Superman Returns AICN interview with Singer

[Showtime]

Did I see that Robo got banned?

 

[dark_b]

I am not supposed to show my fear DB so I wouldn't call myself scared, but kind of shocked if this is nothing more than a rumor.

Zod was fantastic in Superman 2 and could have fit in the storyline for Returns, but now I don't know where he would fit in?

i think this is a rumor because of two things:
1. jude law already said that he doesnt want to be zod. it would not make sense that now he wants to play zod
2. singer already wanted zod in SR. if he wants him now in teh sequel than this means that he is obssesed with zod and that he can not make something new. this will also show us that he makes superman movies only for himself. no superman fan wants to see zod again. everyone wants something new in sequels.

how would it looks if norman osborn would be the main bad guy in spiderman 3 ?

 

[Showtime]

Zod is definately not my first choice for the sequel. Definately not.

I would rather see Metallo, Brianiac, or Bizarro in no particular order.

 

[hitmanyr2k]

The Hulk was in a similiar situation. Made crap Box Office returns but was big with Toys & DVDs & all of that stuf & 3 years later even THAT is getting a Sequel regardless of the first ones poor Box Office & it has alot of hate like Superman Returns is getting

That's not a good comparison. Is Ang Lee back? Are any of the original cast coming back? I wouldn't even call it a sequel...more like a reboot.

 

[explode7]

i think this is a rumor because of two things:
1. jude law already said that he doesnt want to be zod. it would not make sense that now he wants to play zod
2. singer already wanted zod in SR. if he wants him now in teh sequel than this means that he is obssesed with zod and that he can not make something new. this will also show us that he makes superman movies only for himself. no superman fan wants to see zod again. everyone wants something new in sequels.

how would it looks if norman osborn would be the main bad guy in spiderman 3 ?

I'm glad you guys are finally seeing the light. Took you long enough.

 

[dark_b]

I'm glad you guys are finally seeing the light. Took you long enough.

ha and ha

 

[Showtime]

Not sure what you mean by seeing the light. I am not fond of the Zod rumors?

 

[Lestat74]

If they did the same would apply to Warner's caring about Batman and Robin. that stupid movie's toys sold like 95 million, or some reiculous number, before the film opened. And yet the film did bad and Warner's not only canned it, but Superman lives. And Warner's has stated during Batman Begins production that 'lunch boxes and toys aren't everything and they now realize their mistake. And the toys for this movie is not flying off the shelf at all. So the fact is that even though tie in's are gold to them, they realize that with a bad film a sequels tie in's wont do as well. And the tie ins for this are not flying off the shelf anyway. Toys are doign bad. STupid tie in music album is not selling.

The difference between Batman & Robin and SR is public perception...Batman & robin was critically reamed, everyone hated it and compared it to things like Showgirls. To this day, it almost always makes Top Ten Worst Movies lists. Now look at SR...aside from fanboy sites like this one, the critics really liked SR. And not just hack critics, I mean critics from TIME, Newsweek, USA Today, The Wall Street Journal, Premiere, Variety, The Hollywood Reporter...the list goes on. Hell, even Newsweek went as far as to say "Next to Singer's champagne, most recent superhero adventure movies are barely sparkling cider." This is not faint praise. Batman & Robin was a laughing stock from day one. SR will end up with just below $200 million. Surely it's far below their ( and our ) inflated expectations, but at the end of the day that means that they sold a lot of tickets. It will end up with similar numbers to Batman Begins, and yet that movie gets off the hook becasue not only did the critics like it, but fanboys online did too. This reeks of double standard. And please don't say "but SR Cost more!" I'm talking about tickets sold, not in relation to cost...BB will have grossed more domestic, but not by that much.

 

[Steelsheen]

Its hard to say.If you read this,it sounds like Brainiac.
http://nitti.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=23943

there's an mp3 of the SDCC Singer-Donner interview over at BTN. if you listen to it, an alien Supervillain is most likely, but who that is the biggest question.

someone yelled "Zod" and there are audible cheeres when i asked those who actually attended the con they said that the cheers came from a few people only, there was more who just kept quiet.

 

[Thunder Emperor]

Singer is a an unoriginal fool, the man can talk all he wants. but since the movie has not been greenlight, he can shut his mouth.

 

[CapBeerCino]

I have a feeling that better B.O numbers would make a lot of people stop their b****ing.

The review thread has majority of 10-8 grades and general audience/ critics didn't seem to have a problem with SR.

