Age of Ultron Age of Ultron SPOILER thread, DO NOT enter if you don't want to be spoiled!!! - Part 1

[DarthSkywalker]

Nobody should care this much about QuickSilver. If you want a QS fix, go watch another mediocre X-Men movie.

Well this was completely unnecessary.

 

[Webhead38]

No hint of that. Seems Ultron makes him out of some organic/synthetic material. Apparently the body is intended for Ultron, but JARVIS jacks it.

Cool! Thanks for the response! Do we get to see the Vision dematerialize his fists through anyone? Namely Ultron?

 

[Darkraid]

I joined in 2005. Looooong time lurker. Decided to join the community for fun.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Cool! Thanks for the response! Do we get to see the Vision dematerialize his fists through anyone? Namely Ultron?

I believe he does use his phasing, but how I am not sure.

 

[Iceman]

It's a shame to me as Quicksilver has a unique power in the MCU. One of the reasons for bringing the twins into the mix as stated by Whedon was their powers being very different to the existing guys ("not punching powers"). This is sacrificing variety (although maybe he doesn't care about future use as long as he gets to use QS himself) for Joss' obsession with killing, which is becoming a weakness like M Knight's need for a twist in every film. If you've got a reputation for killing, rather than surprising people when you do kill someone I think you're doing it wrong. It's cool not being afraid to kill major characters but not so much if people actually expect it. Doesn't mean the film can't be great like last time by any means (and I'm fully expecting it to be better), but the death also may be in there for the sake of it like last time.

We've got strength, tonnes of fliers and hand to hand combat ability multiple times over. We even have a character who is almost the same as Iron Man, while Cap Marvel and Black Panther have big similarities in powers to Thor & Cap (although I'm very much looking forward to both). At least Ant Man and Dr Strange will bring completely new stuff to the table.

 

[Blade X]

1. If it works in context, then I'm fine with it.

2. Actually, the generic Hollywood boring thing (and also generic comic book thing as well) would be to make Hawkeye all "oh woe is me, I'm a hero. So my personally life must suck because I'm a hero and that sucks." A hero having a pretty stable home life is actually a refreshing change of pace.

3. Cap lifts the hammer=no one bats an eyelash. Vision (or any of the others) does it=dumb. Ok that's kind of random.

1. Whether it works in context or not, it's still (a) a stupid idea (b) a waste of great new character and (c) a played out plot device.

2. The "real" Hawkeye doesn't wallow in self pity. He's a cocky guy who thinks that he is the best hero in the world and who that he is the best person to lead the Avengers. That's the thing that makes Hawkeye cool and likeable (and funny). Hawkeye being a happily married man with kids is NOT Hawkeye, he's generic Hollywood hero 30/40 something cop/soldier action hero.

3. That's because Cap (with the exception of Beta Ray Bill) is the only one in the MU (or MCU) who should be worthy to lift Thor's hammer.

 

[Broseph44]

3 years and 6,000 post later, there is no doubting your place here Broseph44.

Big releases do bring a lot of new and long lasting posters. Fans looking for a place to discuss and express their joy. But then you get those that literally register to complain.

Yeah I'd consider the ones who register to complain almost like Call of Duty Xmas Noobs

 

[Disneyfan]

Not complaining.

Just not happy with certain parts, just like Im sure there will be certain parts of the new superman movie I will dislike.

I was a DC girl before the first Iron Man. Superman will always have my heart but Good storytelling will always be watched.

My issue is stories that make sense and not just thrown in for reaction. Every movie has the "damn that was wicked" moment. I just care if I was entertained. Doesn't mean I like everything.

Of all the movie I think WS was the best in character development that felt organic. Though I agree, no matter what spoilers come, you have to see it personally to see how it effects you and your views. Interpretations can vary. I may not like some parts but unless you have Cap killing innocents with a machete....I can handle.

The Hawkeye family seems weird, but let me see it. The Hawk/widow thing seems like its thrown in just for reaction. Again let me see it. Everything else well thats what sequels are all about. Everyone was so psyched for Vision, wait and see if the finished product renews faith.

 

[Broseph44]

1. Whether it works in context or not, it's still (a) a stupid idea (b) a waste of great new character and (c) a played out plot device.

2. The "real" Hawkeye doesn't wallow in self pity. He's a cocky guy who thinks that he is the best hero in the world and who that he is the best person to lead the Avengers. That's the thing that makes Hawkeye cool and likeable (and funny). Hawkeye being a happily married man with kids is NOT Hawkeye, he's generic Hollywood hero 30/40 something cop/soldier action hero.

3. That's because Cap (with the exception of Beta Ray Bill) is the only one in the MU (or MCU) who should be worthy to lift Thor's hammer.

Isn't it fun when people state their opinions as fact.

 

[legendx66]

Instead of having killed a great character to the film being legitimized as "DARK", Mr. Whedon could have cut some of the jokes and simply leaving the things a little more serious. Without killing anyone. The fans will never forgive him for the kill Quicksilver.
Thank God he will not return to the sequences. Go away and don't come back, pls!

The first trailer had enough awesome stuff for me to forgive a death I don't like. We haven't even seen it man. Come on

 

[TheSpectacular]

Does this version of Ultron appear at all in the film?

 

[terry78]

So does Hulk talk again in this one at all? More than just grunt and react I mean.

 

[Loki882]

1. Whether it works in context or not, it's still (a) a stupid idea (b) a waste of great new character and (c) a played out plot device.

