Alba's new comments....

[Kelly]

Actually, I believe Universal has the film rights to Namor.

Universal has distribution rights to Sub-Mariner yes, Marvel has production rights.

 

[Kelly]

Alba's character is suppose to be the weaker one of the group,and now she is more powerful than the other three put together.

Ummmm...no

 

[Kelly]

It's also been established that Gwen Stacy had children with the Green goblin during a period when she had no way of carrying children to term. It's been established by Marvel that even though the Kingpin can only lift 1000 lbs on his best day, has nothing more than peak human speed, he can still survive, and even win a slugfest with Spider-Man, who is 20 times stronger and ten times faster. It's called BAD WRITING.

Again aside from pretentious BS feminism, what reason is there to explain why Sue is the most powerful? She could never contain the torch's full power. She can't withstand a full on attack from Grimm. What it comes down to with the Ff is merely who gets off their attack first. The team is equally powerful.

Again aside from pretentious BS feminism, what reason is there to explain why Sue is the most powerful?

You're a funny little man...

What it comes down to with the Ff is merely who gets off their attack first. The team is equally powerful.

Ummmmm no...

 

[Lord Blackbolt]

considering how they royally ****ed up one of comics greatest villians......I almost dread what they'll do to Marvel greatest cosmic characters now.

 

[snuunuu]

I don't get one thing. Why is it that you say the moviemakers are simple minded idiots only thinking of money when they decide to deviate from the comics a little, and then go on preaching that the comic-book way is the only way and there never has been and never will be a better way to tell the story? Hypocricy much? I don't know, just something I thought I picked up on some of you guys.

I mean yeah, I can see your point of view. You've grown up with the comics and you're attached to them, and probably they're something you hold very dear. But you've got to broaden your horizons a bit, the comics can't be translated from panels into a full feature movie without any changes. Some changes probably hurt the story from a comic-book fan's point of view, but the general audience won't know the difference and in their point of view, the changes usually make the story better, more consistent (yes, and a bit more "popcorn" if you want to say that). Anyways, enough on that matter since it's all subjective no matter who says what.

Now, I didn't grow up with the comics but I've read some issues and a lot of stuff on the net, and I know something about the characters. I didn't actually mind the changes that much, I can understand why they made them. And I'm fine with Sue being the most powerful of the four as an individual. She's my favourite one, actually, and was so even before I came to realize she's the strongest. I just click with the heroines better, I guess. And I'm also a bit baffled with JA's statement that she can "do" everyone else's powers, but I'm open minded about it and wait until I see what she meant with that before I totally judge the idea.

 

[Dragon]

You're a funny little man...


Ummmmm no...

Your point?

 

[Kelly]

Your point?

LMAO....why am I not surprised you didn't get that.....???

 

[Lord Blackbolt]

That makes no sense on so many levels:

1. Doom knowing who or what the Surfer is.
2. Doom creating the circumstances to drain the Surfer's power.
3. The lack of any screentime to flesh out the Surfer, so we know just how much power Doom is achieveing.
4. What's happening with Galactus during all of this?

In the comics there was establishing of all of this before we got to Doom stealing the Surfer's powers so it worked.

I agree. Plus...they should save that story for the 3rd movie. it'll be a nice trilogy type of feel.

 

[snuunuu]

Oh yeah, one thing I'd like to see in FF 2 is a name change for Sue. Invisible Woman is much more fitting for her, especially now that she's married with Reed. Invisible Girl is cute and all... but that's not really catchy nor fitting; she's not a girl anymore, she's a woman.

 

[Flash Fearless]

I mean yeah, I can see your point of view. You've grown up with the comics and you're attached to them, and probably they're something you hold very dear. But you've got to broaden your horizons a bit, the comics can't be translated from panels into a full feature movie without any changes. Some changes probably hurt the story from a comic-book fan's point of view, but the general audience won't know the difference and in their point of view, the changes usually make the story better, more consistent (yes, and a bit more "popcorn" if you want to say that). Anyways, enough on that matter since it's all subjective no matter who says what.

There's a difference between making changes that will work better in a film and making changes that shouldn't be made. A lot of changes were made in the X-Men and Spider-Man movies, but they were still great movies.

The general audience, without any previous knowledge of the Fantastic Four, probably walked away from the movie thinking about how dumb the comics probably are.

 

[Carp Man]

How many believe this is turning into a Ultimate FF movie franchise ? Sue is not the most powerful of the 4. She's strong in her own way, but that doesn't mean powerful. She's a supoting member, allthough an important member, as they all are. You can't have 1 without the other 3. And did I hear that DC is bringing back Batwoman as a lesbian ? If true, only from the minds of DC could that happen. Oh here it is :

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060531/ap_on_re_us/batwoman_uncloseted_3

DC strikes again. Batwomen comming out of the closet.

 

[Kelly]

There's a difference between making changes that will work better in a film and making changes that shouldn't be made. A lot of changes were made in the X-Men and Spider-Man movies, but they were still great movies.

The general audience, without any previous knowledge of the Fantastic Four, probably walked away from the movie thinking about how dumb the comics probably are.

"probably"....no....."possible" maybe.....depends on who you talk to.....moviegoers and teens I know that saw it, really enjoyed it, and found nothing dumb about it....just alot of fun, and enjoyment.

 

[snuunuu]

There's a difference between making changes that will work better in a film and making changes that shouldn't be made. A lot of changes were made in the X-Men and Spider-Man movies, but they were still great movies.

The general audience, without any previous knowledge of the Fantastic Four, probably walked away from the movie thinking about how dumb the comics probably are.

Which changes do you think were unjustified and/or unnecessary?

