ABC's Once Upon a Time - Part 5

[KBX]

You know for a second when they brought up changing the future I thought Katherine would be playing Elsa...

 

[SuperBatman]

Rewatching this episode and I was loving the Return of Gold's Rumpling ways in the Enchanted Forest

 

[Marvolo]

You know for a second when they brought up changing the future I thought Katherine would be playing Elsa...

Maybe she is wanting to put Charming's head on an ice spike for backing out of the wedding? I guess thats possible. Not because she is in love with him, but because he insulted her. But honestly Im sick of all the villains feeling like someone wronged them. How about a villain not connected to someone in the town? How about a villain who accidently stumbled into storybrooke and sees an entire world ripe for the taking? Why cant it be that simple and diabolical for a changr? That would be fresh and new for this show.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

See I thought that Pan's agents (Tamara, Greg, and Wendy's two bros) would turn out to have connections to something in the "real world" that could lead to more outside interference i Storybrooke and give me some answers to the questions I have about the true origins of the characters known in our reality. Not to mention, Tamara stunning a disguised dragon/wizard shows that, yep, there has been some kind of crossing over from FTL to ours planet for some time. I can't say how the FROZEN characters would fit into that, but I would love to see the next season tackle some of that.

Waiting for Sawyer to complain about me wanting an answer to these questions in 5,4,3,2,1...

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Um do we need to bring up that this season they made Peter Pan a Villian its not Unbelievable they can't do the same to Elsa.

Well the Snow Queen in the fairytale was a bit more villain like. She's quite a good fit for the show. Absolutely loved these two episodes

 

[spideyboy_1111]

I really am not looking forward to Regina/Robin/Marian drama. They should have had somebody else cause Marian's death.

That was my only problem with the episode. Wouldn't Robin get wind of who killed his wife? Kinda hard to love a woman who killed your wife.

 

[DigificWriter]

Maybe she is wanting to put Charming's head on an ice spike for backing out of the wedding? I guess thats possible. Not because she is in love with him, but because he insulted her. But honestly Im sick of all the villains feeling like someone wronged them. How about a villain not connected to someone in the town? How about a villain who accidently stumbled into storybrooke and sees an entire world ripe for the taking? Why cant it be that simple and diabolical for a changr? That would be fresh and new for this show.

Abigail/Kathryn had no more desire to marry David/Charming than he did her, and they parted amicably, especially after Charming helped her cure her true love Frederick.

Not only that, we saw Abigail/Kathryn in Granny's before Hook and Emma took their trip through time BttF-style.

 

[SuperBatman]

I really hope before this series is over they focus more on who the Dark Fairy is. Whether it be Maleficent or something else.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Comon her movie just came out to the kids last year. Changing her age is not cool, with the young kids.

I hope the actress is young - 18-30 age range.

.... And nearly all Disney princesses are 14-18 none of which are age reflected on the show

 

[spideyboy_1111]

I really hope before this series is over they focus more on who the Dark Fairy is. Whether it be Maleficent or something else.

I hope so too. It really should be Mal ... She's perfect for it now that Aurora is now in storybrooke... That also being said... Where was Philip? And where was her baby? It was nice to see her at grannys but... Lol that seems odd

I also find it humorous that the charmings seem to rule over all other kingdoms... Because all the other princesses are basically treated as commonors in storybrooke.... Aurora surely got no baby announcement party

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Old Phil was home taking care of the baby. My question is why Aurora was still in FTL clothes? She would have gotten there when Regina and Snow cast the return curse, right? So... Shouldn't she have been in Storybrooke for close to a year?

 

[John Locke]

She was a monkey in that time.

 

[DigificWriter]

Old Phil was home taking care of the baby. My question is why Aurora was still in FTL clothes? She would have gotten there when Regina and Snow cast the return curse, right? So... Shouldn't she have been in Storybrooke for close to a year?

She likely didn't have anything other than her FTL clothes given that she and Phillip were monkey-ified at the time the new Curse was cast and only reverted to their human forms after Zel was defeated.

Edit: Ninja'd.

 

[Marvolo]

Abigail/Kathryn had no more desire to marry David/Charming than he did her, and they parted amicably, especially after Charming helped her cure her true love Frederick.

Not only that, we saw Abigail/Kathryn in Granny's before Hook and Emma took their trip through time BttF-style.

