, I think it will be Ryan, and I'll be fine with that. Dude was straight up surgically efficient. He did it quietly, and a touch more consistently than Rodgers did. Sadly that 4 game losing streak where the defense gave up at least 26 points a game, and 40 points twice will land back on Rodgers. "MVPs don't have 4 game losing streaks." But then you see what Rodgers has done the last 6 games. The last minute drive over Chicago, throwing no interceptions, at the time playing 4 top 10 pass defenses, on top of that, has been able to carry this swiss cheese, marching out corpses for defenders defense, and I'm still amazed. Feeling the momentum clearly shifting in the Lions favor and then rushing the team to the line with the Lions subbing and getting that penalty call, the dude just runs s***. I don't expect much from the Packers this post season, that defense is going to let them down sooner than later, but damn it's been a special year.

Matt has been the most efficient QB all season, but the media is too much in love with Aaron and Tom for him to get an MVP nod.

 

[Warhammer]

Matt Ryan is the most deserving QB for MVP. The only other QB deserving of MVP is Dak Prescott.

 

[Warhammer]

In case anyone missed it, this is a letter that Bill Belichick wrote to Trump on the eve of the election.

“Congratulations on a tremendous campaign. You have to help with an unbelievable slanted and negative media and have come out beautifully. You have proven to be the ultimate competitor fighter. Your leadership is amazing. I have always had tremendous respect for you for the toughness and perseverance you have displayed over the past year is remarkable. Hopefully tomorrow’s election, the results will give the opportunity to make America great again.

Best wishes for great results tomorrow,

Bill Belichick”
​

Gahdamn, Bill. Get your wife, your kids, or Tom Brady to proofread things before you send them out. Come on now.

 

[Warhammer]

The 49ers' D allowed more points and rush yards than any other season in their 7-decade history. That's how far away this team is. It took the 49ers nearly a decade to become contenders after they fired Mariucci, and as impossible as this sounds, they're even worse now than in 2004. There will be many rookies taking 49er jobs in the next couple of years, which will only be the start of a lengthy rebuilding process.

I'm just glad this season is over so I can completely shift my focus to pro and college basketball now. Those of you still interested in the playoffs, enjoy. I'll see you in September after I try to purge all remnants of this season from my angst-ridden heart.

I'm not saying Chip Kelly would have restored the 49ers to greatness but damn, they hired the dude and didn't even let him establish his system. With the Yorks being the Yorks and without a coach strong enough to persevere, enjoy the next few seasons of 49ers football.

- Miami over Pittsburgh (feels like one of those trap games for the Steelers, that they walk into as favorites but lose due to complacency...plus, Roethlisberger has played like **** since his injury. Yeah, he's thrown touchdowns but also a lot of interceptions)

Yep, I agree. Steelers can give the Patriots a hell of a game...then lose to the Chargers the week after. I'm hoping I am surprised and Steelers deliver at least half the ass beating that the Patriots gave the Dolphins yesterday.



EDIT: my browser was acting up and wouldn't let me edit posts. Sorry for the triple post.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Matt Ryan or Aaron Rodgers. Either deserves it. Brady missed 4 games, and the team won 3 of them. How valuable does that make him?

 

[Osiris-Rex]

I'm not saying Chip Kelly would have restored the 49ers to greatness but damn, they hired the dude and didn't even let him establish his system. With the Yorks being the Yorks and without a coach strong enough to persevere, enjoy the next few seasons of 49ers football.
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I happened to catch a press conference where some reporter asked if he wasn't the problem too.
"Why should you not be dismissed?"

And York's response was:
"Nothing I’m going to say is going to be satisfactory. We’re going to be judged on what we do and what we accomplish. We haven’t accomplished enough. I own this football team. You don’t dismiss owners. I’m sorry that that’s the facts and that’s the case but that’s the facts. "

Fun stuff.

 

[The Incredible Hulk]

heh did I call that Lions bed-****ting or what? Even when we had the lead at the half, I knew that other shoe would drop. The Lions have this tendency of finding something that works in a game and then going completely away from it. That's both Caldwell and Cooter's fault.