2. The "real" Hawkeye doesn't wallow in self pity. He's a cocky guy who thinks that he is the best hero in the world and who that he is the best person to lead the Avengers. That's the thing that makes Hawkeye cool and likeable (and funny). Hawkeye being a happily married man with kids is NOT Hawkeye, he's generic Hollywood hero 30/40 something cop/soldier action hero.

3. That's because Cap (with the exception of Beta Ray Bill) is the only one in the MU (or MCU) who should be worthy to lift Thor's hammer.

1. You haven't seen the film, nor the context. Ergo, you cannot possibly know that, end of story.

2. You don't watch many cop/action films do you? Because "happily married with kids" is decidedly NOT the norm in those.

3. No, it's Marvel's continuing canonizing of Cap, usually at the expense of other characters. I like Cap well enough, but this "Cap is the bestest best guy ever, he can never be wrong about anything," obsession that they have is just irritating. Especially when they drag down other heroes just to pump Cap up, I'm sick of it.

 

[KBX]

So for people who have seen the movie which character are you disappointed with the most? Not talking about Flacon, Fury or War Machine cameos here...

 

[legendx66]

1. Whether it works in context or not, it's still (a) a stupid idea (b) a waste of great new character and (c) a played out plot device.

2. The "real" Hawkeye doesn't wallow in self pity. He's a cocky guy who thinks that he is the best hero in the world and who that he is the best person to lead the Avengers. That's the thing that makes Hawkeye cool and likeable (and funny). Hawkeye being a happily married man with kids is NOT Hawkeye, he's generic Hollywood hero 30/40 something cop/soldier action hero.

3. That's because Cap (with the exception of Beta Ray Bill) is the only one in the MU (or MCU) who should be worthy to lift Thor's hammer.

You are talking like Hawkeye has never been married before. It's not a new idea and it fits. None of the stuff you said can't happen with a married hawkeye.

Cap being the only one worthy is arbitrary. No reason why it should be true and it already isn't in either universe.

 

[Blade X]

Let's be honest for a second. If Quicksilver is well received and very popular in the movie, Marvel will bring him back faster then you can say "Quicksilver". Does anyone know how well the character has been received by those who saw early screenings of this movie? Also, didn't the actor who played QS sign a multi picture deal with Marvel? Hell, for all we know QS could show up in CAP 3:CW as a surprise character to help save Cap's Avengers team.

 

[Blade X]

Isn't it fun when people state their opinions as fact.

Not as much fun as when people assume a person's obviously own personal opinion as being stated as fact.

 

[natey2k4]

Is Hawkeye on the new Avengers team at the end?

 

[bullets]

I just saw Samuel L Jackson's commercial for Capitol ones Quicksilver credit card. I feel sad now.

 

[marvellover]

It's a shame to me as Quicksilver has a unique power in the MCU. One of the reasons for bringing the twins into the mix as stated by Whedon was their powers being very different to the existing guys ("not punching powers"). This is sacrificing variety (although maybe he doesn't care about future use as long as he gets to use QS himself) for Joss' obsession with killing, which is becoming a weakness like M Knight's need for a twist in every film. If you've got a reputation for killing, rather than surprising people when you do kill someone I think you're doing it wrong. It's cool not being afraid to kill major characters but not so much if people actually expect it. Doesn't mean the film can't be great like last time by any means (and I'm fully expecting it to be better), but the death also may be in there for the sake of it like last time.

We've got strength, tonnes of fliers and hand to hand combat ability multiple times over. We even have a character who is almost the same as Iron Man, while Cap Marvel and Black Panther have big similarities in powers to Thor & Cap (although I'm very much looking forward to both). At least Ant Man and Dr Strange will bring completely new stuff to the table.

Exactly this
QS has unique power and should be very useful for the team against other threats

And Marvel need a speedster in their team
They are killing QS for no reasons
It is like they can't come out with a good plot for QS not having good fights against top dogs,since he is just a minor character

 

[Blade X]

1. You haven't seen the film, nor the context. Ergo, you cannot possibly know that, end of story.

2. You don't watch many cop/action films do you? Because "happily married with kids" is decidedly NOT the norm in those.

3. No, it's Marvel's continuing canonizing of Cap, usually at the expense of other characters. I like Cap well enough, but this "Cap is the bestest best guy ever, he can never be wrong about anything," obsession that they have is just irritating. Especially when they drag down other heroes just to pump Cap up, I'm sick of it.

1. I don't have to have seen the film in order to hate that the character died. I assure you that I will feel the same way after I have watched the movie. A person doesn't have to get burned by fire in order to know that being burned will cause them physical pain.

2. I've seen plenty of them, and there's usually (not always) at least one happily married guy with a wife and kids.

3. It's a part of who he is. Some like it, some don't. I like it. That being said, I don't think that Cap should be able to lift the hammer either.

 

[Visualiza]

For those who have seen the movie, how is Tyler/Elfman's score?

I was glad to hear Iron Man's theme from the third movie make a return in the Hulkbuster clip.

Any other returning themes or accompaniments? How does it stack up to the rest of the MCU (especially A1)?

 

[Herolee10]

I have no problem with Vision being super powerful. He has an Infinity Stone after all.

Doesn't it kind of defeat the purpose of the need for a team then if one sentient being can literally accomplish anything without breaking a sweat?

 

[Gamma Goliath]

I'd like to know how much hulk talks and what he says.

 

[Herolee10]

Death is a nature part of life.