Age of Ultron Age of Ultron SPOILER thread, DO NOT enter if you don't want to be spoiled!!! - Part 4

[Shikamaru]

You definitely have a point, this movie's story was completely structured around Stark. His fear, his mistake, Ultron and the Twins hating Stark more so than the Avengers, etc. Still, coming out of the movie it doesn't feel like Stark took over like in TA. I believe because on the surface level he was less prominent as compared to TA.

It actually feels like a reversal between TA and AoU. In TA, the plot doesn't really have much to do with Stark. Loki's plan and the assembly of the team were very balanced, and there wasn't any critical Stark-plot point besides the self-sacrifice play at the end. No Stark-driven plot. However, he's the spirit of the movie with his great character moments and lines.

In AoU, the story is pretty much driven by Stark. His actions are what push the story forward. But this time, on the surface level he's not as much of a scene-stealer. Everyone else is more in the spotlight this time, and Stark even takes a backseat during the finale, which also wasn't resolved solely due to him like in TA. So that's what I meant when I said he was the backbone of the movie without taking over it.

I've been waiting for your full review by the way, I can't wait to read your expanded thoughts on the movie.

That's understandable, but it comes off somewhat in poor taste to me. I know that probably sounds a bit harsh, but I can't imagine just how Tony-centric it would feel if the script was under a different writer. The fact it's not as noticeable is only a compliment to Whedon's exceptional ability to handle ensemble casts. It all seems well and good if we're just talking dialogue and action scenes, but you can't cover it up as much when it comes to analyzing the thematic parts.

Just to be clear though, I don't necessarily mind a story driven by one particular character. If anything you kinda need that to an extent with guys like Clint and Banner. But when the character driving your story isn't just a huge solo success but your *biggest* solo success, it just comes off as "was it really necessary?"

I'm also writing my review now as we speak.

 

[HelloImBen]

Someone clocked the screen time for each Avenger.

Iron Man- 29:57

Hulk- 24:40

Captain America- 22:02

Black Widow- 19:23

Hawkeye- 14:20

Thor- 13:26

Scarlet Witch- 10:31

Quicksilver- 7:53

Vision- 5:50

War Machine- 2:15

Falcon- 0:35

Seems off to me at best. Falcon is in the movie for like 3 seconds.

Edit-Forgot he was at the party.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I just realized something. Loki is so crap, he lost to the Avengers with two gems.

 

[Vartha]

Lmao nice catch lol

 

[thanos1990]

I guess Thanos is going to will bathe him the star-ways with his blood

 

[thanos1990]

So did anyone think thor under power?

 

[MIKE10]

I'm glad that Whedon finally showed us (when Tony has no Jarvis) that it is Tony who directly controlls his suit by using his brainwaves that can be read or scanned by suit...It's great that it is him who controls the suit...It also shows us that JARVIS (or Friday) is just a sidekick to him who does less important things in the suit or simply make company for Tony and suit is not controlled through some A.I. but directly from tony....

 

[Hmarrs]

It wasn't meant to accomplish anything. He had just lost the twins and the cradle and literally wanted someone to talk to. As he said, he had no one else. A demonstration of his human side.

But I think he also wanted the Avengers to find him, because as he said, he wanted it to come down to all of the Avengers vs. "all of him" in the end.

He could have been so much more demented I wish this would have been elaborated I wish this would have been built on you have enough for 2 movies here...One solid movie on Ultron would have been more filling..It was like a bunch of Appetizers...Scarlet Which and Quicksilver could have been saved for the next movie...Or save the Origins for the next film as a flashback..but no you cant do that because you kill Quicksilver..For crying out loud you have have 4 Origin Stories here for crying out loud we have to follw that plus the main plot plus all this other crap you got going on at the same time with Thor which to me slows everything down...It was like I got all these stories but I know you need a Villian so here he has no point.
Ultron is such a Vital Avenger Villian why downplay him like that...When you pick up an issue with Ultron on it you shiver...her was like a disrespectful child here.."THATS IT!!!"...Ultron???...N That's it???

When/where did he say this? That's really sad, if that's how he feels.

Elaborate please.

I don't feel that he did a bad job, just that he couldn't do it HIS way after being told he COULD

Elaborate please.

Ruthless Stark is awesome

Yes again uncharted territory part 2 looked like it touched on his Alcoholism but never went further.
It would have been awesome as an ongoing story interlaced and then added with his guilt he would have been a Monster and unstable instead of using that Bullcrap PTSD!!!...I hated that and still do its bullcrap...this is tony Stark played by RDjr PTSD BULLCRAP!!He is so Cocky and Narsacisitc that even if he did feel PTSD he would never even admit to himself...Plus he didnt get no Freaking PTSD from being token hostage AND A prisoner in a cave in part 1 or any signs whatsoever then WHAT THE HECK????...Arms dealer for a LIVING????...Yeah ...OK!!!!...Show me some beginning signs from tht at least so since when???..Stop making crap up as you freaking go.His Alcholism with have been perfect instead of some bullcrap PTSD.
The material is there Use it!!!!
Stop underplaying the Material MAN!!!

 

[jaqua99]

OMG I just realized something.

Loki probably had some visions when he fell into the abyss.

Remember when he was talking to Thor in Avengers 1? "There is no stopping it, there is only, the war"..I don't think he was talking about the chitauri invasion. He was talking about the Infinity War, and the events that will be coming.

Loki sees it coming and is now picking a side that he think will be more beneficial to him

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

What was the mid-credit and end-credit scene?