 

[liesse00]

I don't get one thing. Why is it that you say the moviemakers are simple minded idiots only thinking of money when they decide to deviate from the comics a little, and then go on preaching that the comic-book way is the only way and there never has been and never will be a better way to tell the story? Hypocricy much? I don't know, just something I thought I picked up on some of you guys.

I mean yeah, I can see your point of view. You've grown up with the comics and you're attached to them, and probably they're something you hold very dear. But you've got to broaden your horizons a bit, the comics can't be translated from panels into a full feature movie without any changes. Some changes probably hurt the story from a comic-book fan's point of view, but the general audience won't know the difference and in their point of view, the changes usually make the story better, more consistent (yes, and a bit more "popcorn" if you want to say that). Anyways, enough on that matter since it's all subjective no matter who says what.

Now, I didn't grow up with the comics but I've read some issues and a lot of stuff on the net, and I know something about the characters. I didn't actually mind the changes that much, I can understand why they made them. And I'm fine with Sue being the most powerful of the four as an individual. She's my favourite one, actually, and was so even before I came to realize she's the strongest. I just click with the heroines better, I guess. And I'm also a bit baffled with JA's statement that she can "do" everyone else's powers, but I'm open minded about it and wait until I see what she meant with that before I totally judge the idea.

I've been trying to say this for a long time, they're not going to listen to you.

 

[Dynasty]

As much as like Jessica Alba she needs to shut-up.

Everything sounds great to me except fo the love triangle, i hope that's jessica as an actress looking to in to it. But one thing that comes to mind is i strongly doubt at this time in pre-production that Fox would let jessica read the whole script, she's probaly just repeating her favorite parts of what her agent told her.

 

[Dragon]

LMAO....why am I not surprised you didn't get that.....???

Okay.. You've had your laugh- now expound...

 

[Dragon]

I agree. Plus...they should save that story for the 3rd movie. it'll be a nice trilogy type of feel.

Totally. Too soon for Galactus.

 

[Dragon]

I don't get one thing. Why is it that you say the moviemakers are simple minded idiots only thinking of money when they decide to deviate from the comics a little, and then go on preaching that the comic-book way is the only way and there never has been and never will be a better way to tell the story? Hypocricy much? I don't know, just something I thought I picked up on some of you guys.


I mean yeah, I can see your point of view. You've grown up with the comics and you're attached to them, and probably they're something you hold very dear. But you've got to broaden your horizons a bit, the comics can't be translated from panels into a full feature movie without any changes. Some changes probably hurt the story from a comic-book fan's point of view, but the general audience won't know the difference and in their point of view, the changes usually make the story better, more consistent (yes, and a bit more "popcorn" if you want to say that). Anyways, enough on that matter since it's all subjective no matter who says what.

Now, I didn't grow up with the comics but I've read some issues and a lot of stuff on the net, and I know something about the characters. I didn't actually mind the changes that much, I can understand why they made them. And I'm fine with Sue being the most powerful of the four as an individual. She's my favourite one, actually, and was so even before I came to realize she's the strongest. I just click with the heroines better, I guess. And I'm also a bit baffled with JA's statement that she can "do" everyone else's powers, but I'm open minded about it and wait until I see what she meant with that before I totally judge the idea.

That's not the case. I doubt anyone has a problem with deviations from the source material if the deviation is an improvement. The problem is that these aren't improvements.

Generating YET ANOTHER love triangle suggests they're going for low brow soap opera story telling.

And the only reason they're pushing Alba to the forefront is because of her being flavor of the moment. Certainly not her acting ability or that Sue's character is the most interesting of the team.

 

[Kelly]

Okay.. You've had your laugh- now expound...

Nah....if you didn't get it the first time, waste of time to explain....

 

[liesse00]

I just read up on this Malice thing kind of like Phoenix in the new X-Men film, that would be interesting to see.

 

[Kelly]

I just read up on this Malice thing kind of like Phoenix in the new X-Mem film, that would be interesting to see.

Thats been my, I guess, "story line I want to see".....who knows....we'll see....

 

[Flash Fearless]

Which changes do you think were unjustified and/or unnecessary?

Almost everything with Dr. Doom. Instead of a complex, interesting villain, he became a cookie-cutter, revenge driven one dimensional character. In fact, most of his scenes felt lifted directly from Willem Dafoe's scenes in Spider-Man, except much sloppier.
Including Doom in the FF's origin also takes away from the character, as well as making Ben Grimm's transformation a bit less tragic.

The characters spend a lot of the movie doing nothing, until the film's (anti-)climax. On a whole, the movie is very bland with a few interesting scenes.

On a minor note, the sets and props were too "cartoony." I understand that we're dealing with fantasy, but it is hard to take the characters seriously when their live action world looks like a cartoon.

As for justified changes, there needed to be some reason that Sue and Johnny were in space, so making Johnny an astronaut made sense. I also really liked the Thing's costume.

However, making Sue a scientist changes the character significantly, and I still don't know whether a better written Sue could have saved the character.

I have no problem with a lot of the changes made in other comicbook movies. I'm fine with organic webbing, Rogue's characterization, and Michael Clarke Duncan as the Kingpin.

 

[Dragon]

Nah....if you didn't get it the first time, waste of time to explain....

That or your point's not as clever as you built it up to be?

Onward

 

[Carp Man]

That or your point's not as clever as you built it up to be?

Onward

And upword.

 

[Kelly]

That or your point's not as clever as you built it up to be?

Onward

maybe....or too much so....


Back to the topic:....

the complaints are valid for the most part.....but I'll wait to see what comes of this before I speculate....