Superman Returns AICN interview with Singer

[dark_b]

i'd love to know how you worked that one out.

batman begins had a few very badly edited, very short fight scenes, a really boring car chase, and batman catching a ride on a subway for no good reason at all...

i didnt said that it was better i said that it had more action. and the things that you described as action in BB is still more than in SR.
i am sorry if you are a bigger superman fan than a batman fan.

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

batman begins had a few very badly edited, very short fight scenes, a really boring car chase, and batman catching a ride on a subway for no good reason at all...

There was great action and it was edited that way on purpose, so see how he'd operate and from the perspective his prey.

Boring car chase? that's just.....insane, is the word. I mean, how as it boring? We got to see TONS of destrcution with great music keeping the emotion high.

He took the subway to get to Ra's to stop the destruction of Gotham City.

And.....yeah, there was more action in Begins. Right from the get go, we get violence. I'm not putting SR down, but Batman Begins was more of an action film.

 

[dark_b]

There was great action and it was edited that way on purpose, so see how he'd operate and from the perspective his prey.

Boring car chase? that's just.....insane, is the word. I mean, how as it boring? We got to see TONS of destrcution with great music keeping the emotion high.

He took the subway to get to Ra's to stop the destruction of Gotham City.

And.....yeah, there was more action in Begins. Right from the get go, we get violence. I'm not putting SR down, but Batman Begins was more of an action film.

and it was an origin.

 

[thedarks0ldier]

and it was an origin.

ouch man. I need to write a treatment for the Superman Sequal, give it to Dini and Goyer so they can edit and or give me their blessing. I would love for either of them to just give it to WB and say, "Here is your Superman Sequal." You know what, screw this, I am going to do just that.

 

[dark_b]

one ultimate fact: BB was nolans first action and comic book movie. this was singers third. i guess nolan is just a better director. or he is a guy who knows that sometimes you need help.

 

[spider-neil]

SR -
* saving the plane
* man with rail gun
* lifting NK

BB -
* car chase
* high rise train
* various fights

I'm going to be as fair and unbaised as I can.

batman
the fights in batman ARE hard to see, sure they were filmed that way on purpose for a villians point of view but they could have done that with ONE fight sequence and then filmed the other fight sequences normally.

the car chase was FANTASTIC anyone who thought it was dull has no pulse.

the high rise train was a little pointless as there was no real reason to be ON the train, I mean did bats even know RAG was even on the train?

superman
brilliant plain sequence and then quite frankly that was it as far as action.
the mini gun sequence was dull because you KNOW it can't hurt him, and lighting NK into the sky was pretty dull as well.

some people may have been excited by this and may well say 'you have no pulse' but I didn't find the end sequence exciting at all.

to be honest that wouldn't have bothered me if the story in between the action was compelling (like batman) because lets be honest batman was light on action as well but is a fan favorite film.

SM-3 had an compelling story AND absolutely blistering action, the train sequence has got to be the best super hero fight sequence commited to film.

 

[GreenKToo]

I'm a die hard supes fan,But I have to agree,B.B. did have more action.I loved em' both.

There was great action and it was edited that way on purpose, so see how he'd operate and from the perspective his prey.

Boring car chase? that's just.....insane, is the word. I mean, how as it boring? We got to see TONS of destrcution with great music keeping the emotion high.

He took the subway to get to Ra's to stop the destruction of Gotham City.

And.....yeah, there was more action in Begins. Right from the get go, we get violence. I'm not putting SR down, but Batman Begins was more of an action film.

 

[Steelsheen]

the action set pieces are about the same, the main difference is that Bats go mano-a-mano with with his enemies while Supes lifts continents and takes on bullets. the action scenes are appropriate to their resepective power levels.

BB could've edged out a bit if the editing wasnt so choppy. i know that Nolan is trying to get the audience into Bruce's perspective into what he sees when he fights but damn its claustraphobic, it would've helped lots if he backed up a little andallowed the audience to "see" the fight instead of being dragged into it.