This team has been the "other guy" on the Packers' star's posters for the last 20 years. What a joke. Rodgers in and of himself is a pretty modest and inoffensive guy, but the constant ******ing he gets from the commentators makes me hate the guy 20x more than I did Favre. It's just non stop for all 3 hours of the game. Rodgers bends over to tie his damn shoe and Al Michaels goes off on a 2 minute diatribe about how poised he is.

Going to Seattle on Saturday Night and getting embarrassed on National TV for a 3rd straight week should be fun. I think this will be about our 47th straight Wildcard round loss.

 

[P Supreme]

I'm literally in tears laughing at this WOW man can't imagine being a fan of a team that bad

 

[P Supreme]

so eerie how we have to play GB again at GB can Eli go 3 for 3 in GB in playoffs I doubt it but our defense is legit but nothing is for dangerous than facing a hot team and QB going into the playoffs and ESPECIALLY RODGERS some of the throws he made against the lions were a thing of beauty

 

[STARMAN]

I could see a scenario where the Giants' secondary initially has great coverage but Rogers scrambles around and buys time until a receiver finally breaks loose. Giants defense is very strong but their offense has been so poor they ask a lot of them. They may be asking too much of them on Sunday unless they generate some type of offense.

 

[Themanofbat]

heh did I call that Lions bed-****ting or what? Even when we had the lead at the half, I knew that other shoe would drop. The Lions have this tendency of finding something that works in a game and then going completely away from it. That's both Caldwell and Cooter's fault.

This team has been the "other guy" on the Packers' star's posters for the last 20 years. What a joke. Rodgers in and of himself is a pretty modest and inoffensive guy, but the constant ******ing he gets from the commentators makes me hate the guy 20x more than I did Favre. It's just non stop for all 3 hours of the game. Rodgers bends over to tie his damn shoe and Al Michaels goes off on a 2 minute diatribe about how poised he is.

Going to Seattle on Saturday Night and getting embarrassed on National TV for a 3rd straight week should be fun. I think this will be about our 47th straight Wildcard round loss.

I always appreciate the use of the word ******ing lulz

 

[The Big G]

As a Raiders fan I endorse this meme

 

[NewYorkSpider]

Playoff Pool is up and running.

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?p=34642813#post34642813

 

[StarWars]

Raiders over Texans
Steelers over Miami
Patriots over Raiders
Steelers over KC
AFC Championship: Patriots over Steelers

Seattle over Detroit
GB over NY Giants (Hopefully)
Falcons over Seattle
Cowboys over GB
NFC Championship: Cowboys over Falcons

SB: Cowboys over Patriots in one of the most televised Super Bowls ever...

 

[The Incredible Hulk]

way to go out on a limb there....

 

[NewYorkSpider]

I really feel like the Cowboys are gonna be upset in the Divisional Round, especially if they have to play the Giants or Packers. I'm not sure what the numbers are, but I always hear it's hard for a team to beat someone 3 times in a season? Not sure how true that is? So maybe there's hope against the Giants. As for the Packers, they're playing great football right now. I wouldn't want to face them at all. So give me the Packers out of the NFC.


As for the AFC, the only two teams that I can see beating the Patriots are the Chiefs and Steelers. The Chiefs are playing great football right now, but I think they're hit or miss when it comes to games they're supposed to win. So if the Dolphins upset the Steelers, then it wouldn't surprise me if Houston or Oakland went into Kansas City and won. As for the Steelers, their path to the Super Bowl is pretty tough. If they beat the Dolphins, then they have to travel to Kansas City and then possibly New England. Might be two of the most difficult places to win at. I think New England is pretty much in the drivers seat and on their way to Houston.


I personally wouldn't mind a Packers/Patriots Super Bowl. Everyone has been drooling for it for years. I'm actually hoping the Chiefs, Dolphins, Texans or Raiders come out on top in the AFC. Would like to see someone new represent the AFC for once.

 

[JeetKuneDo]

The reason is simple: it wasn't Garrett's decision to make. It was Jerry's. Jerry wanted to embarrass Detroit and blow them out. It is all about Jerry's massive ego. After running the most prestigious franchise in football into the ground he has finally lucked his way into a winning team in spite of himself and his horrible management. And being an egotistical jackass, he had to leave his starters in to show off his team, even after what happened to Mariotta and Carr this weekend. Jerry will risk his entire season for a chance to stroke his own ego. Since Garrett is more puppet than coach, he has no choice but to go along with it.

