Civil War Along Came a Spider - The Peter Parker / Spider-Man Thread - Part 1

[spider-neil]

In CW Parker lives in a 2 bed apartment (that's what it looked like). In Raimi's and Webb's movies he lives in house. Just pointing it out there. In Webb's movie, the house has a basement.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

In CW Parker lives in a 2 bed apartment (that's what it looked like). In Raimi's and Webb's movies he lives in house. Just pointing it out there. In Webb's movie, the house has a basement.

Houses sure... That we saw in both continuities Ben Parker struggling to maintain, not filled with some very expensive looking stuff and furniture. On a first viewing the Parkers in CW have a place that far from looks like a real "low income" apartment and it looks filled with some nice stuff. Granted, with a much younger May she could still be working and have the income. But for this long time Spidey fan it was a bit strange to see is all.

 

[Herolee10]

Am I the only one that loved on how Spider-Man was the only hero in this film that was shown to have a bright and hopeful future within the MCU?

I know that he has no personal ties to any of the other members of the two Avengers's factions and has no real stake in the Sokovia records, but I felt like the film positioned him in a way where it feels like he represents the new generation of heroes rising within the MCU, one who isn't weighed down by the constraints and past baggage that everyone else carries from their times as heroes.

 

[First Avenger]

Am I the only one that loved on how Spider-Man was the only hero in this film that was shown to have a bright and hopeful future within the MCU?

I know that he has no personal ties to any of the other members of the two Avengers's factions and has no real stake in the Sokovia records, but I felt like the film positioned him in a way where it feels like he represents the new generation of heroes rising within the MCU, one who isn't weighed down by the constraints and past baggage that everyone else carries from their times as heroes.

Yup,while the other heroes are all affected by the events of the movie and What came before (and I think the same will happen to Thor and Hulk ),Spidey is just getting his superhero career started. He's the new player in town!

 

[Nathan]

Wonder if there's a Civil War 2 in his future. Right now, we only have the accords that affect the Avengers and stop them from being a Private Organization. That might eventually extend to all superheroes who take the law into their own hands. Unless of course in Infinity War they get rid of the accords.

 

[Herolee10]

I kind of hope that Spider-Man breaks away from Iron Man in "Homecoming", where he realizes that Tony's approach towards heroism isn't suited for his (Peter's) style.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

I really want to hear that Evans will have a cameo in the solo alongside RDJ.

 

[Herolee10]

I really want to hear that Evans will have a cameo in the solo alongside RDJ.

As much as I would like for that to happen, I think they may save Evans for a cameo in "Black Panther" while RDJ gets "Homecoming".

 

[AnneFan]

Am I the only one that loved on how Spider-Man was the only hero in this film that was shown to have a bright and hopeful future within the MCU?

I know that he has no personal ties to any of the other members of the two Avengers's factions and has no real stake in the Sokovia records, but I felt like the film positioned him in a way where it feels like he represents the new generation of heroes rising within the MCU, one who isn't weighed down by the constraints and past baggage that everyone else carries from their times as heroes.

Yep. I also dug how they made Spidey gain his powers only recently. Meaning he didn't sit back and watch with powers while aliens invaded NY during The Avengers, even though he would've probably been too young to engage back then. Spidey can help out in a team but he still seems like his own man, unconnected to past baggage as you say, but having his own baggage such as homework, juggling his secret and later girl troubles. Right now he's starting out fresh with excitement and enthusiasm.

 

[PelvicSorcery]

Anyone else dreading just how much Tony will influence Peter and the direction of his films? Part of his fun is his independence so don't really care to see him mentored by Tony, but he displayed enough of that youthful exuberance that I think there might be a shift in his attitudes in his solo.

Also don't really care to see Tony pursue Aunt May romantically, which may or may not happen but it was hinted at and Tony and Pepper are on the rocks. If Tony is more than a glorified cameo in Peter's life, I could see that being a source of conflict for the two, which would be distracting and weird. There's such rich world to explore with Spider-Man that forcing Tony in too much could be to its detriment.

With that said, Spider-Man was everything in this film, and I did like his interactions with Tony. I just hope they don't overdo it, lol. Thankfully RDJ comes with such a hefty price tag that I don't think we need to worry that much. They really don't need to tack him on to sell their take on Spider-Man. They've already done an excellent job selling him in this film

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

I hope they go the route of Tony as someone that pops in and out of Peter's life and not as a full blown supporting character. A cameo is fine. Making the movie have a subplot about Peter and Tony's relationship would be pushing it a bit far for my taste.