Here's to show you how money talks. I bet that if SM3 or the dark knight won't do well B.O wise then Nolan/ Raimi are the next to get bashed endlessly.

 

[The Kid]

I have a feeling that better B.O numbers would make a lot of people stop their b****ing.

The review thread has majority of 10-8 grades and general audience/ critics didn't seem to have a problem with SR.

Here's to show you how money talks. I bet that if SM3 or the dark knight won't do well B.O wise then Nolan/ Raimi are the next to get bashed endlessly.

Hmmm...I see, a feeling, it's emotional... some use it as statistics, like ratings in review threads for a way of determining the quality of a movie on this non-existent empirical scale... Well lol, for me I wouldn't say I bash singer, he's still cool, but I do feel in my mind he's not doing the best he can for my fav character.

And those other guys will get 'bashed' by me if and Only if their movies aren't very good. I could care less how much the movie makes. why should I unless I dug the movie and want a sequel...Yes, it's true. The scare tactic is completely valid. No one is safe from the bashers or any other label to group people under. They have to earn their respect. IMO of course.

I hated Spider-man back when it came out. I thought Raimi's not a good director and he should be replaced. That movie made a bazillion dollars didn't it? Therefore I believe people do have the ability to judge a film based on the film itself rather than its numbers.

 

[Captain Kirk]

Singer is a an unoriginal fool, the man can talk all he wants. but since the movie has not been greenlight, he can shut his mouth.

That's pretty lame to call the man a fool over a movie.

 

[X-Maniac]

I have a feeling that better B.O numbers would make a lot of people stop their b****ing.

The review thread has majority of 10-8 grades and general audience/ critics didn't seem to have a problem with SR.

Here's to show you how money talks. I bet that if SM3 or the dark knight won't do well B.O wise then Nolan/ Raimi are the next to get bashed endlessly.

That's nonsense. People like or loathe a movie based on their own opinion and tastes. Some use box office to attempt to illustrate that their opinion is shared by others. I didn't like SR and, to me, the disappointing box office shows that there was something amiss with this movie. Not just bad timing, but the 'rehash' approach in particular (and some weak trailers). I mean 'disappointing box office' in the sense of compared with predictions/expectations and compared with the cost of the movie and the return generated. The trailers were, as some might say, 'meh' or 'bleh' - they didn't make you want to leap from your chair and get in line for a ticket. However, if the trailers had focused on the big action scenes, that might have been a real con considering the amount of reflective, understated non-action in the movie. So perhaps the trailers were accurate.

Most of the pompous Singer 'defenders' have had to crawl away in shame because they kept going on and on and on and on about SR being the movie that would prove X3/Ratner/Fox was crap, that would show the world how superhero movies should be done, that would ignite the world with box office records, that would be the next Titanic.... and this didn't happen.

What SR does have is a careful crafting of the 'settings' of the movie (the Daily Planet, New Krypton etc) but careful crafting of production designs does not make a good movie, especially when those production designs are very gloomy, dark, sombre and (in the literal sense) dull and lacking sparkle or magic. The magical Fortress reduced to a soulless void, New Krypton created as jagged black crags, the Superman suit itself toned down and muted. All lifeless and lacking lustre. As with the characters. It was like a film made by someone who is clinically depressed.

 

[Thunder Emperor]

That's pretty lame to call the man a fool over a movie.

i call him a fool , becasue he comes off egotistical and can;t see his stupid mistakes in the film. WB can have singer again and the box office returns will be just as much. which is at the level of lame at the moment.

 

[The Kid]

That's pretty lame to call the man a fool over a movie.

.... -_- true...

though I offer no sympathy to singer. Nothing to do with the film, not mainly. But it's us. Last year... long before the DosV group (that was new when I came back).... Look I think we made a mistake. the whole DosV and the GSAC, all it did was put Singer high on some royal throne with a little sexy crown on his head and it must have been annoying to some that me and my band of brothers were going around praising singer before we saw his film, bashing anyone who wasn't on our side. I admit that before I learned of the Kid, I thought singer sucked, (figuratively, Lee ha ha). But news of a superkid just turned everything around for me. But no, he dug his grave and although it's wrong, I have some deeply seeded reasons for not feeling too sympathetic towards singer anymore though I still like X2 and view him as a competent and skilled director better than brett ratner.