The only reason the Cowboys are finally good is because he finally realized he isn't a good GM and let other people make decisions.

I think the reason they played the starters against Detroit is because they were afraid to play Romo. If he played good, they get a "QB controversy", if he played bad, it lowers his trade value. They couldn't even let him have more than one series against Philly in a meaningless game.

The media's attempts to turn Terry Bradshaw's comments on Mike Tomlin into a race thing is absurd. Bradshaw calling Tomlin out isn't because he is black. It's because he is not a great coach, yet nearly the entirety of the sports media treats him like the Messiah. If Bradshaw said the same thing about John Harbaugh, he'd be applauded, despite the fact that Harbaugh has a 10-5 playoff record in 9 years compared to Tomlin's 6-5 in 10 years (with a better QB and more talented team).

Tomlin isn't a great coach because of his crappy playoff record, his teams' lack of discipline, the penalties, the bad clock management, the baffling decisions to go for two or fourth down conversions at times that make no sense, the bad challenges, the bad draft classes for several years, the tendency to lose to sub .500 teams, the fact that he inherited a Super Bowl caliber team and a top five QB and only has one ring to show for it, and so on and so forth. It has nothing to do with him being black. The media should really stop implicitly suggesting Terry Bradshaw is racist because he does not kneel at the alter of Mike Tomlin.

If anything, the media's infatuation with and need to be apologetic for Mike Tomlin stems from the fact that he is black. The sports media doesn't make the same excuses for or overhype John Harbaugh or Jason Garrett. Yet Mike Tomlin is constantly overhyped, showered with undeserved praise, and when any shortcomings are pointed out, the critic, no matter who it is, is written off as irrational, out of touch, and, by some, racist. I swear, Vince Lombardi, Tom Landry, and Chuck Noll could rise from the grave and issue a joint statement calling Mike Tomlin good, but not great, and the media would rake them over the coals.

Mike Tomlin is not great. We throw that word around way too lightly. The only active coach in the NFL that I would call great based on record and playoff success, relative to time in the league and caliber of team inherited/other circumstances is Bill Belichick and ARGUABLY Andy Reid.

The media and other activists don't even realize they are hurting the prospects for other black head coaches. Who would want to take on that headache? You aren't allowed to criticize or fire the guy at all or you risk being accused of being a racist.

The real shame is that Mike Brown did not have the balls to fire him three years ago and let Mike Zimmer and Jay Gruden slip away. Being as Brown is more interested in a yes man who will put up with his penny pinching than a real head coach, I am curious as to who will take over. This would easily be the most sought after job in the league but for Mike Brown. With him as owner and GM though, I'd rather take the Buffalo or Jacksonville job than Cincy.

Brown and Jones...are they the only owner/GMs? Not surprising those teams have been irrelevant for decades.

I really feel like the Cowboys are gonna be upset in the Divisional Round, especially if they have to play the Giants or Packers. I'm not sure what the numbers are, but I always hear it's hard for a team to beat someone 3 times in a season? Not sure how true that is? So maybe there's hope against the Giants. As for the Packers, they're playing great football right now. I wouldn't want to face them at all. So give me the Packers out of the NFC.

Agreed. I think the Cowboys defense will let them down.

And it's not that hard to beat a team 3 times in one season. Since the merger in 1970, this situation has arisen twenty times - where a team that goes 2-0 against an opponent in the regular season, goes on to face them a third time in the playoffs. 65% of the time, the team that swept its opponent in the regular season has gone on to win that playoff meeting too. So the team that swept the two regular-season meetings, is 13-7 in that third, playoff, meeting.

Green Bay could be in trouble against the Giants too because great defense usually beats great offense in the playoffs.

 

[godisawesome]

I really feel like the Cowboys are gonna be upset in the Divisional Round, especially if they have to play the Giants or Packers. I'm not sure what the numbers are, but I always hear it's hard for a team to beat someone 3 times in a season? Not sure how true that is? So maybe there's hope against the Giants. As for the Packers, they're playing great football right now. I wouldn't want to face them at all. So give me the Packers out of the NFC.


