Alan Moore's thoughts on Heroes

[Jack O Lantern]

Heroes is set in a world where people have powers. Last time I checked..."our world" didn't have men flying or guys that would explode. Peter/Ted's power may not be exactly like an atomic bomb so to say it would react the same way is asanine when relating it to actual circumstances and critiquing it when your work is fiction as well. If they launched an atomic bomb into the air then I would see his point but they didn't so he has no right to bash it when his **** is crazier.

No, it's not our world it's "our world." Which are two different things.

The premise of Heros is "What if heros started showing up in the real world?" So when you establish that game plan the rules of the world are defined by ours. So with the exception of people running around with powers, the other rules of our world have to apply.

In Watchemn that is not the case. It's an entirely different world, where anything can happen.

 

[chaseter]

No, it's not our world it's "our world." Which are two different things.

The premise of Heros is "What if heros started showing up in the real world?" So when you establish that game plan the rules of the world are defined by ours. So with the exception of people running around with powers, the other rules of our world have to apply.

In Watchemn that is not the case. It's an entirely different world, where anything can happen.

And the premise of Watchmen was what if superheroes existed and how it might change history as we know it Your point is invalid.

 

[neemer5]

Someone needs to tell this guy that Heroes is science FICTION, and as such, things needs to be asked of the viewers. There are other problems with the show, but that is the least of them.

 

[DarkSuperman]

Who are we to say how biologically generated radiation would react? Perhaps its not the same as an atomic bomb.

 

[Sawyer]

I love how there are a few people here saying things like "who cares what Alan Moore thinks" yet if Alan Moore came right out and said he loved Heroes they would be flipping their **** and being like "ZOMFG, Alan Moore loves Heroes!!!!"

 

[chaseter]

I love some of his work but Alan Moore has no right to critique something based on realism It is like that really flamboyant black guy on Top Model critiquing girls on their looks and fashion

 

[Gilpesh]

I love how there are a few people here saying things like "who cares what Alan Moore thinks" yet if Alan Moore came right out and said he loved Heroes they would be flipping their **** and being like "ZOMFG, Alan Moore loves Heroes!!!!"

See: My reaction to him loving Burn Notice.

 

[Artistsean]

Everyone is entitled to an opinion, and its true that he is a popular writer and thats why he was asked about Heroes. And He is allowed to not like it, thats fine. Its his reasoning for not liking it, and the way he put it, that make me upset.

If you can see the explosion it doesn't matter how far away it is from you, the radiation would still effect you.
I already knew that when I saw Heroes and when I saw it in other films like Iron Giant,
And it didn't bother me,
in Heroes or Iron Giant.
I thought it was a great and climactic ending.

I still want to hear what he thinks about the Simpsons.

 

[fu manchu]

I bet Fuller, Kring, Damon, Carlton and everyone else writing for Lost and Heroes want to punch that man

idk, I think Kring would rather hire him to write an an episode or two....

 

[GL1]

He's not saying they weren't realistic. He's saying they didn't do their homework. And he's right, period. It's one thing to explain powers, of any kind, its another thing to write that you "save the world" by bringing something much worse about and forgetting it's much worse. It's comparable to having a doctor pull out a 9mm and shoot their patient in the chest saying "cancer fixed" in a medical drama. (Not too far out there for House, btw). You can say suspension of disbelief, but the climactic moment of a season is THE big deal, not a minor detail, and when they get it as wrong as Heroes did, and we all knew the finale didn't have as much work or budget as, say, Company Man... it deserves to be lampshaded. Especially by a guy who didn't bother to comment on the flagrant similarities in plot between Heroes and his own masterpiece.

 

[The Apocalypse]

Alan Moore has no room to talk about realism when his most famous creation is a naked blue man that had god like powers from a botched science experiment who can somehow breathe in space and teleport.

Alan Moore-Overrated, it's all relative.

Also, he had thoughts on Lost? What were they?

 

[SatEL]

"I saw the last episode of Season One where the flying superhero [Peter Petrelli] and his brother, the exploding superhero [Nathan Petrelli], have a little moment and a bit of a hug and then the flying guy takes the exploding guy up into the atmosphere above New York where he undergoes a nuclear explosion to the great relief of all the spectators. You know, again, it wouldn't have taken much. All you'd have had to do, as I understand it, and I speak as somebody who doesn't actually have an Internet connection and has very little idea what an Internet connection is, but I understand there is this thing called 'Google' and that apparently you just have to put a couple of words into it and magically it will provide all your reference for you. You don't even have to get up out of your seat. If you'd have just put, 'nuclear explosion,' say, into Google then I'm sure that somewhere in that it would have explained that an air burst is much, much, much, much, much, much worse than a ground burst. I hope that if that unlikely situation should ever come about, I hope that the superpowered beings who will presumably be around to save us from it are perhaps a bit more intelligent, otherwise we're doomed. So no, I'm not a big fan of 'Heroes,' got to say."
http://www.wizarduniverse.com/012809alanmooretv.html

ROFLMAO Moore ****ing rocks.

