Alba's new comments....

[GoldGoblin]

I think Alba's hot....but that is it. I hope they are not letting her have to much input as to what the storyline is about, this is starting to sound alot like Halle Berry wanting more screen time as Storm. Most powerful of the group, I can do everybody's powers....what the hell!!!!! I thought the first film was OK, but there was room for improvement, and having a love triangle with the Silver Surfer just doesn't sound right at all. They will get someone like Paul Walker to play Silver Surfer to appeal to the OC crowd. God help us.............

^I know,what the crap,she has everyones powers.Doesn't she know this movie is about a team,not about one member of the group.

 

[Kirk Langstrom]

I expect she means she manipulates the fields to do roughly what the others do.

Reed: She stretches the field and is able to grasp objects from a distant with the field. Thereby simulating Reed`s powers.

Thing: Concentrating her field to make her near invulnerable. Using her field and will to be able to lift heavy objects.

Human Torch: I don`t know about the flame bit. She might be able to simulate something like that, it really depends on the nature of the movie version of her force fields. I expect they shall simply show that she can simulate his ability to fly with her force fields.

I expect though they shall show that at this point she can only do feeble simulations of what they can currently do with there powers so as not to negate the point of the other members of the ff.

I was thinking along these lines myself. She says she "kind of" has their powers.....

In regards to Johnny's powers, i believe she can mimic his ability to fly (by hovering on invisible force platforms) as opposed to his fire based powers...

 

[Tron5000]

copyright reasons, I didn't wana be sued

Word. Just messing with you. Hope you didn't take it personally.

And I really do like that song, which is kinda perfect for almost any superhero flick/show.

 

[zer00]

^I know,what the crap,she has everyones powers.Doesn't she know this movie is about a team,not about one member of the group.

...she didn't write the movie

the guy who wrote Super Ex-girlfriend did

 

[Kanon]

I think they are going this way: Dr Doom somehow drives the Silver Surfer to earth (I don't know how, he just makes him come) to absorb his powers. Surfer arrives, a little confused, we get some battle with the FF, Doom pretends to be helping the FF to defeat the "evil alien" and betrays everyone absorving the cosmic power. Battle this, and there, finally the FF restore the Surfers powers and at the end, Galactus shows up looking for his herald. The End
What do you think? Do we have a plot?

 

[GoldGoblin]

Alba's character is suppose to be the weaker one of the group,and now she is more powerful than the other three put together.

 

[Grog]

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[Grog]

I think they are going this way: Dr Doom somehow drives the Silver Surfer to earth (I don't know how, he just makes him come) to absorb his powers. Surfer arrives, a little confused, we get some battle with the FF, Doom pretends to be helping the FF to defeat the "evil alien" and betrays everyone absorving the cosmic power. Battle this, and there, finally the FF restore the Surfers powers and at the end, Galactus shows up looking for his herald. The End
What do you think? Do we have a plot?

That would be great.

 

[Hunter Rider]

I wouldn't be surprised if SS has a human origin and also only turns Sivler when he needs to like Torch does

 

[Kirk Langstrom]

I think they are going this way: Dr Doom somehow drives the Silver Surfer to earth (I don't know how, he just makes him come) to absorb his powers. Surfer arrives, a little confused, we get some battle with the FF, Doom pretends to be helping the FF to defeat the "evil alien" and betrays everyone absorving the cosmic power. Battle this, and there, finally the FF restore the Surfers powers and at the end, Galactus shows up looking for his herald. The End
What do you think? Do we have a plot?

Sounds good to ME, man. I hearby nominate Kanon as new FF2 movie scribe!

Just make sure Kerry doesnt get screwed out of her scenes with the Surfer by giving them to Miss Jessica "hot pants" Alba, lol...

 

[Tony Stark]

Alba's character is suppose to be the weaker one of the group,and now she is more powerful than the other three put together.

She was never the weaker one in the group, never once in the comics. She perhaps was the most shy, the most warry about her powers, but the weaker one? come on you know better.

