BvS All Things Batman v Superman: An Open Discussion - - - - - - - Part 188

[antoineflemming]

So yeah, I think I'll maintain what I said. Because they're women, they just can't fight... Completely remove the warrior aspect from the Amazons.

 

[bluearth]

In the trailer theres two particular signs

Aliens Doom Nations and God hates aliens

These signs are rainbow colored

 

[rockandrollsoul]

This is what he says, starting out by talking about his Earth One graphic novel:

It’s finished now and it’ll be coming out soon. I sat down and I thought, “I don’t want to do this warrior woman thing.” I can understand why they’re doing it, I get all that, but that’s not what [Wonder Woman creator] William Marston wanted, that’s not what he wanted at all! His original concept for Wonder Woman was an answer to comics that he thought were filled with images of blood-curdling masculinity, and you see the latest shots of Gal Gadot in the costume, and it’s all sword and shield and her snarling at the camera. Marston’s Diana was a doctor, a healer, a scientist. So I went back to those roots and just built it up again.

What would a society of immortal women that’s been around for 7,000 years have done? They wouldn’t still be chopping men’s head’s off; they’ve got art and architecture and philosophy and poetry and it’s got nothing to do with men. So Yanick Paquette did this amazing design job, where there are no phallic objects. The only phallic objects are like these Greek towers that are almost like this haunting echo of the culture they came from.

Wonder Woman’s Invisible Plane is now shaped like a vagina, it’s the most incredible thing. It opens up in the back and it has a little clitoris hood, everything is a female-based design. It’s all based on shells and natural stuff. He’s created this entire newly designed world for the Amazons. And for the first 48 pages, there are no men — it’s just women talking to each other. And then halfway through the book, we’re building up to this big fight, and then I thought, “No, I’m not.” This book isn’t about fights, there’s not going to be any fights. So we threw out the rules of traditional boy’s adventure fiction. It’s the most exciting book I’ve done in years, it changed everything I’m thinking about the future.

I'm curious as to what the conflict is in that book.

 

[Fallen Angel]

Speaking of Earth One, I hope the Aquaman Earth One: Volume 1 novel has the Momoa inspired outfit.

 

[Guts]

In the trailer theres two particular signs

Aliens Doom Nations and God hates aliens

These signs are rainbow colored

There's also a Marry me Superman sign.

 

[Rapunzel]

There's also a Marry me Superman sign.

Isn't it nice I made it into the film as an extra? t:

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Those signs are funny to me, I love it.

 

[KillerWolf]

So yeah, I think I'll maintain what I said. Because they're women, they just can't fight... Completely remove the warrior aspect from the Amazons.

You said that he's an idiot. I don't think you quite grasp what you did... calling Grant Morrison an idiot is like calling Adolf Hitler a humanitarian. t:

Seriously though, it's his book and he wants to explore a more character-driven story from the standpoint that doesn't involve her fighting and shows more of her other peaceful traits. I don't think that's a bad idea at all. And I especially like what he said about them having quite established philosophy and art. It is a side of them that is rarely depicted. Themyscira is way too often made to look like Amazonians don't have any of the aforementioned things and they only fight all day, even though they live on isolated island where there's nothing to fight. That assumption that all-female society would not have developed art, philosophy, poetry, etc. is much more insulting to women than one they shouldn't be bloodthirsty warriors.

 

[Fallen Angel]

Isn't it nice I made it into the film as an extra? t:

You're sign isn't risque as I thought it would be.

I thought it would've said " My body is yours to do whatever you wish"

 

[bluearth]

There's also a Marry me Superman sign.

Was it held up by a man?

 

[rockandrollsoul]

You said that he's an idiot. I don't think you quite grasp what you did... calling Grant Morrison an idiot is like calling Adolf Hitler a humanitarian. t:

Seriously though, it's his book and he wants to explore a more character-driven story from the standpoint that doesn't involve her fighting and shows more of her other peaceful traits. I don't think that's a bad idea at all. And I especially like what he said about them having quite established philosophy and art. It is a side of them that is rarely depicted. Themyscira is way too often made to look like Amazonians don't have any of the aforementioned things and they only fight all day, even though they live on isolated island where there's nothing to fight. That assumption that all-female society would not have developed art, philosophy, poetry, etc. is much more insulting to women than one they shouldn't be bloodthirsty warriors.

