Transformers Allspark Question (spoilers)

[November Rain]

I want Wheeljack to customize the Allspark into the Matrix in the sequel. Also, without their prescious life-giving Allspark, the TRANSFORMERS should look for alternative sources of energy.

doesn't the matrix also exist

 

[Saved]

It should. Deep inside Optimus surounding his Spark.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Isnt that how OP was going to destroy the Allspark?

 

[Saved]

No, he has a spark as does everyone. Its just the Prime of the time carries the matrix of leadership in his chest. They didn't mention the matrix, but it should be given that he has it.

 

[portland2002]

Why was the Allspark blocky?

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

No, he has a spark as does everyone. Its just the Prime of the time carries the matrix of leadership in his chest. They didn't mention the matrix, but it should be given that he has it.

Yeah i know he has it in his chest as the leader. I just assumed the Matrix would help destory the Allspark.

 

[Saved]

Not that I know of. Anyone could destroy the cube by bonding it with their spark. Hence Megs' death.

 

[ang_hulk]

that was done for the sequal.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Not that I know of. Anyone could destroy the cube by bonding it with their spark. Hence Megs' death.

Does that mean ANY Autobot or decepticon could destroy the Allspark if they chose to do so?

 

[Saved]

Yeah basically. Its just Optimus was taking the iniative because he's the Autobot leader. He didn't want to kill Megatron, otherwise he could've shoved it in his chest, taking out two threats. But he still loves Megatron (brotherly love) and he would rather sacrafice himself.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Yeah basically. Its just Optimus was taking the iniative because he's the Autobot leader. He didn't want to kill Megatron, otherwise he could've shoved it in his chest, taking out two threats. But he still loves Megatron (brotherly love) and he would rather sacrafice himself.

So is it true Optimus and Megatron are brothers? Its been a while since i saw it (going on 15 years!) but i dont remember them being brothers in the cartoon.

Back to the first point, i realize Optimus was being a good leader by sacrificing himself, but, when OP was MIA during the final battle, you'd think one of the other autobots would volunteer wouldnt you.

Thanks for the info BTW.

 

[Saved]

So is it true Optimus and Megatron are brothers? Its been a while since i saw it (going on 15 years!) but i dont remember them being brothers in the cartoon.

Back to the first point, i realize Optimus was being a good leader by sacrificing himself, but, when OP was MIA during the final battle, you'd think one of the other autobots would volunteer wouldnt you.

Thanks for the info BTW.

They weren't brothers in the cartoon. But because of the Allspark, they are all brothers. But according to the prequel comic, Prime and Megatron ruled Cybertron together. Prime was fair, Megatron was firm. So they were also very close friends. Would you want to kill your best friend you've had and ruled with for many years? Chances are, not really.

The delay thing with Prime for the final battle? I have no clue. He should've been 5 minutes behind. Instead, he was hours.

Just think of me as the Oracle of all Marvel, DC, Star Wars, or Transformers lore.

 

[dancing_on_fire]

If prime destroyed the allspark megs would of still killed everyone lol, and im pretty sure judging by the events of the film, that if Frenzy regenerated his body with the allspark then Jazz could do the same but this seems along the lines of Armada/Energon where smokescreen died but his spark survived and a new body was bulit and same with inferno who became roadblock. They will hopefully bring Jazz back this way. If an extended edition will surface im sure the ending will extend with refrencing to Jazz's return, or the comics will.

 

[Saved]

Ah but it did not repair BB when his legs were blown off. And as we have said, a piece of the allspark is not the whole allspark. Might not work to its fullest.

 

[November Rain]

I'm fairly sure that in the british version of this film, prime mentions joining the allspark with his matrix in order to destroy it.

I'm fairly sure he has some sort of leadershipt matrix attached to him

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Ah but it did not repair BB when his legs were blown off. And as we have said, a piece of the allspark is not the whole allspark. Might not work to its fullest.

But BB in his car form was fully repaired at the end of the movie wasnt he, so somehow they fixed his legs, otherwise parts of his car form would be missing.

 

[Saved]

But BB in his car form was fully repaired at the end of the movie wasnt he, so somehow they fixed his legs, otherwise parts of his car form would be missing.

True. But aside from the fact they can somewhat fix themselves and I am sure Ratchet helped fix him, the Allspark can definently still fix and repair guys. I just don't think it can bring them back from the dead. But I also find it hard to believe Jazz died.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

True. But aside from the fact they can somewhat fix themselves and I am sure Ratchet helped fix him, the Allspark can definently still fix and repair guys. I just don't think it can bring them back from the dead. But I also find it hard to believe Jazz died.

Hhhhhhmmmm, i gues we'll have to wait and see, its all speculation at this point, but the guy who voiced Jazz did say in an interview they can bring him back with that piece of the Allspark, which i would mind a bit.