 

[SatEL]

Alan Moore has no room to talk about realism when his most famous creation is a naked blue man that had god like powers from a botched science experiment who can somehow breathe in space and teleport.

You noob you should do so research on area 51, a real life Dr Manhattan has been running around since the 50's.

 

[chaseter]

Alan Moore-Overrated, it's all relative.

Also, he had thoughts on Lost? What were they?

He didn't like it either...SUCK IT ALLAN

 

[Sawyer]

Yeah, Moore not liking Heroes is somewhat understandable, but Lost... no no. And he gave such a BS reason too... he said he watched the first few episodes and that they had so many inconsistencies that all the writers had to do to fix it was watch the previous episode. I literally thought when I read that, I was like you didnt watch the show at all, did you, Alan?

 

[SuperFerret]

I don't like Lost either, but nobody cares.

 

[Gilpesh]

Well, if you try and make a seating chart of the plane... and how the plane broke up... and just how each person ended up where on the island... there's a bunch of oopses.

 

[John Locke]

The real reason Moore doesn't like Heroes is because Stan Lee got a cameo and Moore didn't.

 

[neemer5]

He's not saying they weren't realistic. He's saying they didn't do their homework. And he's right, period. It's one thing to explain powers, of any kind, its another thing to write that you "save the world" by bringing something much worse about and forgetting it's much worse. It's comparable to having a doctor pull out a 9mm and shoot their patient in the chest saying "cancer fixed" in a medical drama. (Not too far out there for House, btw). You can say suspension of disbelief, but the climactic moment of a season is THE big deal, not a minor detail, and when they get it as wrong as Heroes did, and we all knew the finale didn't have as much work or budget as, say, Company Man... it deserves to be lampshaded. Especially by a guy who didn't bother to comment on the flagrant similarities in plot between Heroes and his own masterpiece.

Umm, no, they didn't get it wrong. Alternate reality = Alternate laws. Alan Moore himself has ignored obvious scientific laws and rules for main characters and pivotal plot points. I refer you to this post as an example of how EASILY it could be justified, and Alan Moore, no stranger to blatantly ignoring the laws of thermodynamics, uses the same excuses:

Who are we to say how biologically generated radiation would react? Perhaps its not the same as an atomic bomb.

Seriously, Heroes has a lot to dislike, but his reason is silly.

 

[Wyrminarrd]

An air burst at a few hundred meters is worse then a ground burst but it seemed like Nathan took Peter a lot higher then that which would be better....

Plus unless I´m remembering incorrectly they flew out over the ocean as well.

 

[Artistsean]

If you can see the atomic explosion it means it will still effect you no matter how far up it is. But for the purpose of the story it worked.
They set up this big dramatic moment leading to a dramatic ending where the bomb explodes in the sky while all the characters we got to know and care about stand together and watch.
It purposely ignores the logic and hopes that the audience (at that point) is involved enough in the story that they either don't realize it or don't care.
Many movies have done this, defied logic and reality to make a better story and hope the audience doesn't notice. I have mentioned already Jaws and Iron Giant, but there are others, and the ending is where they do this. And its not because they ran out of money, its because its a dramatic ending.
Many established and celebrated directors and film makers have done this for years.

And for me personally, it worked. I was waiting for the big momment, and even though it occurred to me that if you see the blast you'd still die, I didn't care.
It was a good ending to a good show, season one anyway.

 

[The Question]

Sweet merciful Zeus why are guys in such a hubbub about this? Moore is a respected member of a creative medium. He was being interviewed by a magazine and the magazine decided to ask his personal feelings about other creative works. And he honestly answered what he liked and disliked about various TV shows. It's not a huge deal. It's not like he went on a one man crusade to get Heroes cancelled because he believes it to be a plague upon mankind. He was asked a question. He answered it. That's as far as it went.

 

[TNC9852002]

Alan sounds like some of the people I've met around here...

-TNC

 

[chaseter]

Sweet merciful Zeus why are guys in such a hubbub about this? Moore is a respected member of a creative medium. He was being interviewed by a magazine and the magazine decided to ask his personal feelings about other creative works. And he honestly answered what he liked and disliked about various TV shows. It's not a huge deal. It's not like he went on a one man crusade to get Heroes cancelled because he believes it to be a plague upon mankind. He was asked a question. He answered it. That's as far as it went.

Go onto the Watchmen board and post an article about someone not liking Alan Moore and watch them go ape ****.

 

[Prison Mike]

Moore has a point but he really shouldn't be looking into a realistic explanation about an air burst in a show about SUPERHEROES!