As for the AFC, the only two teams that I can see beating the Patriots are the Chiefs and Steelers. The Chiefs are playing great football right now, but I think they're hit or miss when it comes to games they're supposed to win. So if the Dolphins upset the Steelers, then it wouldn't surprise me if Houston or Oakland went into Kansas City and won. As for the Steelers, their path to the Super Bowl is pretty tough. If they beat the Dolphins, then they have to travel to Kansas City and then possibly New England. Might be two of the most difficult places to win at. I think New England is pretty much in the drivers seat and on their way to Houston.


I personally wouldn't mind a Packers/Patriots Super Bowl. Everyone has been drooling for it for years. I'm actually hoping the Chiefs, Dolphins, Texans or Raiders come out on top in the AFC. Would like to see someone new represent the AFC for once.

Chiefs and Steelers really do seem to be the only legitimate threat to New England; Chiefs arguably have scarier weapons and habits, what with their new found explosive capacity on offense and tendency to score non-offensive touchdowns, but Steelers seem far more like a consistent power team, considering they only lost to good teams. As a Chiefs fans, of course I'm pulling for my boys, but I'm jealous enough to root for the Steelers over Patriots just on the principle of being anti-Patriots Power Bloc. Though there is one scenario where I'm fine with Patriots winning the AFC. It's the pipe dream of Eli vs Brady round 3, with the writes-itself storyline of Brady's "Kryptonite" and Eli getting a chance to permanently beat his brothers SC record.

NFC could really be anybody not named the Cowboys.

 

[Warhammer]

If Pittsburgh doesn't get the trophy, a big part of me still wants to see New England win it simply so we can all enjoy Goddell relunctantly handing the trophy to Brady with a huge s*** eating grin on his face.

"You wanted to suspend me, b***?"

I happened to catch a press conference where some reporter asked if he wasn't the problem too.
"Why should you not be dismissed?"

And York's response was:
"Nothing I’m going to say is going to be satisfactory. We’re going to be judged on what we do and what we accomplish. We haven’t accomplished enough. I own this football team. You don’t dismiss owners. I’m sorry that that’s the facts and that’s the case but that’s the facts. "

Fun stuff.

The 49ers owner, ladies and gentlemen. That is why they will fail.

 

[The Endless]

The Falcons offense is ridiculous. The passing game and running game is so potent. I can't see anyone in the NFC... or AFC stopping them tbh. If their defense steps up they go all the way.

I see Falcons vs Patriots in the Superbowl.

 

[Nick Morton]

There was talk of Tannehill starting on Sunday but as of now this man is starting on Sunday

 

[The Incredible Hulk]

Chiefs and Steelers really do seem to be the only legitimate threat to New England; Chiefs arguably have scarier weapons and habits, what with their new found explosive capacity on offense and tendency to score non-offensive touchdowns, but Steelers seem far more like a consistent power team, considering they only lost to good teams. As a Chiefs fans, of course I'm pulling for my boys, but I'm jealous enough to root for the Steelers over Patriots just on the principle of being anti-Patriots Power Bloc. Though there is one scenario where I'm fine with Patriots winning the AFC. It's the pipe dream of Eli vs Brady round 3, with the writes-itself storyline of Brady's "Kryptonite" and Eli getting a chance to permanently beat his brothers SC record.

NFC could really be anybody not named the Cowboys.

Andy Reid will never, ever beat Bill Belicheck in a meaningful game. That's a ridiculous notion. Belicheck will do what he does best (assuming the Chiefs make it to play the Pats) and take away Tyreek Hill leaving Alex Smith to beat the Pats, and well, we know how that will go.

The Falcons offense is ridiculous. The passing game and running game is so potent. I can't see anyone in the NFC... or AFC stopping them tbh. If their defense steps up they go all the way.

and then you wake up and remember, they're the Falcons.

 

[The Endless]

Lol well there is that. But they look a more complete team than any previous version. Mike Smith's old team had a one dimensional offense and a lightweight D with no play makers. This Falcons team is stronger in all areas.

 

[P Supreme]

did I miss something, have the colts fired Chuck Pigano yet?

What is the hold up