That was all before they went back in time. If there is a butterfly effect then some things could be seriously messed up. The way Hook pointed out how nothing had changed makes me think something major was changed we just dont know it yet.

It doesnt have to be Abigail, but its pretty clear that Elsa showing up and her vendetta (whatever it may be) is a result of something Emma and Hook did.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Old Phil was home taking care of the baby. My question is why Aurora was still in FTL clothes? She would have gotten there when Regina and Snow cast the return curse, right? So... Shouldn't she have been in Storybrooke for close to a year?

No. She and Philip were turned into flying monkeys and apparently taken to Storybrook with the curse. They were turned in EF clothes and when Zelena died, were turned back human as they were in FT clothes.

Now why Aurora would give birth in story brook (in EF clothes) soon after being turned human again, keep those clothes on and leave not even a day old newborn so she could attend a night at grannys still in those birthing clothes to celebrate someone else's baby...

Thats a whole other question

 

[SuperBatman]

I hope so too. It really should be Mal ... She's perfect for it now that Aurora is now in storybrooke... That also being said... Where was Philip? And where was her baby? It was nice to see her at grannys but... Lol that seems odd

I also find it humorous that the charmings seem to rule over all other kingdoms... Because all the other princesses are basically treated as commonors in storybrooke.... Aurora surely got no baby announcement party

I think the fact that the actress is doing Tru Blood is the reason why she has been downgraded. With Tru Blood over this year there is a chance of bringing her back and adding her more to a season.

Also Rumple said his vault held the most too dark or unpredictable. At that time he was his evil Rumple self. Its not unlikely he could of traped a good guy with unpredictable power in that vault that he met. So who knows if Elsa is good or bad right now.

 

[DigificWriter]

That was all before they went back in time.

Everything other than Marian being alive in Storybrooke was unchanged/set right.

Also, the urn that the Snow Queen/Elsa character came out of was the same one Hook picked up in Rumple's Vault right before he, Emma, and the unconscious Marian went back through the time portal.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

I'm dumb-de-dumb-dumb-dumb.... Thanks all. Yeah, forgot about the royal monkey-fication that went on when TWWoTW showed up after they spilled their guts to the good guys and Regina in FTL.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

That was all before they went back in time. If there is a butterfly effect then some things could be seriously messed up. The way Hook pointed out how nothing had changed makes me think something major was changed we just dont know it yet.

Well as interesting as it'd be for king midas to bare a daughter who all she touches turns to COLD it still wouldn't add up. Rumple had that vase longer than it would have taken for her to go all ice queen and trap her in the urn and in his vault....

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Here's hoping the writers/producers have a clear cut idea of where this all goes with the intro of FROZEN to the mix. I don't mind that it's "pandering" to use characters that Disney has made popular. It's natural for something like this show to try and feed off the popularity of something else in the same wheelhouse.

 

[Marvolo]

Everything other than Marian being alive in Storybrooke was unchanged/set right.

Also, the urn that the Snow Queen/Elsa character came out of was the same one Hook picked up in Rumple's Vault right before he, Emma, and the unconscious Marian went back through the time portal.

I missed that.

Well as interesting as it'd be for king midas to bare a daughter who all she touches turns to COLD it still wouldn't add up. Rumple had that vase longer than it would have taken for her to go all ice queen and trap her in the urn and in his vault....

True. Ok well nevermind.

 

[DigificWriter]

N/m

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Hmmm... Turns to COLD? Well, given the show's proclivities and history of bending character origins to their needs, and Abagail showing up tonite... Maybe this Snow Queen is Midas' OTHER daughter? Again... I would love to see the Greek pantheon be a bigger part of things and such a contrivance would make that possible.

 

[SuperBatman]

Gotta say that wasn't much of a Wedding with Rumple and Belle. Its really going to bring Rumple trouble if Belle finds out he killed Zelena.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Here's hoping the writers/producers have a clear cut idea of where this all goes with the intro of FROZEN to the mix. I don't mind that it's "pandering" to use characters that Disney has made popular. It's natural for something like this show to try and feed off the popularity of something else in the same wheelhouse.

Well if ABC happened to be granted tv rights to Narnia .... The Ice Witch from that merging with Elsa the Snow Queen would be a decent mashup...

As long as they don't merge Aslan and Simba though... Haha