The Dark Knight Rises Adapting Stories From the Comics for the 3rd Film

[Hypestyle]

...what about adapting that story, especially including Holiday and the crime mob families of Gotham..

 

[Nathan Petrelli]

Spoiler

Harvey Dent becomes Two-Face in The Dark Knight, so you would want him to be Two-Face all over again in TLH?

 

[TLH]

TDK is apparently heavily inspired by TLH, especially Harvey Dent's development into Two-Face, but they aren't following the plot of the graphic novel itself.

Some of the shots from the movie, including the Harvey, Gordon, Batman meeting on the rooftops and the "he does that" line are taken straight from TLH. Also, given the characters in TDK, I think it's safe to say that TDK is as close an adaptation of TLH as we are going to see.

 

[DACrowe]

Freaks versus the Mob, with an increasing tension between Bats and Gordon. Bruce could take in the orphaned Tim Drake, and we could see the paralells between Time and Bruce (such as the Father's Day stuff from Dark Victory) The most of Robin we should see is Tim killing the man responsible for his parents' death, and how it affected him. I don't know about everyone else, but Dick Grayson looked pretty upset when Bats tried to lead him away from Zucco's body after Grayson had killed him.

I say use Tim Drake because Dick Grayson brings up terrible Forever memories best left forgotten.

Freaks and their interaction with the mob is becoming one of the focuses of TDK and I'm sure will be more violent and destructive in BB3 (when the freaks completely usurp the mafia in Gotham).

But saying not to use Dick Grayson (the best because he'd become Nightwing) because of Batman Forever is terrible logic. If that were the case, Nolan made a huge mistake by bringing Harvey Dent and Two-Face back with TDK, after all we all remember how (badly) Two-Face was handled in Batman Forever. Come to think of it Bruce Wayne was in that AND BATMAN AND ROBIN, we don't need that lame character around either.

BTW TDK is already pretty heavily inspired by The Long Halloween. But like BB was heavily inspired by Year One, don['t expect a straight adaptation, but just themes, ideas and maybe certain scenes and characters brought in from those graphic novels.

 

[maveholic31]

Begins was inspired by, according to Nolan and Goyer, The Long Halloween, The Man Who Falls, and Year One. TDK has elements of TLH and The Man who laughs as well as the first appearance of the Joker.
What stories would serve as a stepping stone/inspiration for the third film in this great franchise?
Dark Victory, No Man's Land, Hush? Turning Points. Knightfall...

*(I purposely left out heavy Joker-related stories because imo the joker was done true justice by Ledger and I don't want anyone else portraying this character)*

 

[flickchick85]

Well, idk about the villains, not having read any of the graphic novels, but if they do use Catwoman, I'd love it if they took a cue from the animated series. The Catwoman arc in that was always my favorite storyline TAS ever did.

 

[ThePoisonPuppet]

I'd like to see elements from Dark Victory and War Games combined. I really liked War Games story arc even though it didn't have the best writing and I disliked Stephanie Brown. I still think it deserves more credit.

 

[maveholic31]

i enjoyed War Games as well, but i hope they use the Riddler story from Hush and brief use from TLH if he is to be the villain in the next one.

 

[scifiwolf]

I was going to say TAS as well. The way that show worked, it could almost be considered a living comic series. I don't know how else to describe it. Watching that show is like watching a comic book on a screen. I think it's a perfectly viable and credible source for material.

 

[Hole Shot]

Well the two main things about Dark Victory are Two Face and Robin, so I can't see how much influence it'll have.

This thread is a tough question for me to answer because while I can talk comic, I'm not nearly close to as well versed as many of you. And my idea for the third film doesn't remind me of anything I've read yet.

 

[Franklin Richards]

I think the inspiration should come from other mediums. For instance if you ask me TDK was heavily influenced by The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance.

Like Pontius Pilate, director John Ford asks "What is truth?" in The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance--but unlike Pilate, Ford waits for an answer. The film opens in 1910, with distinguished and influential U.S. senator Ransom Stoddard (James Stewart) and his wife Hallie (Vera Miles) returning to the dusty little frontier town where they met and married twenty-five years earlier. They have come back to attend the funeral of impoverished "nobody" Tom Doniphon (John Wayne). When a reporter asks why, Stoddard relates a film-long flashback. He recalls how, as a greenhorn lawyer, he had run afoul of notorious gunman Liberty Valance (Lee Marvin), who worked for a powerful cartel which had the territory in its clutches. Time and again, "pilgrim" Stoddard had his hide saved by the much-feared but essentially decent Doniphon. It wasn't that Doniphon was particularly fond of Stoddard; it was simply that Hallie was in love with Stoddard, and Doniphon was in love with Hallie and would do anything to assure her happiness, even if it meant giving her up to a greenhorn. When Liberty Valance challenged Stoddard to a showdown, everyone in town was certain that the greenhorn didn't stand a chance. Still, when the smoke cleared, Stoddard was still standing, and Liberty Valance lay dead. On the strength of his reputation as the man who shot Valance, Stoddard was railroaded into a political career, in the hope that he'd rid the territory of corruption. Stoddard balked at the notion of winning an election simply because he killed a man-until Doniphon, in strictest confidence, told Stoddard the truth: It was Doniphon, not Stoddard, who shot down Valance. Stoddard was about to reveal this to the world, but Doniphon told him not to. It was far more important in Doniphon's eyes that a decent, honest man like Stoddard become a major political figure; Stoddard represented the "new" civilized west, while Doniphon knew that he and the West he represented were already anachronisms. Thus Stoddard went on to a spectacular political career, bringing extensive reforms to the state, while Doniphon faded into the woodwork. His story finished, the aged Stoddard asks the reporter if he plans to print the truth. The reporter responds by tearing up his notes. "This is the West, sir, " the reporter explains quietly. "When the legend becomes fact, print the legend." Dismissed as just another cowboy opus at the time of its release, The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance has since taken its proper place as one of the great Western classics. It questions the role of myth in forging the legends of the West, while setting this theme in the elegiac atmosphere of the West itself, set off by the aging Stewart and Wayne. ~ Hal Erickson, All Movie Guide

So if you want one as good as TDK, I'd start looking at other stories. Not just Batman TPB's.

 

[Ziggyman]

No Knightfall...I don't want Bane...And welcome to the boards mave!

 

[SPIDERMAN117]

The Zodiac as insperation for if they use the Riddler

 

[maveholic31]

No Knightfall...I don't want Bane...And welcome to the boards mave!

lol thanks, been at these boards since 02' when they had the main sections on the left, dont know why i waited this long to join

I dont want to see bane either but i liked the idea of a villain (like the riddler) who lets all the criminals free from gotham to tire out the batman

 

[ND Irish]

i would like to see Black Mask. But im not exactly the comic expert so idk which stories of his are great and could possibly be points of inspiration. Im sure some of you know tho and I'd like to hear some suggestions so I can read them myself.