 

[marshal99]

Spidey is still Sony's baby and the profits for homecoming is all sony so tony is just a loan like spidy was in civil war. I can't imagine RDJ having a big part in this since this is still a spiderman movie although from what i read , sony is also going ahead with a solo venom movie that will be seperated from the reboot continuty. Not sure how that works though.

 

[Hero_of_Time98]

Spidey is still Sony's baby and the profits for homecoming is all sony so tony is just a loan like spidy was in civil war. I can't imagine RDJ having a big part in this since this is still a spiderman movie although from what i read , sony is also going ahead with a solo venom movie that will be seperated from the reboot continuty. Not sure how that works though.

I don't think that RDJ's role in Homecoming is going to be a cameo. Sony desperately wants a Spider-Man movie to hit $1 Billion. They aren't going to do that with Tony Stark having just a cameo. I don't expect him to be a full on supporting character in the movie, the way he was in Civil War. But I do expect Iron Man to appear in the suit in the film and they will most definitely expand his relationship and mentorship with Peter Parker. The chemistry he had, along with Aunt May, was great. The scene in Queens was my favorite non-action scene of the entire movie. Having Tony Stark in Homecoming is a win for both the fans and for Sony.

 

[harryoscop]

Still don't wanna see him in the suit.

 

[JOE]

Still don't wanna see him in the suit.

Lets pay him $50M and not use him to his full cinematic potential?

Spoiler

 

[Havok83]

Spidey is still Sony's baby and the profits for homecoming is all sony so tony is just a loan like spidy was in civil war. I can't imagine RDJ having a big part in this since this is still a spiderman movie although from what i read , sony is also going ahead with a solo venom movie that will be seperated from the reboot continuty. Not sure how that works though.

CW set Tony up to have a big part. After seeing that, I cant imagine him having a minor role.

Spoiler

He will pretty much serve as a mentor to Peter that will help train and guide him. Theres also the romance with May that was teased.

. Tony will be an integral supporting player to Homecoming. Putting Peter in CW will have been a waste if its anything less. They need to be careful though to keep his appearance as only Tony and not Iron Man. Not sure how to do that bc IM should be helping out. Maybe have Tony land in the hospital for some reason or get arrested? This way the final battle will be about Spider vs the villian on his own

 

[harryoscop]

Lets pay him $50M and not use him to his full cinematic potential?

Spoiler

We don't need to see Iron Man in Homecoming. Tony? yea, because it's set-up in Civil War and Tom has great chemistry with him. But having him show up in the suit? What would he do? Help Spidey take down his villain? nuhu

 

[JOE]

We don't need to see Iron Man in Homecoming. Tony? yea, because it's set-up in Civil War and Tom has great chemistry with him. But having him show up in the suit? What would he do? Help Spidey take down his villain? nuhu

It might not be to help Spidey take down his villain, but you can bet your avatar that he'll be in costume at some point. Quote me on it. I don't see a world where Sony pays $50M to have RDJ show up and not "suit up".

Why does Tony need to be the one helping Peter? What if Peter shows up and helps Tony?

Also, I have a strong feeling the villain will originate from Stark Industries. Any villain that has artillery could easily fit the story.

Sorry if that's not what you want to hear.

 

[StormC]

I see Iron Man getting a B-plot action piece separate from Spidey, same with Widow in IM2. I bet Cap will get something similar in BP.

 

[harryoscop]

It might not be to help Spidey take down his villain, but you can bet your avatar that he'll be in costume at some point. Quote me on it. I don't see a world where Sony pays $50M to have RDJ show up and not "suit up".

Why does Tony need to be the one helping Peter? What if Peter shows up and helps Tony?

Also, I have a strong feeling the villain will originate from Stark Industries. Any villain that has artillery could easily fit the story.

Sorry if that's not what you want to hear.

That's fine, because it's nothing more than speculation and strong assumptions.

 

[JOE]

That's fine, because it's nothing more than speculation and strong assumptions.

It may be, but I see the future of the MCU with a lot less "solo" efforts outside of origin stories. The proof is in the pudding.

Civil War: Errrrrbody but Hulk and Thor.
Dr. Strange: Origin movie, doesn't count.
Guardians of the Galaxy: Technically already a team, doesn't count.
Spider-Man Homecoming: Spider-Man and Iron Man (for now, could be more).
Thor Ragnarok: Thor and Hulk.
Black Panther: Could have Steve and or Bucky involved. (Pure speculation based on credits scene)
Ant-Man and The Wasp: Ant-Man and the Wasp, lol.

