7.02 - Kara - Discussion Thread (Spoilers)

[newmexneon]

Is there anywhere on the net that I can watch this episode? My DVR crapped out on me and I didn't get to see this episode.

 

[COMPO]

TV-LINKS but, it has spanish subititles.

 

[newmexneon]

TV-LINKS but, it has spanish subititles.

Oh ****! Totally NSFW, Lol. luckily no one was around.

 

[Syncos]

As already stated, a nickname is just a nickname to go by. Those are just titles that people know them by. Just look at the Backstreet Boys, they arent really boys anymore are they? They are grown men. Should they change their name to Backstreet Guys or Backstreet Men? No. Why? The general public know them as Backstreet Boys

Which is probably why the Backstreet Boys broke up when they hit roughly thirty, and that every attempt to get fame again has failed.

 

[COMPO]

Oh ****! Totally NSFW, Lol. luckily no one was around.

whats an NSFW?

 

[Dr Lee]

Not Safe For Work.

Ie nudity, Swearing and the like.

 

[COMPO]

Oh, can i get in trouble for saying that?

 

[Dr Lee]

I think the NSFW comment may have been from newmexneon watching the episode rather than anything you said. Though not having seen the epi yet i can't say what was NSFW.

 

[COMPO]

oh, i thought it was against the rules here.

 

[newmexneon]

I googled Tv links and accidently got the UK site which has nudity on it and I was at work so that was what the NSFW comment was about.

 

[Dr Lee]

The UK TV links?...... Didn't know there was a UK one.

 

[AgentPat]

In re-watching "Kara" tonight, it just occurred to me how much I miss the X-Filian government intrigue angle. They just dropped that like a hot potato.

 

[avidreader]

In re-watching "Kara" tonight, it just occurred to me how much I miss the X-Filian government intrigue angle. They just dropped that like a hot potato.

The dude got shot by Lionel.

 

[AgentPat]

The dude got shot by Lionel.

Hence my disappointment; they ended it too soon. It was an excellent arc IMHO, and should have carried through the season longer. I think the government investigating UFOs and aliens behind the scenes lent a little more intelligence and credibility to the stories (vs. Krypto freaks stealing treasure maps from time capsules), and it was actually... INTERESTING!

 

[Prison Mike]

Hence my disappointment; they ended it too soon. It was an excellent arc IMHO, and should have carried through the season longer. I think the government investigating UFOs and aliens behind the scenes lent a little more intelligence and credibility to the stories (vs. Krypto freaks stealing treasure maps from time capsules), and it was actually... INTERESTING!

it was all meh for me.

 

[AgentPat]

it was all meh for me.

The government stuff? I thought it had great potential. Kara said her crystal had all of her instructions. If lead boss man was able to download that information, they could have run with it - even after his death. But they Just. Dropped. The. Whole. Arc. I would have MUCH preferred to see them elaborate on that then...

Spoiler

retro the whole J&D nonsense with Genevieve Teague and Co.

*sigh*

NOTE: Trip! Don't read that spoiler!!! It has nothing to do with "Kara."

 

[triplet]

Oh, thanks....

I was going to click that.

:heart:

But you do make good points, secret government (or alien) conspiracies are always good fodder for story arcs.

Think X-Files' The Smoking Man and whatever happened to Mulder's sister...

 

[Serene]

In re-watching "Kara" tonight, it just occurred to me how much I miss the X-Filian government intrigue angle. They just dropped that like a hot potato.

Meh. My least favorite X-File episodes were the gov't conspiracy ones. I liked teh freaky deaky creature ones a lot more. I bought a 3 DVD X-File set just to have that episode (name escapes me right now) with the scary family of in-breeds. That was an awesome one, along with the carnival freak show episode.

 

[AgentPat]

Oh, thanks....

I was going to click that.

:heart:

Phew! If I put something in spoiler tags in an old episode thread, it's for a *future* episode, so don't read it.

But you do make good points, secret government (or alien) conspiracies are always good fodder for story arcs.

Think X-Files' The Smoking Man and whatever happened to Mulder's sister...

Exactly!! Those story arcs grounded the show, as crazy as that is. You gotta love episodes in fantasy shows that reference the "real" world.

"They (the Buffalo Bills) will never win the Super Bowl as long as I'm alive."
- The Cigarette-Smoking Man

 

[AgentPat]

Meh. My least favorite X-File episodes were the gov't conspiracy ones. I liked teh freaky deaky creature ones a lot more. I bought a 3 DVD X-File set just to have that episode (name escapes me right now) with the scary family of in-breeds. That was an awesome one, along with the carnival freak show episode.

Those were... errm... filler episodes.

One of my favs... "Clyde Bruckman's Final Repose."

(Oh, and "Je Souhaite" was AWESOME too!)

 

[Serene]

Those were... errm... filler episodes.

LOL! I guess I have a history of liking filler eps.

