I never said that they were known before X-Men so please quit going on tangents...I do agree with you on that though but it was not part of your original argument. Although I think Ian had Gandolf locked before he finished X1.ShadowBoxing said:
My original argumentchaseter said:
Your minsing hairs to make an invalid point. You're point still makes no sense since Marsden is still in X3. And Superman is in no way its competition since they are not released at the same time. Da Vinci code actually stands to take money AWAY from X3, and it most likely will. Point being they did not have to bend over backwards to get Marsden, but they did and catered to his shooting schedule.chaseter said:
The Guard said:
It was scheduling more or less, and probably Rothman wraith, but not over budgetary concerns. The writers obviously did not care about the character.Nell2ThaIzzay said:
I never said they bent over backwards for Marsden. DaVinci was slammed by critics and has been said multiple times that X3 will top it. DaVinci has been said to not be a film for fans to watch 2 or 3 times while still in theatres...X3 however is one of those films that fans will go watch multiple times. Why do you think there will not be any SR returns trailers attached to X3??? SR is X3's main competition for summer reign. Also, DaVinci is not in the same category as X3. X3 and SR will be hashly judged between one another in the months to come. Critics will weigh their opinions on which was the better comic action movie of the summer.ShadowBoxing said:
And by the time critics are judging SR, X3 will have made all its money and will be laughing all the way to the bank so it really doesn't matter what they think. Thats like saying Batman Begins 2 is its main competition.chaseter said:
Yea...your right. Once the summer is over and all SR's and X3's revenues are in...they will start comparing it to Batman Begins2 that will be released in 2008. Sure...talk about "minsing hairs".ShadowBoxing said:
The point is X3 doesn't care about SR anymore than it cares about BB2, or a movie that comes out in August 2006, or July 2006. All Fox and X3 care about is making money and SR threatens that in no way. Da Vinci Code may get panned by critics, but so is X3 from the looks of it and Da Vinci Code still made 70 mil. That means it stands to make another 20 mil next weekend at least. X3 doesn't want that, that is direct competition. And I know a TON of college kids who want to see DVC... a TON. X3 doesn't have the buzz in terms of news and controversy DVC has right now. I think X3 will make a good bit, but any FOX exec right now is preparing on how to deal with DVC and couldn't give a sh** about SR.chaseter said:
SR comes out next month...X3 will still be in theatres then. X3 and SR are the only comic book big action flicks to come out this summer. They will be directly compared and judged by all come summer's end. X3 will smash DaVinci's box office record easily. Fox has put a lot more money in marketing for X3 than DVC has received. Why do you think DVC's release date was changed? The execs knew DVC would be slammed by X3 in box office turnout.ShadowBoxing said:
Or more likely they did not want to split any profits with X3 no matter how well it did. I doubt X3 will smash DVC, 70 mil is a lot to make especially considering projections for DVC were around 100 mil. For the last time though THEY DON'T CARE WHAT SOME ABSTRACT "COMPARISON" at the end of the summer is. They care about money and that is it. X3 will make the bulk of its money in those 4 weeks and people will be done with it by then. There is a reason X3 made its release date now instead of a month from now or two weeks from now....and I'll give you a hint: It's because they don't want to compete with Superman. X3 couldn't give a horse's ass what fanboys arguments are about Superman and X3 are at the end of the summer. They will still seel DVDs at a different time and make tons of money. No one but comic geeks sit here and compare Superman to Wolverine, sorry doesn't happen. They are much more likely, and WILL be, comparing one sea faring pirate to Superman and not Marvel's mutants.chaseter said:
I know...but X3 will take over its spot as top box office dog. DVC's turnout will continue to keep declining after this weekend. I would not of put DVC near X3 at all...especially not a week before.Nell2ThaIzzay said:
Pirates of the Carribean will hand SR's @ss to it on a silver platter. Pirate's will be the #1 movie of the summer and SR will be just like DVC. It will do great the first weekend but then get trumped by a bigger, better movie the following weekend. X3 will make more money. You can have one major movie each month, yet they will all be critiqued and compared. And yes, Fox cares about what critics have to say about their movies...otherwise they wouldn't have press screenings.ShadowBoxing said:
A lot of critics agree that POTC2 will be the main summer movie. The first one made tons of money and the second looks like it is living up to the hype. My summer projections:Tony Stark said:
I think it will be close but I think X3 will top SR. X3 is more recently established and SR may piss off a lot of fans as well...with all the retooling that they are doing. X3 also had a huge overhaul with promotions, images, and clips than SR has.Abaddon said:
