Superman Returns AICN interview with Singer

[ultimatefan]

If they did the same would apply to Warner's caring about Batman and Robin. that stupid movie's toys sold like 95 million before the film opened. And yet the film did bad and Warner's not only canned it, but Superman lives. And Warner's has stated during Batman Begins production that 'lunch boxes and toys aren't everything and they now realize their mistake. And the toys for this movie is not flying off the shelf at all.

But the problem with B&R is, the movie sank like a rock week after week after the opening, so it was too risky to make a sequel on a movie that had so much rejection. SR didn´t have nearly as much rejection.

 

[ultimatefan]

^^ If that is true then that is a very good point bud.

Yeah, look at last year, that was considered so bad, it still had nine movies that made over 200m at the domestic BO, and four that made over 250m. This year, so far, we had only four movies that made over 200m, one that´s close to it, and only one that made over 250m. And there aren´t any more releases that look strong enough to pull numbers like these - unless Taladega Night has a really good hold.

 

[Morg]

Why the heck was Robo put on Prob Ban?

Because I'm getting tired of you peeps bypassing censors, been seeing alot of past few months. You don't need using vulgar language to debate

 

[GreenKToo]

We were extremely lucky that they ever made another Batman ,or Superman film after that mess of a movie.

But the problem with B&R is, the movie sank like a rock week after week after the opening, so it was too risky to make a sequel on a movie that had so much rejection. SR didn´t have nearly as much rejection.

 

[Morg]

BTW ultimatefan, your sig a bit long shorten it please

 

[Pickle-El]

Yeah, look at last year, that was considered so bad, it still had nine movies that made over 200m at the domestic BO, and four that made over 250m. This year, so far, we had only four movies that made over 200m, one that´s close to it, and only one that made over 250m. And there aren´t any more releases that look strong enough to pull numbers like these - there were

If not for POTC2, this would have been far worse than last year in the overall Box Office.

 

[Bad Superman]

Because I'm getting tired of you peeps bypassing censors, been seeing alot of past few months. You don't need using vulgar language to debate

Got it.

 

[ultimatefan]

BTW ultimatefan, your sig a bit long shorten it please

Oh, okay.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Okay, so I learned a few things:

Superman Returns disappointing gross is good because there is a downturn at the boxoffice. It doesn't matter that it cost 204mil to make and might not even crack 200mil and the 100mil worldwide advertising budget, for get about it!

Superman Returns is this years Hulk dispite the fact it's legs aren't nearly as bad.

Superman Returns toy sales and lame overseas boxoffice make it a huge success at the boxoffice.

Got it!

 

[Kabuki_Jo]

And DVD sales

With NO extended edition or Krypton scenes in it, as stated by Singer.

 

[ultimatefan]

Okay, so I learned a few things:

Superman Returns disappointing gross is good because there is a downturn at the boxoffice. It doesn't matter that it cost 204mil to make and might not even crack 200mil and the 100 worldwide advertising budget, for get about it!

Superman Returns is this years Hulk dispite the fact it's legs aren't nearly as bad.

Superman Returns toy sales and lame overseas boxoffice make it a huge success at the boxoffice.

Got it!

I think THAT´S the biggest problem... It´s not a movie you can easily categorize as a huge hit or a huge flop. You can twist the numbers in many directions, and in the end we never really know exactly how much these movies cost or make, cuz much of the cost and revenue doesn´t become public.

 

[buggs0268]

Singerrrr!!!! Stay the hell away from Jaws!!!! In all reality I think there are certain films that Hollywood should make a law that they cant remake them. Jaws is one. Ferris Buellers Day Off is another one. There are more.

 

[GreenKToo]

While 146 mill overseas is not great,its not the final number yet either.Its yet to open in 3 BIG markets.I'll wait and see how it does after it opens in those markets before I say its a failure internationally.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I think THAT´S the biggest problem... It´s not a movie you can easily categorize as a huge hit or a huge flop. You can twist the numbers in many directions, and in the end we never really know exactly how much these movies cost or make, cuz much of the cost and revenue doesn´t become public.

Eh, I don't think so. There is something called facts:

Fact: POTC2 is a huge massave hit at the boxoffice. No one can argue against that without looking like a fool.

Fact: Superman Returns is a huge boxoffice disapponitment because it's not going to make back its budget.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

While 146 mill overseas is not great,its not the final number yet either.Its yet to open in 3 BIG markets.I'll wait and see how it does after it opens in those markets before I say its a failure internationally.

Didn't call it a failure internationally. I just said that the numbers were lame and the few markets it has yet to be released in won't change that fact.

 

[LastSunrise1981]

Know what I find absolutely hysterical? Half of the posters were worshipping Singer for what he did with X1, X2, and that he concentrates on character development rather than wall to wall action.

Then when the movie didn't meet their standards, they want to get on the Anti-Singer bandwagon in order to look "cool".

There's a reason why internet fanboys aren't film directors. Simply because the majority of them would make the dumbest film possible, as they'd try to include everything about the comics, also they would try to add the campy one liners and a lot of the colorful effects.

Could it work? Possibly. But Superman isn't Batman, Spider-Man, Sin City, or even X-Men. Superman has always been somewhat of a dark/light hearted story about an alien living among humanity and fighting evil.

I wish Singer hadn't gone with the "Vague History" idea. But hey, nothing can be done about it now, so you either love it or you don't, and quite frankly I enjoyed Superman Returns a lot more than Brett Ratner's X-Men 3 which appears to cater more towards the non-stop action loving crowd.

 

[ultimatefan]

Eh, I don't think so. There is something called facts:

Fact: POTC2 is a huge massave hit at the boxoffice. No one can argue against that without looking like a fool.

Fact: Superman Returns is a huge boxoffice disapponitment because it's not going to make back its budget.

But it´s also a fact that the vast majority of movies released each year don´t make even close to 200m, and that SR is gonna make money for the studio regardless of that fact.

 

[DogofKrypton]

There's a reason why internet fanboys aren't film directors. Simply because the majority of them would make the dumbest film possible, as they'd try to include everything about the comics, also they would try to add the campy one liners and a lot of the colorful effects.

Could it work? Possibly. But Superman isn't Batman, Spider-Man, Sin City, or even X-Men. Superman has always been somewhat of a dark/light hearted story about an alien living among humanity and fighting evil.

Um, how is that different than letting someone who takes joy in stating "I didn't read comic books" direct? They end up taking the FUN out of the character, which BS definitely did. Why do the people who claim enjoyment of this film think and post as if they are "better" than the people who don't?

And you got it exactly right with the last part. Superman should not be as dark and depressing as Sin City or Batman. But BS made sure he was, law-breaking, creepiness and all.

 

[GreenKToo]

Oh, I know,I'm sorry if it came out wrong.I actually think it may hit close to 200 mill internationally.I could be wrong,but I could be right to.

Didn't call it a failure international. I just said that the numbers were lame and the few markets it has yet to be released in won't change that fact.

 

[ultimatefan]

Know what I find absolutely hysterical? Half of the posters were worshipping Singer for what he did with X1, X2, and that he concentrates on character development rather than wall to wall action.

Then when the movie didn't meet their standards, they want to get on the Anti-Singer bandwagon in order to look "cool".

There's a reason why internet fanboys aren't film directors. Simply because the majority of them would make the dumbest film possible, as they'd try to include everything about the comics, also they would try to add the campy one liners and a lot of the colorful effects.

Could it work? Possibly. But Superman isn't Batman, Spider-Man, Sin City, or even X-Men. Superman has always been somewhat of a dark/light hearted story about an alien living among humanity and fighting evil.

I wish Singer hadn't gone with the "Vague History" idea. But hey, nothing can be done about it now, so you either love it or you don't, and quite frankly I enjoyed Superman Returns a lot more than Brett Ratner's X-Men 3 which appears to cater more towards the non-stop action loving crowd.

Yeah, i found it funny Singer emphasizing character over action was considered a good thing in the X-Men movies but not for SR...

 

[Kabuki_Jo]

Didn't call it a failure international. I just said that the numbers were lame and the few markets it has yet to be released in won't change that fact.

Right on.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Yeah, i found it funny Singer emphasizing character over action was considered a good thing in the X-Men movies but not for SR...

I'm proud to say that I almost never really cared for the X-films as much as alot of people on here, and really felt that Singer ruined the movies.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

But it´s also a fact that the vast majority of movies released each year don´t make even close to 200m, and that SR is gonna make money for the studio regardless of that fact.

None of what you said matters because none of it changes the movies failure. I'm not just trying to bash SR. (might be trying to bash Singer though, I hate what he did to the X-Men) I look at the boxoffice numbers for what they are, not wishes and hopes on the numbers.

 

[ultimatefan]

None of what you said matters because none of it changes the movies failure. I'm not just trying to bash SR. (might be trying to bash Singer though, I hate what he did to the X-Men) I look at the boxoffice numbers for what they are, not wishes and hopes on the numbers.

But a movie that makes close to 200m in USA and is gonna make lotsa money in the end can´t be called a big time flop, that´s a fact. That[s what I´m saying, the number isn´t so high you can easily categorize it as a huge hit, nor so low you can call it an allout bomb. Disappointing, yeah, fine, but this is basically a summer of disappointments.

 

[boywonder13]

with all of these Reports saying that Zod is in, it seems like a big possibility....

There is no doubt the sequel will make more in Box Office returns but it might piss of fans and peoples of this very board.