2016/2017 NFL thread: The Final Countdown

[Kanon]

Moore just got a hard hit while escaping a sack, flag on the field, probably injured and two penalties against Pitsburgh

EDIT: One 15 yard penalty for each team...

 

[Nick Morton]

Pittsbugh playing dirty today

 

[enterthemadness]

Well dayum Moore.

Thats a TKO by Steelers...

 

[Kaleb]

Poor Matt Moore, probably wishes he was riding the bench

 

[Nick Morton]

A pissed off Matt Moore is back in

 

[enterthemadness]

A pissed off Matt Moore is back in

I thought he was concussed. Dude has a history of those. One this preseason. And then 1-2 his last season in Carolina before IR due to shoulder injury.

 

[Kaleb]

 

[StarWars]

Yeah, this Miami / Steelers game is wayyy better than any of the two games yesterday.

I'm cold just watching this game.

 

[StarWars]

Rough game today...

 

[Kaleb]

The Giants wr's have been practicing in Lambeau without their shirts on, so the Packers better watch out

 

[Nick Morton]

These two teams just wanna give each other injuries it seems

 

[JewishHobbit]

Man... Mitchell's even head hunting his OWN players this week.

 

[Kaleb]

 

[Matt]

Man... Mitchell's even head hunting his OWN players this week.

And Mike Tomlin, in one answer, proves Terry Bradshaw 100 % right about him not being a great coach. When asked about penalties and his team getting into the mud with a team they clearly have beaten for no real reason, Mike Tomlin responds: "I'm not worried about that." Such a short memory. How quickly he forgets what his team did in last year's playoffs. The Steelers had the Bengals beat. Got dirty anyway, trying to push a desperate team around like bullies, which then provoked Cincinnati into taking a cheap shot on Antonio Brown, resulting in him being injured and out the next week...a game which the Steelers lost. There is no reason for the Steelers to get dirty with the Dolphins. They have the Phins beat. Of course Miami is going to be snippy. But why play into that like thugs and provoke them? The fact that Mike Tomlin doesn't see this as a problem and just shrugs it off shows how shortsighted of a coach he is. And then he has the nerve to act indignant when Terry Bradshaw calls him a cheerleader coach. Well he sure as hell ain't instilling discipline like Cowher did, nor is he a strategic mastermind like Belichick (though he seems to think that going for 2 at random points, with no sense or logic behind the decisions, somehow makes him a high level thinker), so I'm not sure what else Bradshaw could call him. After all, the last time a commentator called Tomlin a "player's coach," Tomlin responded with the race card, so I guess cheer leader is the most fitting term. At any rate, I can tell you this...the Steelers won't be able to afford dumb penalties against Kansas City...so Mike Tomlin damn well better start seeing it as a problem that needs fixed. Otherwise one might start to think he is implicitly encouraging penalties an thuggery from his team. Oh, wait...he explicitly encourages it.

 

[TheCommissioner]

f**k Terry Bradshaw

needs to shut his old shingles having ass up

Im not even a Steelers fan, and tomlin has done a fine job and they are currently up two scores, probably about to score another TD

 

[Matt]

f**k Terry Bradshaw

needs to shut his old shingles having ass up

Im not even a Steelers fan, and tomlin has done a fine job and they are currently up two scores, probably about to score another TD

Tomlin is a ****** in game manager, doesn't have a strategic thought in his dense head, and has no discipline on his team and has an atrocious playoff record. John Harbaugh has been a coach for one year less than Tomlin, has had a consistently worse team, and yet some how has a better playoff record (nearly double the playoff wins Tomlin has). Tomlin is average to mediocre. The only thing he is good at it is appeasing the media with stupid, often nonsensical one liners and keeping his players happy (mostly by letting the inmates run the asylum and being their friend instead of their boss...resulting in things like several players failing drug tests, dumb penalties, etc). Sorry, but that is not what a consider a great coach.

 

[Kaleb]

I love watching Bell run,one of the most patient runners Ive ever watched.

 

[Mister J]

Well, what that crap ass start didn't finish, the (now) three turnovers are looking to do.

 

[Matt]

To contextualize just how mediocre Mike Tomlin is, consider this:

He has been in Pittsburgh for 10 years. During that time he has had an elite quarterback (top 5, probably top 3) for every year. He has also had a team that is usually ranked in the top 3 to 5 in every preseason analyst's power rankings and is always talked about as a preseason Super Bowl contender due to the caliber of talent on the team. Every year Mike Tomlin has coached, in 10 years, he has had that. The only teams that can compare to that is New England and Green Bay.