I don't know the names of any of them, but I just remembered another one that I loooved. It was one that Luke Wilson guest-starred in, and the story was told from both Scully and Mulders very different perspectives. It was a town of vampires and Luke was the sheriff. It was HYSTERICAL.

ETA: Okay, I wrote 3 sentences in a row starting with "It was..." Great grammar. Next thing you know, I'll start talking about tadpole weiners.

 

[triplet]

ETA: Okay, I wrote 3 sentences in a row starting with "It was..." Great grammar. Next thing you know, I'll start talking about tadpole weiners.

LOL!

 

[AgentPat]

I know this is getting off topic, but eh... "Kara" is long over, and what else is there to talk about besides weiners, so.....

LOL! I guess I have a history of liking filler eps.

On a constructive level, X-Files was very much like Smallville. Not the "soap opera" elements, but the mythology ones. XF had its own mythos, which it detailed gradually. It broke-up the mythology eps with "filler" eps, many of which were excellent IMHO. In fact, I think they got better as the seasons progressed. Note: I stopped watching the show when Mulder left. Cold turkey. Mulder gone? Pfft. Cya. [waves good-bye] So I have no clue how good or bad the show was after that. But I digress...

I don't know the names of any of them, but I just remembered another one that I loooved. It was one that Luke Wilson guest-starred in, and the story was told from both Scully and Mulders very different perspectives. It was a town of vampires and Luke was the sheriff. It was HYSTERICAL.

That was "Bad Blood." Good ep.

One of the things that I think X-Files took advantage of that SV seems a bit reluctant to do is take chances beyond S5. SV's answer to taking chances post their 100th episode was paring Lana up with Lex. X-Files got creative beyond the plot. For example, in XF's S6, they had an episode titled "Triangle," which was about a ship caught in the Bermuda Triangle. The episode was made to look like each act was shot in a SINGLE TAKE. That was just nuts! The camera followed Scully through various offices in the FBI building, into elevators and whatnot, and it was done seamlessly. Action takes place later on the ship in two different times and flips back and forth between the present and the past, with Mulder and Skully literally crossing through each other's paths in each time dimension. The cinema photography should have won an Emmy. (Maybe it did - I dunno.) But the episode was ridiculously avante guard. It was something I don't think they could or would have done in the first few seasons. Why'd they do it? 'Cause syndication was in the bag, and they could get away with that sheet. IMHO, the closest SV has gotten to that kind of creative approach post S5 was "Action" because of all the meta humor. But I'd love to see more far out stuff that goes beyond retro-ing past story elements. Are they out of ideas? <- Rhetorical question.

ETA: Okay, I wrote 3 sentences in a row starting with "It was..." Great grammar. Next thing you know, I'll start talking about tadpole weiners.

Eh. It's not a grammar or spelling class. Don't sweat it. As long as the point gets across, that's all that matters.

[Pat waves to Thunder Emperor.] LOL

 

[Cmill216]

ETA: Okay, I wrote 3 sentences in a row starting with "It was..." Great grammar. Next thing you know, I'll start talking about tadpole weiners.

I LOL'd.

 

[Serene]

One of the things that I think X-Files took advantage of that SV seems a bit reluctant to do is take chances beyond S5. SV's answer to taking chances post their 100th episode was paring Lana up with Lex. X-Files got creative beyond the plot. For example, in XF's S6, they had an episode titled "Triangle," which was about a ship caught in the Bermuda Triangle. The episode was made to look like each act was shot in a SINGLE TAKE. That was just nuts! The camera followed Scully through various offices in the FBI building, into elevators and whatnot, and it was done seamlessly. Action takes place later on the ship in two different times and flips back and forth between the present and the past, with Mulder and Skully literally crossing through each other's paths in each time dimension. The cinema photography should have won an Emmy. (Maybe it did - I dunno.) But the episode was ridiculously avante guard. It was something I don't think they could or would have done in the first few seasons. Why'd they do it? 'Cause syndication was in the bag, and they could get away with that sheet. IMHO, the closest SV has gotten to that kind of creative approach post S5 was "Action" because of all the meta humor. But I'd love to see more far out stuff that goes beyond retro-ing past story elements. Are they out of ideas? <- Rhetorical question.

I think I remember that Bermuda Triangle episode. I kept up even less than normal after Mulder left. It wasn't the same show with him gone.

I think SV has gone outside the lines a few times, but certainly not to the extent that X-Files (or even Buffy) did. Promise was extremely well constructed and executed with the different perspectives being offered. I think too many people couldn't see past the storyline to see the really excellent episode that it was on so many levels. Noir was another exercise in alternate story-telling that I thought they did a beautiful job in delivering. Again, I think too many SV fans have really narrow expectations for every episode and when the story deviates from that, they pan the episode, and overlook that in and of itself, it may have been a fantastic episode.

Eh. It's not a grammar or spelling class. Don't sweat it. As long as the point gets across, that's all that matters.

[Pat waves to Thunder Emperor.] LOL

Oh, I know, I just had to laugh at myself.