Superman Returns AICN interview with Singer

[highguard]

come on guys,dont fight please.

No lets (lol, force field on the way)

 

[TrailerCues]

The Hype going down this weekend will be a good thing

 

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

No lets (lol, force field on the way)

Could have quoted a better movie



i'm joking of cause.

 

[ultimatefan]

the numbers speak for themselfs in those polls..its a valid point..the genral Hype people like the film...

Yeah, sites like IMDB and Yahoo Movies and BOM and Rottentomatoes have thousands of people voting on their polls, far from only comics geeks, and if anything you have a lot of movie buffs who´re more rigid than average moviegoers, and the movie gets positive results on all of them. If you made a poll on TV the results would probably be even better.

 

[The Kid]

if you think that i am amking fun of you than you are wrong. we are adults right? i really dont understand why superman was harder to make than BB. i really dont.
i just knwo that a lot of people were having in their heads a good memorry of superman. and i also know that a lot of people were having a bad memory of batman from 1997.

Anticapation for a new superman movie was SUPER, production was in development hell for years so it's been talked about againd and again in the media, ads were everywhere, people were discussing it everywhere, everyone knows smallville in some way so it's still in the public consciousness, for kids and adult kids it he was still around in cartoons like justice league and krypto, so the excuses about marketing and Potc or superman not being popular anymore and needing to garner excitement first with one film and then exploding with the sequel is ironically I think, BS.

 

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

Yeah, sites like IMDB and Yahoo Movies and BOM and Rottentomatoes have thousands of people voting on their polls, far from only comics geeks, and if anything you have a lot of movie buffs who´re more rigid than average moviegoers, and the movie gets positive results on all of them. If you made a poll on TV the results would probably be even better.

i agree.

 

[The Kid]

well your money for those "coasters" will help pay for the sequel..

thanks for your help.

whoa must have hit pretty close to the mark...

Well, I didn't mean I'd buy it and use it as a coaster... Plus I already have Superman III, and IV.

I hope there's a sequel. More Jason.

 

[Metropolis_Man]

Lets forget other avenues and concentrate on the film.

the film has made it money back.. the film will most likely do well on dvd, so he made a film you didn't like..it doesn't make him the anti christ..some of you are acting like children in a playground.

I agree with you ROBO. I haven't been on here lately because of all the constant bickering about the movie. It seems that people can't handle others opinions, on both sides of the spectrum. Superman Returns didn't do nearly as well in the theatres as most assumed it would. I think we can all agree to that. It still made quite a good profit, but not what was expected of it. Superman has plenty other mediums to keep his franchise going, and I agree with the AICN article in where it says that now is the time to keep the movie franchise going. Returns wasn't the hit we were waiting for, but that gives the sequel a chance to be that movie. Learn from the mistakes before, and build a better foundation and go from there.

 

[GreenKToo]

Well despite if you like S.R. or hate it,its looking like a sequel is very likely.

 

[Lighthouse]

Looks like Superman Returns will be getting a sequel with Bryan at the helm. Can't say I'm really to excited about this. SR just left me very cold. I'll definately see the next one when it comes out, but to be honest I don't really care to follow its development at all. Oh well.

 

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

whoa must have hit pretty close to the mark...

Well, I didn't mean I'd buy it and use it as a coaster... Plus I already have Superman III, and IV.

I hope there's a sequel. More Jason.

I was joking..i really should use my own advice and use one of these

 

[GreenKToo]

well,to be honest another director would be o.k. with me,but i'll see what he has planned for us..

Looks like Superman Returns will be getting a sequel with Bryan at the helm. Can't say I'm really to excited about this. SR just left me very cold. I'll definately see the next one when it comes out, but to be honest I don't really care to follow its development at all. Oh well.

 

[Pickle-El]

Singer is such an egomaniac. He can't even accept the fact that he gave us a horrible story, and he's trying to put the blame on Superman's lack of success on the sequel of POTC 2.

Singer seriously needs psychiatric help. He needs medication to deal with what is fast becoming an out of control emotional disorder with his egomania. A person in that condition needs to be institutionalized before he hurts himself more or someone else.

What the hell is wrong with you?

(if you don't mind me asking?)

 

[DogofKrypton]

First of all, I won´t debate any longer if we keep using terms like "haters" and "apologists". Someone defending the movie doesn´t make him an "apologist" and someone criticizing it doesn´t make him a "hater". It´s just people with different opínions. These labels only serve to turn this into flame wars. Second, the polls, added to the fact the movie has dropped less than 50% almost every post-opening weekend are indication that the general response is positive, and so will be strong DVD sales.

Read your OWN post before you throw around others "labeling" people. You yourself said "the complainers". THAT is a label. Just because someone dislikes this film, and rightfully so, and states it DOESN'T make them a "complainer".

And just like before the movie came out when people were expecting "record breaking BO numbers", don't attempt to predict strong DVD sales. Didn't work the first time, did it?

 

[Kabuki_Jo]

dude zod. not brainiac. zod. he is the next villian.

brainiac is to anti-donnerish.

Hahahahaha...you're right.
scroll down and you'll see where they mention Brainiac.

Robocop,
it's useless to fight it, man.
SR sucks and mainly because of Singer and his pack of ****** writers.
Period.

 

[GreenKToo]

It didnt suck,it wasnt the greatest,but it was far removed from sucking.

 

[Bad Superman]

There are two things that really bothered me about Singer:

BRYAN SINGER: Well, there's great affection for the picture and I feel... You know, it comes in all different ways. Sometimes it comes with the domestic box office, sometimes it comes in the international box office. Sometimes it comes in letters from your idols who have never written to you before and from their families. Sometimes it comes from coming down here and having a few people say, "Why didn't you do this?" and a few people who say, "Thank you so much." I can only make a movie I think someone will watch 10 years or 20 years from now and say, "Oh, I'm affected by it!" Or a movie that maybe a woman who doesn't come to these kinds of movies will actually watch and get choked up about. That's kind of the idea here.

Superman Returns was a good movie, but not on that level. That's going overboard.

BRYAN SINGER: Well, that was the key. That was the key. I had to introduce this guy and if that didn't work... And sometimes it takes a certain kind of movie. And by the way, in terms of people's perceptions on domestic box office, this is going up in the face of PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN, a sequel, but secondly... the last time a SUPERMAN movie was out was a long time ago and its cumulative domestic gross was $15 million.

Here are two interesting points. As soon as word got out that WB was pushing up the release of POTC2 this was an indication that there were concerns on how SR would fare and WB wanted to make sure they would at least break even or have a moderate gain since they knew POTC2 would hit big numbers. I think they knew the film would just be a moderate success using as an indicator the mixed reception to the suit, the story (too similar to Donner's) and the public's reaction to the changes in the main characters (Lois having a kid out of wedlock, etc.which was leaked early during production.)

Secondly, it really upset me how Singer compared SR's earnings to Superman IV's. We all know Superman IV's story wasn't that good while Singer's SR had many elements from Donner's (Succesful). I think it isn't fair to compare them, specially in the box office earnings which we also have to take into consideration inflation. Earnings for S IV in current domestic dollars would be around $43 million (not the unadjusted $15 million). If he wants to compare with Donner's, adjusting inflation, it made $367,092,000 domestically.

(Numbers from Box Office Mojo)

 

[highguard]

It´s not "people" who don´t like this movie, it´s mostly Internet fanboys who whine about not seeing Darkseid or whatever. Singer is right when he says the average moviegoer feedback is positive, every poll outside comics-oriented sites is positive on the movie. Anad 200m domestically or even close for ANY movie, particularly in this year, is far from being a terrible result, even if it´s not what the studio was hoping for.

Not to rain on your parade, but saying superman did poorly because of the downturn this year is not quite accurate. The BO is up this year according to Paul Dergarabedian of Exhibitor relations:

"Overall, box office revenue for the top dozen films was up 17 percent over the same week last year, said Paul Dergarabedian, president of Exhibitor Relations Co. Inc., which tracks box office performance."Hollywood's on a roll. Last year at this time it was all gloom and doom. Eighteen of the past 20 weekends have been up over last year. This is a terrific summer," Dergarabedian said.
"
Source

http://www.lansingstatejournal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060807/THINGS0107/608080301

I liked the movie but it was not comparable to Superman:The Movie.

It is a disservice when posters knowingly or otherwise offer uninformed opinions as to why it did poorly AND STATING THOSE REASONS AS FACT WHEN THEY ARE NOT.

Superman will get its money back I believe and there will be a sequel and I actually hope Singer gets to improve on what he did, but he has a style that may not be a perfect fit with summer superhero movies. I felt the same way with his Xmen movies, especially after seeing Ratner's efforts given the kind of prep time and shooting and post production schedule he has to work with.