 

[Inhuman63]

Personally, I have no problem with the Invisible Women being the most powerful member of the group. Gone are the days that a leaf falls on her force field and she passes out. If I had to wait for as many years as the comics took for her powers to manifest in the movies, I don't think I would be around to see it or I probably wouldn't be interested. From my understanding of the 616 universe, Sue's powers originate from Hyperspace and she is indeed more powereful then she even knows. But, aside from that, I think that in this movie she will begin to learn how to do things with her power that can somewhat mimic the powers our other heroes have. Contrary to a lot of what I've read, her comments have intrigued me and made me more excited about the movie. I just hope that they do this correctly.

 

[Franklin Richards]

 

[liesse00]

Couple of things come to mind...They are putting Malice in the mix as was suggested by a few posters.

The love triangle is just Reed getting jealous and misinterpreting Sue's desire to help the Surfer.-- Same as happened to Ben and Alicia.

The Surfer is a villian initially. Whether it is because Galactus has altered his mind or not, he's navigating for a fella thats coming to destroy the earth. Alicia in the books finds his noble side, and I'm sure Sue does the same in the film.

All of you that complained that Sue's role was diminished in the first film have to appreciate that by these indications she will be a larger part of the 2nd story. As far as the Surfer needing his own movie to be introduced, he was introduced in the FF comics quite nicely. A solo Surfer origin movie ends with him as a villian, sure its a tragedy, but not a full circle story either. Finally,
I'd add that the Surfer and Galactus leave opened the possibility that they can mutate Ben further to the Thing we all love.

I think I'm one of five people that are excited about the storyline and Galactus trilogy coming to film. I think it will be a blast.

Good man Grog, good to see someone see's the other side of this.

 

[Dragon]

I agree with a lot of your points, I just think that put in that situation, Sue's first act would be to materialize those force bubbles instantly and explode the others' heads. To do the same, Reed would have to physically move to enter someone's orifice (eww) and in the time that took, Sue would have already done her thing.
I'm not sure how long it takes Johnny to go from zero to nova, but as long as Sue has a force field erected at the same time she's creating those death bubbles, I think she'd take him out before he could build up to nova.
Ever since Sue made a threat to do just that to Dr. Doom in the MK mini-series FF:1234, I've been convinced. It made perfect sense. Sue can kill anyone made of flesh in a fraction of a second.
But it's all wonderfully debatable.

I couldn't agree more with you about Byrne splitting up Ben & Alicia. That's one bad move that has been allowed to stand for WAY to long now:It's 22 years now (real time) that they've been apart!
It's been looking like Dan Slott's slowly getting them back together in his excellent THING series, but apparently that book is getting canceled next month at issue #8.
Ben and Alicia belong back together. I sure hope they give Slott's book a properly promoted relaunch. I'm usually cynical about re-boots, but I'm all for giving this book a second chance. I've really enjoyed his writing, especially the current issue, which features a lot of really clever and heart-felt dialogue between Ben and his blind ex-love. I wouldn't mind seeing Slott write the regular FF book. He certainly seems to have a better feel for all the FF cast of characters than just about any other writer I know of right now.


Yeah, I think that's apparently been the case thus far.
I'm just hoping they surprise us.

The thing I've observed, is that the FF's powers at their best sort of cancel each other out. For example, the expanding force particle wouldn't work on Reed. His internal organs are as fluid as his external. That's why bullets don't hurt him. If he catches the Torch early on, he can smother his flame. And Ben can't hurt him. In Ben's case, he can handle the Torch's flame for a short time. In the end, it's up to the one who's writing the scenario. A case can be made for any of the FF coming out on top of the others. Just because Sue can do deadly things with her force field doesn't mean she's unstoppable.

In the Doom example, If Doom zapped her before she could project it, that's that. And she can't do everything at once, that is protect herself and project force field particles.

 

[liesse00]

I think they are going this way: Dr Doom somehow drives the Silver Surfer to earth (I don't know how, he just makes him come) to absorb his powers. Surfer arrives, a little confused, we get some battle with the FF, Doom pretends to be helping the FF to defeat the "evil alien" and betrays everyone absorving the cosmic power. Battle this, and there, finally the FF restore the Surfers powers and at the end, Galactus shows up looking for his herald. The End
What do you think? Do we have a plot?

Sounds fine to me.

 

[Dragon]

Too soon for that. That story only made sense after Stan and Jack took time to show just how powerful the Surfer was.