 

[dark_b]

SR -
* saving the plane
* man with rail gun
* lifting NK

BB -
* car chase
* high rise train
* various fights

I'm going to be as fair and unbaised as I can.

batman
the fights in batman ARE hard to see, sure they were filmed that way on purpose for a villians point of view but they could have done that with ONE fight sequence and then filmed the other fight sequences normally.

the car chase was FANTASTIC anyone who thought it was dull has no pulse.

the high rise train was a little pointless as there was no real reason to be ON the train, I mean did bats even know RAG was even on the train?

superman
brilliant plain sequence and then quite frankly that was it as far as action.
the mini gun sequence was dull because you KNOW it can't hurt him, and lighting NK into the sky was pretty dull as well.

some people may have been excited by this and may well say 'you have no pulse' but I didn't find the end sequence exciting at all.

to be honest that wouldn't have bothered me if the story in between the action was compelling (like batman) because lets be honest batman was light on action as well but is a fan favorite film.

SM-3 had an compelling story AND absolutely blistering action, the train sequence has got to be the best super hero fight sequence commited to film.

lifting NK is in noooooooooooooooo way an action scene. dream on my friend.

 

[Showtime]

Begins had more action than Returns, but it didn't have alot of action, or great action by any means.

 

[DogofKrypton]

the high rise train was a little pointless as there was no real reason to be ON the train, I mean did bats even know RAG was even on the train?

Ok, I have call into question whether you actually saw the film after this statement? I mean, they clearly show Ras' "ninjas" drop down from the train, and him climb a rope up into it. It was clear as day, and should have been to anyone who saw the film.

 

[GreenKToo]

well,I dont hate singer or anything,but I wouldnt mind a new director for the sequel,while I loved S.R.,I dont think singer can do what we all..(or most)..are wanting for the sequel,.A story,WITH lots of ACTION,and NO Zod.all MHO.

 

[hitmanyr2k]

There was great action and it was edited that way on purpose, so see how he'd operate and from the perspective his prey.

Boring car chase? that's just.....insane, is the word. I mean, how as it boring? We got to see TONS of destrcution with great music keeping the emotion high.

He took the subway to get to Ra's to stop the destruction of Gotham City.

And.....yeah, there was more action in Begins. Right from the get go, we get violence. I'm not putting SR down, but Batman Begins was more of an action film.

I think Superman Returns had just as much (if not more) action as Batman Begins but it just wasn't memorable. Both movies dropped the ball with some very lackluster action sequences.

And Batman's car chase was boring and illogical. It was edited so choppy (like the rest of the action sequences) the entire scene never has a sense of speed. I also found it laughable that they would have Batman drive to the top of a parking garage just so he could use his Knight Rider turbo boost and drive on rooftops. So much for trying to keep a realistic tone.

 

[dark_b]

I think Superman Returns had just as much (if not more) action as Batman Begins but it just wasn't memorable. Both movies dropped the ball with some very lackluster action sequences.

And Batman's car chase was boring and illogical. It was edited so choppy (like the rest of the action sequences) the entire scene never has a sense of speed. I also found it laughable that they would have Batman drive to the top of a parking garage just so he could use his Knight Rider turbo boost and drive on rooftops. So much for trying to keep a realistic tone.

than tell me where did you saw ation in SR? and dont you dare to say the NK throwing scene.

 

[spider-neil]

Ok, I have call into question whether you actually saw the film after this statement? I mean, they clearly show Ras' "ninjas" drop down from the train, and him climb a rope up into it. It was clear as day, and should have been to anyone who saw the film.

okay fair point but it is a while since I saw BB.

 

[spider-neil]

the first I saw BB I thought it was brilliant the way the first fight sequence was chopped together. in the context of this being his first fight and the first time he scares the bad guys it kinda makes sense.