This was the part I agreed with, too. I definitely feel the Amazonians would have a strong culture and would not just be relegated to war.

 

[Guts]

On the right there's a picture of a girl that says saved.

 

[Guts]

Was it held up by a man?

Does the gender matter?

 

[Rapunzel]

You're sign isn't risque as I thought it would be.

I thought it would've said " My body is yours to do whatever you wish"

The censors were watching. The risqué signs were painted in edible paint on my naked body. They were for..... behind the scenes footage.

 

[antoineflemming]

Speaking of Earth One, I hope the Aquaman Earth One: Volume 1 novel has the Momoa inspired outfit.

You mean the new post-Convergence one? The one that looks like Prince of Persia?

 

[Fallen Angel]

You mean the new post-Convergence one? The one that looks like Prince of Persia?

I've not seen that costume dude.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

The censors were watching. The risqué signs were painted in edible paint on my naked body. They were for..... behind the scenes footage.

 

[KillerWolf]

I've not seen that costume dude.

I think it's this one.

Not bad, but a bit unoriginal with this Roman cuirass:

 

[antoineflemming]

I've not seen that costume dude.

I thought you might have been talking about this one:

 

[Spider-Aziz]

You guys seen this?

I'm seeing it now, and I like what I see.

 

[Fallen Angel]

I think it's this one.

Not bad, but a bit unoriginal with this Roman cuirass:

I thought you might have been talking about this one:

Ah, I see look's good and Momoa inspired.

 

[Lily Adler]

Does the gender matter?

To figure out that if it was indeed Sawyer? Then yes.

 

[TheFlamingCoco]

This is what he says, starting out by talking about his Earth One graphic novel:

It’s finished now and it’ll be coming out soon. I sat down and I thought, “I don’t want to do this warrior woman thing.” I can understand why they’re doing it, I get all that, but that’s not what [Wonder Woman creator] William Marston wanted, that’s not what he wanted at all! His original concept for Wonder Woman was an answer to comics that he thought were filled with images of blood-curdling masculinity, and you see the latest shots of Gal Gadot in the costume, and it’s all sword and shield and her snarling at the camera. Marston’s Diana was a doctor, a healer, a scientist. So I went back to those roots and just built it up again.

What would a society of immortal women that’s been around for 7,000 years have done? They wouldn’t still be chopping men’s head’s off; they’ve got art and architecture and philosophy and poetry and it’s got nothing to do with men. So Yanick Paquette did this amazing design job, where there are no phallic objects. The only phallic objects are like these Greek towers that are almost like this haunting echo of the culture they came from.

Wonder Woman’s Invisible Plane is now shaped like a vagina, it’s the most incredible thing. It opens up in the back and it has a little clitoris hood, everything is a female-based design. It’s all based on shells and natural stuff. He’s created this entire newly designed world for the Amazons. And for the first 48 pages, there are no men — it’s just women talking to each other. And then halfway through the book, we’re building up to this big fight, and then I thought, “No, I’m not.” This book isn’t about fights, there’s not going to be any fights. So we threw out the rules of traditional boy’s adventure fiction. It’s the most exciting book I’ve done in years, it changed everything I’m thinking about the future.

It's to counter the pods in MOS

 

[protocida]

Interesting trailer. Seems tightly-written and no aparent filters is always a plus. Eisemberg is not what I pictured, but seems good. Still not sold on Gal Gadot on an acting standpoint, but visually she's alright. Interested in how Zombie Zod/Doomsday/Bizarro looks.

 

[Allnite78]

wouldn't be surprised if he looked like Superman, I think they may want to make people really hate Superman till the end when he redeems himself. People as in citizens of Metropolis.