 

[tallsy_1]

I'm not upset with Susan being given the most power from a canon perspective, but from the fact that FF should be a team with equal powers. I just worry that since JA is the biggest star they may focus on her to the detriment of the others like Halle and Jackman in X3.

I liked the first movie, but I'm suspicious of the new love triange. Reed is not a great "movie" character. He might suffer from the same problems Cyke did in X2, (although we all pray that they don't go as far as they did in X3).

Another good reason to change the origin: A teenager wouldn't be allowed to go to outer space.

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

They say alot of things. They've at times said Ben was the most powerful member. My point is, why not simply have them as equal? What does it do other than make for some BS feminist pandering to have Sue stand out as most powerful? Anyway- you know that- she can't contain the torch's flame at full power. And the Thing pounding away at her force field (Unless she can cut off his oxygen) would knock her out. And again, Reed, by way of his mind is more dangerous than any of them. So she isn't the most powerful.

I'm sorry but that's simply inaccurate. Marvel has long confirmed that Susan can manipulate the most raw kinetic energy of any of the Four. She is certainly the most powerful, and has been deemed such even by other Marvel characters i.e. Doctor Doom. This is a fact Dragon, not merely Jessica's opinion.

As far as this news of another love triangle between Reed, Susan and THE SILVER SURFER is concerned: What the bloody hell is this foolishness?

It didn't work with Doom in the first film and it certainly won't fly in the sequel. The ONLY feasible love interest for Sue (worth investigating outside her marriage) is Namor. And I believe he's sourced with Universal. In fact, in order for this to make any sense, they're going to have to humanize Silver Surfer, and we already know how that turns out.

 

[Dragon]

I think they are going this way: Dr Doom somehow drives the Silver Surfer to earth (I don't know how, he just makes him come) to absorb his powers. Surfer arrives, a little confused, we get some battle with the FF, Doom pretends to be helping the FF to defeat the "evil alien" and betrays everyone absorving the cosmic power. Battle this, and there, finally the FF restore the Surfers powers and at the end, Galactus shows up looking for his herald. The End
What do you think? Do we have a plot?

That makes no sense on so many levels:

1. Doom knowing who or what the Surfer is.
2. Doom creating the circumstances to drain the Surfer's power.
3. The lack of any screentime to flesh out the Surfer, so we know just how much power Doom is achieveing.
4. What's happening with Galactus during all of this?

In the comics there was establishing of all of this before we got to Doom stealing the Surfer's powers so it worked.

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

And why is that every major Marvel film is focusing on these love triangles anyway? After Mary Jane/Peter/Harry, Susan/Reed/Victor, Jean/Scott/Logan and now Mary Jane/Peter/Gwen, aren't we a bit tired of this concept?

Try something new FoX and Marvel...challenge us.

 

[Fanticon]

Is Fox trying to repeat a "Pheonix" from X3 with Sue Storm? Love triangle, most powerful of the four? This sounds a bit familiar...I am one of the few people in my group of friends who enjoyed F4, knowing that there were going to be changes to the characters and storylines...but now this, are they drawing from any of the comic storylines or just using the characters? Maybe this is way too early to tell.

 

[Fanticon]

And hasn't it been confirmed that Doom will not be in this movie...or atleast the actor isn't coming back so, that would mean they might just not even use him.

 

[Dragon]

I'm sorry but that's simply inaccurate. Marvel has long confirmed that Susan can manipulate the most raw kinetic energy of any of the Four. She is certainly the most powerful, and has been deemed such even by other Marvel characters i.e. Doctor Doom. This is a fact Dragon, not merely Jessica's opinion.

It's also been established that Gwen Stacy had children with the Green goblin during a period when she had no way of carrying children to term. It's been established by Marvel that even though the Kingpin can only lift 1000 lbs on his best day, has nothing more than peak human speed, he can still survive, and even win a slugfest with Spider-Man, who is 20 times stronger and ten times faster. It's called BAD WRITING.

Again aside from pretentious BS feminism, what reason is there to explain why Sue is the most powerful? She could never contain the torch's full power. She can't withstand a full on attack from Grimm. What it comes down to with the Ff is merely who gets off their attack first. The team is equally powerful.

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

LS, your avatar is cracking me up.