...but c'mon the fight sequences were choppey and hard to see end in the end when he fights the ninja's. he's supposed to be master of all forms of martial arts and I want to SEE him take someone out.

also lifting NK is indeed not an action sequence, so basically SR has the guy with the rail gun and the plane sequence. deary me singer what the **** did the money get spent on?

if SM-2 is a perfect 10 for action (for the sake of argument)
then BB is an 8
SR is a 6

 

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

I'M BACK!!!!!

and i havn't gone mad.. turned into the incredibale Hulk or anything..i'm ashamed of some of you i thought you knew me better.

Anyway..first of..get back on topic..second..its great to be back!!!

 

[Venom71]

I'M BACK!!!!!

and i havn't gone mad.. turned into the incredibale Hulk or anything..i'm ashamed of some of you i thought you knew me better.

Anyway..first of..get back on topic..second..its great to be back!!!

Welcome back my friend

 

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

Welcome back my friend

nice to see some still believe in me..

dissapointed in Morg at the minute..he made an example of me! that sucks..oh well life goes on at the Hype.

 

[Showtime]

I heard you grew a third arm and moved to the Artic to live with seals.

 

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

I heard you grew a third arm and moved to the Artic to live with seals.

I grew a third leg..it had a mind of its own.. we fell out..and it left me.. now i'm Back! my my..things have changed..

but i never left any of you..i was watching..from the darkness..forever in Darkness..a guardian Robo.

 

[hitmanyr2k]

the first I saw BB I thought it was brilliant the way the first fight sequence was chopped together. in the context of this being his first fight and the first time he scares the bad guys it kinda makes sense.

...but c'mon the fight sequences were choppey and hard to see end in the end when he fights the ninja's. he's supposed to be master of all forms of martial arts and I want to SEE him take someone out.

Agreed on that point. I don't mind the scene at the docks when taking out Falcone and his men...I liked the horror elements.

also lifting NK is indeed not an action sequence, so basically SR has the guy with the rail gun and the plane sequence. deary me singer what the **** did the money get spent on?

The lifting of NK is an action sequence...it sure as hell isn't comedy or drama lol. Anytime Superman lifted something in SR it was an action sequence. Even Lex destroying his elaborate model trainset is considered an action sequence since we got a blackout with an earthquake (which can be found in any disaster movie action sequence). Like I said before, Superman Returns had plenty of action but it wasn't memorable. It was standard hack stuff.

if SM-2 is a perfect 10 for action (for the sake of argument)
then BB is an 8
SR is a 6

I think that's too generous for BB and SR's action...

SM2 - 9
BB - 5
SR - 3

And while I'm on the subject....

Spider-man - 6
Superman '78 - 7
Superman II - 7
Batman '89 - 8
The Crow - 7.5
Blade - 9
Blade 2 - 8
X-Men - 4
X2 - 7.5
Daredevil - 5
The Hulk - 6
The Punisher - 5.5
V for Vendetta - 6.5

 

[GreenKToo]

hey,welcome back dude...

nice to see some still believe in me..

dissapointed in Morg at the minute..he made an example of me! that sucks..oh well life goes on at the Hype.

 

[Dark Knight]

the first I saw BB I thought it was brilliant the way the first fight sequence was chopped together. in the context of this being his first fight and the first time he scares the bad guys it kinda makes sense.

...but c'mon the fight sequences were choppey and hard to see end in the end when he fights the ninja's. he's supposed to be master of all forms of martial arts and I want to SEE him take someone out.

also lifting NK is indeed not an action sequence, so basically SR has the guy with the rail gun and the plane sequence. deary me singer what the **** did the money get spent on?

if SM-2 is a perfect 10 for action (for the sake of argument)
then BB is an 8
SR is a 6

BB's fight sequences were easier to see on the DVD thats for sure...

 

[X-Maniac]

SM2 - 9
BB - 5
SR - 3

And while I'm on the subject....

Spider-man - 6
Superman '78 - 7
Superman II - 7
Batman '89 - 8
The Crow - 7.5
Blade - 9
Blade 2 - 8
X-Men - 4
X2 - 7.5
Daredevil - 5
The Hulk - 6
The Punisher - 5.5
V for Vendetta - 6.5

You omitted X3 from that list - I'm assuming you hated it. But it had a lot of action. What marks would you give it?