In those ten years...Mike Tomlin has won his division 5 times and won 6 playoff games. Bill Belichick has won his division all but one season (nine times) and has 11 playoff victories in the ten years that Mike Tomlin has coached. Mike McCarthy, 7 division titles and 9 playoff wins. Mind you, the Packers are probably less talented all around than Pittsburgh. Even John Harbaugh's, a coach with a much lesser team, has 10 playoff wins in a nine year period.

Considering the talent is at Mike Tomlin's disposal and the fact that he has had a top 3 QB and top 5 roster for his entire career, there is no reason the Steelers should not be deep in the playoffs every season (or at least winning their division, akin to New England). Yet he is not. In fact, only three times in his ten year career, with a Super Bowl caliber roster and a Hall of Fame quarterback, has Mike Tomlin advanced in the playoffs. He has won play off games in three of 10 seasons. That is borderline Marvin Lewis bad.

 

[TheCommissioner]

To contextualize just how mediocre Mike Tomlin is, consider this:

He has been in Pittsburgh for 10 years. During that time he has had an elite quarterback (top 5, probably top 3) for every year. He has also had a team that is usually ranked in the top 3 to 5 in every preseason analyst's power rankings and is always talked about as a preseason Super Bowl contender due to the caliber of talent on the team. Every year Mike Tomlin has coached, in 10 years, he has had that. The only teams that can compare to that is New England and Green Bay.

In those ten years...Mike Tomlin has won his division 5 times and won 6 playoff games. Bill Belichick has won his division all but one season (nine times) and has 11 playoff victories in the ten years that Mike Tomlin has coached. Mike McCarthy, 7 division titles and 9 playoff wins. Mind you, the Packers are probably less talented all around than Pittsburgh. Even John Harbaugh's, a coach with a much lesser team, has 10 playoff wins in a nine year period.

Considering the talent is at Mike Tomlin's disposal and the fact that he has had a top 3 QB and top 5 roster for his entire career, there is no reason the Steelers should not be deep in the playoffs every season (or at least winning their division, akin to New England). Yet he is not. In fact, only three times in his ten year career, with a Super Bowl caliber roster and a Hall of Fame quarterback, has Mike Tomlin advanced in the playoffs. He has won play off games in three of 10 seasons. That is borderline Marvin Lewis bad.

oh, you're what I like to call part of the "Crossed Arms Club"

one of these fans that is NEVER happy with anything his team does EVER

meanwhile Bell just crammed another TD down Miamis throat

 

[Matt]

oh, you're what I like to call part of the "Crossed Arms Club"

one of these fans that is NEVER happy with anything his team does EVER

meanwhile Bell just crammed another TD down Miamis throat

Thanks for proving that you have no way to argue around Tomlin's mediocre numbers by resorting to a quick (and frankly quite stupid) insult. The numbers don't lie. Tomlin is not a great coach. Advancing in the playoffs in three of ten seasons when you have one of the best rosters in the NFL and a top 3, future HOF QB is not great. But if you want to continue to buy into the myth of media that this guy is the second coming of Lombardi, feel free.

 

[TheCommissioner]

I said, in a previous post, he's done just fine

Im not a Steelers fan, Im a Giants fan

our head coach looks like a child molester and our QB is nicknamed 'Short Bus'

Tomlin is definitely a better coach than most, IMO and I think youre being overtly critical for weird fan reasons

 

[Boom]

Matt, it could always be worse. You could have Marvin Lewis.

Tomlin usually has this team in the post-season, and has yet to post a losing record with the team. Count yourself lucky.

 

[TheCommissioner]

Id hang myself if Marvin Lewis was the Giants head coach

 

[Matt]

I said, in a previous post, he's done just fine

Im not a Steelers fan, Im a Giants fan

our head coach looks like a child molester and our QB is nicknamed 'Short Bus'

Tomlin is definitely a better coach than most, IMO and I think youre being overtly critical for weird fan reasons

It hasn't nothing to do with "weird fan reasons," and everything to do with the numbers. I am not going to ******e Mike Tomlin, as the sports media will, for beating up a Miami Dolphins team without its starting QB. The numbers don't lie. Tomlin's numbers are mediocre. I am calling mediocre numbers mediocre rather than pretending that such numbers do not exist.

P.S. speaking of short bus QBs, Tom Coughlin has eight playoff victories since Mike Tomlin took over the Steelers. When you look at the games that really matter, and look at Mike Tomlin under any degree of scrutiny that is higher than "how did he do beating up on the Browns"? his record jut doesn't hold up.