BvS All Things Batman v Superman: An Open Discussion - - Part 109

[Whiskey Tango]

I just sort of hate RT now, we don't have metacritic score threads or IMDB score threads, so why should RT and their odd scoring system get special attention?

That's a good question. I've always felt CinemaScore was poorly represented in these discussions.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Rotten Tomatoes collects reviews from critics, IMDB is voted on by anyone and can be voted on by people who haven't even seen the film they are scoring...so yeah those two things aren't the same.

I don't care about Metacritic but a person is free to start a thread about it.

 

[TheNextNolan22]

That's a good question. I've always felt CinemaScore was poorly represented in these discussions.

After CinemaScore gave Alex Cross an "A", I can see why.

 

[KillerMcQueen]

Rotten Tomatoes collects reviews from critics, IMDB is voted on by anyone and can be voted on by people who haven't even seen the film they are scoring...so yeah those two things aren't the same.

I don't care about Metacritic but a person is free to start a thread about it.

RT collects from a smallish and oddly selected pool of critics, metacritic collects from the stick up their arses critics, and IMDB collects from the general public, which is large enough to keep the tiny minority that tries to sway the vote by voting early or with multiple accounts mostly irrelevent. I may not consider any of the three reliable, but I don't for a second put IMDB scores below the likes of RT and Metacritic.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

After CinemaScore gave Alex Cross an "A", I can see why.

lol well you have a point there but no system is perfect.

 

[Fallen Angel]

You just know some guy reading all this now will open up a RT score thread for BvS right about now.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

It's too early for such a thread, we don't even have a gosh darn trailer.

 

[Fallen Angel]

It's too early for such a thread, we don't even have a gosh darn trailer.

When has that stopped people Spidey?

We already have a prediction thread for how much money the movie will make which was opened last year.

 

[fake]

That's a good question. I've always felt CinemaScore was poorly represented in these discussions.

CinemaScore polls a grand total of 5 theaters and only on Opening Day. Their ballot is also laughable. It is basically a huge scam. If you make a Facebook post asking how anyone liked a movie, and 30 people from across the US replied to it - Congrats, you can set up a cinemascore competitor.

 

[Iceman]

RT collects from a smallish and oddly selected pool of critics, metacritic collects from the stick up their arses critics, and IMDB collects from the general public, which is large enough to keep the tiny minority that tries to sway the vote by voting early or with multiple accounts mostly irrelevent. I may not consider any of the three reliable, but I don't for a second put IMDB scores below the likes of RT and Metacritic.

I guess you don't know about what happened when TDK came out on IMDB to the scores of the other top films near the no.1 spot, like The Godfather?

 

[regwec]

Sites like RT are less meaningful now movies are so similar and critics are interchangeable.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

metacritic collects from the stick up their arses critics

Did a recent movie you liked get a low metacritic score?

 

[RadioSha]

IMDB is bad.

I use Rotten Tomatoes, Chris Stuckmann, and Schmoes Know to gauge which films I'll be seeing.

Chris and Schmoes explain their likes and dislikes about a movie really well. I've kind of built this rubric that even when they don't like a particular, it won't necessarily mean I won't go see it.

I've seen a few movies where they're like "nope, it wasn't for me because blah blah blah" and I'm like ok. I'm actually totally into that blah blah blah. Recent example is John Wick, which was amazingballs.

 

[Marvin]

My stance on reviews and RT is simple. I don't read reviews or look at RT until after I have watched any movie I am looking forward to. This is to avoid spoilers and internet arguments. I avoid the threads relating to that movie on any forum I am a member of.

Once I am done watching, I read the reviews or look at RT to gauge the general critical "consensus".

This is pretty key in my experience. I've avoided reading any of these kinds of opinions before the movie. Whether they be forum or otherwise. Reading them after the fact is like visiting a forum after the fact, very different once you have your own experience under you. I'd imagine critics enjoy the reverse.

This is so interesting when it comes to one of these blog sites giving their 'reviews' of early footage or trailers or con stuff. This one time slash film tried to give their footage recap the same day it got out...very different.

 

[BravoNolanILuvU]

Did a recent movie you liked get a low metacritic score?

Metacritic critic pls leave.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

When has that stopped people Spidey?

We already have a prediction thread for how much money the movie will make which was opened last year.

You've got me there Angel.

 

[matt47]

I don't look at any reviews or scores before I see a film because I know it I will hurt my expectations. The only thing I do to judge whether I'll see a movie is the trailer(s).
IMO Scores and rating are ridiculously stupid.

 

[KillerMcQueen]

I guess you don't know about what happened when TDK came out on IMDB to the scores of the other top films near the no.1 spot, like The Godfather?

It was a knee-jerk reaction to the film, it balanced out to a more sane position before long. critics make the same knee jerk reactions but their reviews rarely get updated to reflect their final opinion.

 

[Marvin]

The directors cut keeps on giving
[YT]M1_LI0fsWag[/YT]
Hopefully some of that stuff please. Complete with laying hands on cops but only the crooked ones in Gotham.
(I do hope we get lots of crooked cops in gotham this time).

 

[Tacit Ronin]

What sane position? TDK is still in the top 13 or something right? That is not sane.

 

[KillerMcQueen]

I don't look at any reviews or scores before I see a film because I know it I will hurt my expectations. The only thing I do to judge whether I'll see a movie is the trailer(s).
IMO Scores and rating are ridiculously stupid.

Agreed, I'm several different kinds of done with scores and ratings.

 

[KillerMcQueen]

What sane position? TDK is still in the top 13 or something right? That is not sane.

More sane, I didn't say totally sane, I'm not saying IMDB is a good site for scores, I'm saying it's just as **** as the rest.

 

[Iceman]

I find it all fun, box office prediction and post-release discussion and same for RT. And there have been some notable recent exceptions but otherwise the RT average rating correlates very strongly with the quality I think a film has, and I'm not talking about films where I knew the RT score in advance. But quality isn't necessarily enjoyment.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

The directors cut keeps on giving
[YT]M1_LI0fsWag[/YT]
Hopefully some of that stuff please. Complete with laying hands on cops but only the crooked ones in Gotham.
(I do hope we get lots of crooked cops in gotham this time).

I never liked that scene. Seemed rather pointless. Moreover, it replaced the minutemen photograph used to poetically transition into the next scene in the TC that I thought was a far superior choice.

 

[Iceman]

It was a knee-jerk reaction to the film, it balanced out to a more sane position before long. critics make the same knee jerk reactions but their reviews rarely get updated to reflect their final opinion.

Nope. I'm talking about the scores of the non-TDK films, some of which came out decades before suddenly getting loads of new ratings when TDK was getting close to no.1. And yep you guessed it all zero out of 10. Those scores never move because most people have already seen them. Giving a 9/10 film a 10 doesn't have much impact but a few thousand at zero can make a difference (and did).