 

[GreenKToo]

I'll say it like this.I love Superman,but I feel like the next film needs a new direction,nothing against singer,I just dont feel like he can do what it seems most want for the sequel.If he can show us what he's got in mind for it,and we all like it,then I'll,and prolly alot of others will give him another chance.Till then I just dont know.I guess I'm saying i'm on the fence.

 

[Matt]

Wow, what an incredibly soft ball interview from Quint. And they wonder why no one respects AICN.

 

[Showtime]

What did you expect, Hardball or Crossfire. He has an agenda.

 

[Lighthouse]

Wow, what an incredibly soft ball interview from Quint. And they wonder why no one respects AICN.

The only articles I like to read over there are from Moriarty. He seems to at least be the most credible.

 

[WTFwuzThT]

Singer's not coming back. This reads more like a plea to keep his job than it does a guy that has a chance to do a sequel. WB will not give this idiot more money to do yet another under performing Superman movie. He better start looking in the papers tomorrow.

 

[Matt]

The only articles I like to read over there are from Moriarty. He seems to at least be the most credible.

I agree, Moriarty isn't bad. The rest of AICN sucks. Especially Knowles.

 

[Matt]

What did you expect, Hardball or Crossfire. He has an agenda.

If I had the chance to interview the director of a 260 million dollar movie of the biggest American icon that underperformed in a big way, I would ask some tough questions...if for no other reason to further my career as a journalist. Look what it did for Katie Couric when she tore Bush Sr. a new one.

 

[FanboyX_Returns]

i think this is a rumor because of two things:
1. jude law already said that he doesnt want to be zod. it would not make sense that now he wants to play zod
2. singer already wanted zod in SR. if he wants him now in teh sequel than this means that he is obssesed with zod and that he can not make something new. this will also show us that he makes superman movies only for himself. no superman fan wants to see zod again. everyone wants something new in sequels.

how would it looks if norman osborn would be the main bad guy in spiderman 3 ?

well he made a vague history sequel to the first two movies but in a way that looks like he was just remaking the original 2 films, and just adding a few changes... If he brings on ZOD in part 2 then YEP he's pretty much just bittin what Donner did.
It's almost like he's doing this so that he could make endless amounts of Superman movies, and do what Donner didnt get a chance to do.
He looks like he if this movie were actually a hit he would have been making Superman movie well until he got tired of them.
Much how like Sam Raimi is doing with Spiderman, and he's already signed for 3 more but ofcourse there always escape clause in hollywood contracts.
Just like how the WB has ways out of using this cast, and director for future movies.. They can cann this movie, and start over, and nobody can say nothing... Really... That what they should do.
Either way... Singer is VERY unoriginal!

 

[The Kid]

Singer is a lot of things and finally I think we see it. He and everyone on this board except a few I know, got cocky, including myself before this film came out. We were ready, baby. We were saying it'd dominate spider-man at least with some relative ease. then When pirates looted returns, Singer was literally lost for words.

why I think this is is because he was as much expectant as most were that his movie would explode instantly because it's superman... a new film after nearly two decades. And His x-men movie needing time to draw excitement excuse from the interview made me dizzy. It's in your own movie, dude. "He's superman. Everybody loves him." So you've got INSTANT BRANDNAME RECOGNITION. How many filmmakers would sell their wives for that on their movies? Someone said you could ask the pope who superman was and he'd know. So I'm tired of "it's the marketing, it's pirates, it's been a long time since the last (didn't stop star wars, which I'd say is probably on par as far as brand name recog goes) excuses myself and just wish he'd say "well maybe I didn't do the best I could." That takes balls, man to show humility like that. I'll be ballsy enough to say I did something wrong if I delivered a mediocre film under a crazy huge budget. I have it in me to call it more than mediocre but I being generous tonight.

Once again look into the movie itself for reasons why it's plodding along to 200mil. Should have had that after the first week or so with ease. It's not some mystic force or bad luck, it's a tired worn out, rehash of a film coming to theaters in the age of harry potter, incredibles, spider-man, the matrix, pirates, and star wars prequels. You decided to recycle donner's 70s vision to the wrong audience, pal.

These movies, hell the comics they're based on, to me anyway never seemed like stories made to hopefully be viewed in a few decades as emotionally affecting. Ask Ang Lee about that. Audiences to me seem to like balance between the psychological study of the character and crazy action that just blows your pants off. You handled neither very well imo so good luck hoping someone is affected decades from now. The kid affected me but the rest I thought was a sucky waste of money.

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