I love it.

It's silly to think these guys team up every 3 years for a big showdown then don't fight by each other's side until the next global catastrophe.

 

[harryoscop]

It may be, but I see the future of the MCU with a lot less "solo" efforts outside of origin stories. The proof is in the pudding.

Civil War: Errrrrbody but Hulk and Thor.
Dr. Strange: Origin movie, doesn't count.
Guardians of the Galaxy: Technically already a team, doesn't count.
Spider-Man Homecoming: Spider-Man and Iron Man (for now, could be more).
Thor Ragnarok: Thor and Hulk.
Black Panther: Could have Steve and or Bucky involved. (Pure speculation based on credits scene)
Ant-Man and The Wasp: Ant-Man and the Wasp, lol.

I love it.

It's silly to think these guys team up every 3 years for a big showdown then don't fight by each other's side until the next global catastrophe.

Spidey's the one character whose mythos is so vast that he doesn't need to team-up with another in his own solo films. He needs to face his own villains without help from other heroes. Now I'd understand if it was a huge-scale event film like Sinister Six, Death of Spider-Man or something like the Web of Shadows where it makes sense for not just Iron Man to show up, but this is suppose to be a smaller-scale story with personal stakes. I'd appreciate it if Marvel not inject Iron Man into the villain fight and not take the spotlight off of Spider-Man Vs. His villain.

 

[Havok83]

It's silly to think these guys team up every 3 years for a big showdown then don't fight by each other's side until the next global catastrophe.

well they dont. We dont necesarily see it, but its implied that they still team up and fight alongside each other in between movies

Spidey's the one character whose mythos is so vast that he doesn't need to team-up with another in his own solo films. He needs to face his own villains without help from other heroes. Now I'd understand if it was a huge-scale event film like Sinister Six, Death of Spider-Man or something like the Web of Shadows where it makes sense for not just Iron Man to show up, but this is suppose to be a smaller-scale story with personal stakes. I'd appreciate it if Marvel not inject Iron Man into the villain fight and not take the spotlight off of Spider-Man Vs. His villain.

really? I dont see what makes him different than Cap, Iron Man, Thor, Black Panther or pretty much any other solo hero. None of them need to team up with anyone

 

[JOE]

Spidey's the one character whose mythos is so vast that he doesn't need to team-up with another in his own solo films. He needs to face his own villains without help from other heroes. Now I'd understand if it was a huge-scale event film like Sinister Six, Death of Spider-Man or something like the Web of Shadows where it makes sense for not just Iron Man to show up, but this is suppose to be a smaller-scale story with personal stakes. I'd appreciate it if Marvel not inject Iron Man into the villain fight and not take the spotlight off of Spider-Man Vs. His villain.

Until we know the size and importance of RDJ's role we could go back and fourth on this for weeks.

Marvel has creative control with this movie. Just trust Marvel, they know what's best for the characters. They're not going to undercut Spidey to let RDJ shine. They made Spidey one of the highlights in Civil War with about 10 minutes of screen time. Imagine what they can do with an entire movie. Trust in Marvel dude, I have confidence Spidey is in good hands! Let's just wait and see.

 

[harryoscop]

well they dont. We dont necesarily see it, but its implied that they still team up and fight alongside each other in between movies



really? I dont see what makes him different than Cap, Iron Man, Thor, Black Panther or pretty much any other solo hero. None of them need to team up with anyone

Iron Man and Thor didn't in fact team up with anybody in all of their films. (unless you count Rhodey, but he's ingrained in the IM supporting cast, so I don't think he counts) Cap didn't team up with anybody in his first solo film either and I doubt Black Panther will in his solo film, But Spidey in particular has the most the best, most iconic rouges gallery in the Marvel Universe.

Until we know the size and importance of RDJ's role we could go back and fourth on this for weeks.


Marvel has creative control with this movie. Just trust Marvel, they know what's best for the characters. They're not going to undercut Spidey to let RDJ shine. They made Spidey one of the highlights in Civil War with about 10 minutes of screen time. Imagine what they can do with an entire movie. Trust in Marvel dude, I have confidence Spidey is in good hands! Let's just wait and see.

Agreed. Especially after giving us the definitive version of movie Spidey.