However if like some, Singer can't adapt his style to the character as opposed to superimposing HIS SAME STYLE on all his movies I think some hard decisions may have to be made.

Finally I think Superman could have been bigger than Spiderman but on many levels people dropped the ball. Now Singer is not the only one at fault because the relatively weak opening week speaks to the hype sapping scheduling of that movie next to POTC2.

However it is always sad to see the quarterback criticizing his wide reciever when they fail to connect.

They say Wisdom cries in the streets, well Brian I hope you can hear it.

 

[spider-neil]

'IF' there is a sequel you can bet the SECOND WB green light it singer will announce ZOD count on it.

'I'm going to go wrath of khan'

if you want to see doomsday or darkseid then PRAY singer doesn't get the sequel he probably doesn't even know who those characters are.

brian 'what the heck is lex corp?' singer

 

[DogofKrypton]

However it is always sad to see the quarterback criticizing his wide reciever when they fail to connect.

Hey now, don't go stealing "my" football references. The thread got toasted, but I had a BEAUTY of an analogy linking BS, WB and football. I should have saved it, it was a thing of beauty....

 

[ultimatefan]

Not to rain on your parade, but saying superman did poorly because of the downturn this year is not quite accurate. The BO is up this year according to Paul Dergarabedian of Exhibitor relations:

"Overall, box office revenue for the top dozen films was up 17 percent over the same week last year, said Paul Dergarabedian, president of Exhibitor Relations Co. Inc., which tracks box office performance."Hollywood's on a roll. Last year at this time it was all gloom and doom. Eighteen of the past 20 weekends have been up over last year. This is a terrific summer," Dergarabedian said.
"
Source

http://www.lansingstatejournal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060807/THINGS0107/608080301

I liked the movie but it was not comparable to Superman:The Movie.

It is a disservice when posters knowingly or otherwise offer uninformed opinions as to why it did poorly AND STATING THOSE REASONS AS FACT WHEN THEY ARE NOT.

Superman will get its money back I believe and there will be a sequel and I actually hope Singer gets to improve on what he did, but he has a style that may not be a perfect fit with summer superhero movies. I felt the same way with his Xmen movies, especially after seeing Ratner's efforts given the kind of prep time and shooting and post production schedule he has to work with.

However if like some, Singer can't adapt his style to the character as opposed to superimposing HIS SAME STYLE on all his movies I think some hard decisions may have to be made.

Finally I think Superman could have been bigger than Spiderman but on many levels people dropped the ball. Now Singer is not the only one at fault because the relatively weak opening week speaks to the hype sapping scheduling of that movie next to POTC2.

However it is always sad to see the quarterback criticizing his wide reciever when they fail to connect.

They say Wisdom cries in the streets, well Brian I hope you can hear it.

A Scott Holleran article on BOM demystified those numbers. The general BO increased because of the increase of new releases, but the BO per movie is smaller.

 

[highguard]

Could have quoted a better movie



i'm joking of cause.

^^ Lol, and a good joke it was, and greatly needed in the cruel world that the boards have become.

 

[buggs0268]

matt,

WB cares how many lunchboxes, backpacks, TV and Cartoon DVDs, and cereal the film sells. That all goes to the Superman brand/franchise pot. That's not chump change.

Again, I would agree if theatrical box office was the only measure. But, we all know it isn't. With the upcoming DVD and Chris Reeve boxset and TV rights, it'll get in the black.

It would've been nice if it got in the black solely on theatrical receipts but most films today have a hard time doing that. It takes a bit more now...especially with franchises. There are exceptions to the rule...but Superman isn't one of them at the moment.

If they did the same would apply to Warner's caring about Batman and Robin. that stupid movie's toys sold like 95 million, or some reiculous number, before the film opened. And yet the film did bad and Warner's not only canned it, but Superman lives. And Warner's has stated during Batman Begins production that 'lunch boxes and toys aren't everything and they now realize their mistake. And the toys for this movie is not flying off the shelf at all. So the fact is that even though tie in's are gold to them, they realize that with a bad film a sequels tie in's wont do as well. And the tie ins for this are not flying off the shelf anyway. Toys are doign bad. STupid tie in music album is not selling.

 

[highguard]

A Scott Holleran article on BOM demystified those numbers. The general BO increased because of the increase of new releases, but the BO per movie is smaller.

^^ If that is true then that is a very good point bud.

 

[Bad Superman]

Why the heck was Robo put on Prob Ban?