 

[C. Lee]

What was the mid-credit and end-credit scene?

Mid credit - Thanos puts on infinity glove and says "Guess I have to do it myself."

End credit - there was none.

 

[PunyGod]

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[MessiahDecoy123]

Mid credit - Thanos puts on infinity glove and says "Guess I have to do it myself."

End credit - there was none.

Well I'm glad I didn't stay just for that.

Thanks for the info.

 

[Ninjablade]

Someone clocked the screen time for each Avenger.

Iron Man- 29:57

Hulk- 24:40

Captain America- 22:02

Black Widow- 19:23

Hawkeye- 14:20

Thor- 13:26

Scarlet Witch- 10:31

Quicksilver- 7:53

Vision- 5:50

War Machine- 2:15

Falcon- 0:35

Huh, I saw very different numbers for all the main Avengers.

Captain America: 50:25
Iron Man: 45:34
Black Widow: 33:07
Quicksilver: 26:43
Bruce Banner/Hulk: 23:55
Scarlet Witch: 20:59
Hawkeye: 19:56
Thor: 14:18
Vision: 8:41

http://www.vulture.com/2015/05/how-much-screen-time-does-each-avenger-get.html

 

[jaqua99]

I just realized something. Loki is so crap, he lost to the Avengers with two gems.

Which is why I find him so overrated. Tom's looks and general aura to the character bring a certain popularity to the character like RDJ did for stark.
I found Ultron to be much more interesting, and threatening.
Same with Ronan. Actually, Ronan didn't crack a single joke

 

[spideyboy_1111]

I thought Ultron was a little weak, not in personality.. but i still really hated the range of facial emotions they gave him.. i think he could have remained witty.. but the cold emotionless face he's traditionally had, makes him far creepier and threatening imo

 

[Hmarrs]

Which is why I find him so overrated. Tom's looks and general aura to the character bring a certain popularity to the character like RDJ did for stark.
I found Ultron to be much more interesting, and threatening.
Same with Ronan. Actually, Ronan didn't crack a single joke

Yeah but that dance scene at the end was just stupid.
Also how Ronan spoke to Thanos and he threatened Thanos weakend Thanos to me In that scene and I expected Thanos to come and kick his butt.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Thanos probably realized it's best to left himself self-destruct... plus...... could a gemless thanos really go up against a power-gem infused Ronan?

 

[ctsketch]

Someone clocked the screen time for each Avenger.

Iron Man- 29:57

Hulk- 24:40

Captain America- 22:02

Black Widow- 19:23

Hawkeye- 14:20

Thor- 13:26

Scarlet Witch- 10:31

Quicksilver- 7:53

Vision- 5:50

War Machine- 2:15

Falcon- 0:35

Who is this someone? because that doesn't seem right

 

[Marchesk]

Well it makes Thanos a truly threatening villain then because I'm convinced we'll be seeing that exact scene in IW.

Hopefully so. There needs to be an overwhelming villain where some suspense is created for the Avengers. They're so overpowering right now. The only thing which causes them much trouble is internal conflict. Otherwise, they're unbeatable.

The trailer just tricked you into what the scene means which is nothing new for marketing.

Should have known better. I thought going in that Ultron was on the level of Thanos when it came to threatening.

 

[Marchesk]

Also how Ronan spoke to Thanos and he threatened Thanos weakend Thanos to me In that scene and I expected Thanos to come and kick his butt.

It did me as well. I didn't like that.

 

[Marchesk]

Who is this someone? because that doesn't seem right

Well, it sure seemed like Tony Stark was the most important character, and the one responsible for both Ultron and Vision (even if Thanos is ultimately pulling strings behind the curtain).

 

[Spiderine]

Yeah but that dance scene at the end was just stupid.
Also how Ronan spoke to Thanos and he threatened Thanos weakend Thanos to me In that scene and I expected Thanos to come and kick his butt.

Yeah, I caught that too. I think they were just trying to make Ronan look like such a bad ass himself since this was his movie as the main villain. Thanos totally backed off cause he knew.

I also don't like that Thanos would give a stone away in the first place. I don't care if its to retrieve another one. Thats a huge risk.

 

[HelloImBen]

Yeah, I caught that too. I think they were just trying to make Ronan look like such a bad ass himself since this was his movie as the main villain. Thanos totally backed off cause he knew.

I also don't like that Thanos would give a stone away in the first place. I don't care if its to retrieve another one. Thats a huge risk.

I'm fine with him going against Thanos. Thanos would have stopped him if the Guardians didn't do it for him.


The one and only thing that kept Guardians from being an A++ and the best Marvel movie to date, was the dancing and singing at the end. It was so unbelievably stupid and so unbelievably lazy. That's the best James Gunn could muster while writing the screenplay? He's better.

Took it from A+ to B for me. That 30 seconds.

 

[Spiderine]

I'm fine with him going against Thanos. Thanos would have stopped him if the Guardians didn't do it for him.


The one and only thing that kept Guardians from being an A++ and the best Marvel movie to date, was the dancing and singing at the end. It was so unbelievably stupid and so unbelievably lazy. That's the best James Gunn could muster while writing the screenplay? He's better.

Took it from A+ to B for me. That 30 seconds.

Yeah, the dancing thing was out there. Ronan shouldn't even care to even be distracted by it. But this kind of backs my point. When Thanos gathers these stones and becomes this God of Omnipotent power, I guarantee he will be defeated in some ridiculous manner or he will be watered down considerably in order to be contained. We shall see how it unfolds but this is usually the case with such a powerful being in these movies.