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Comics Am I the only one who hates this?

True, I've lost a lot of empathy for Spidey and will have none when the hammer inevitably falls. A death should have some meaning to it, make you feel for the character in some way, I have a feeling that with the majority consensus of the readers it's just gonna be like "That's what you get you stupid mother#$@#*%!". :(
 
I'll say only one thing: it may not be much, but thank god for Ultimate Spider-Man.
 
whatever dudes. its just a comic. i like spider-man. im gonna read him switch sides. im gonna enjoy it. im not gonna wish bad on someone's loved ones. even a fictional character's. plus yknow, ultimate spider-man isnt real spider-man - i hear pete might be more to people's liking, but spider-man himself sucks. gets his ass handed to him a lot. i dont wana read that (though im reading clone saga :p. thats different...)
 
Citizen_Kaine said:
True, I've lost a lot of empathy for Spidey and will have none when the hammer inevitably falls. A death should have some meaning to it, make you feel for the character in some way, I have a feeling that with the majority consensus of the readers it's just gonna be like "That's what you get you stupid mother#$@#*%!". :(
i'm like that with spidey.
 
MyPokerShirt said:
whatever dudes. its just a comic. i like spider-man. im gonna read him switch sides. im gonna enjoy it. im not gonna wish bad on someone's loved ones. even a fictional character's.
:up:
 
MyPokerShirt said:
whatever dudes. its just a comic. i like spider-man. im gonna read him switch sides. im gonna enjoy it. im not gonna wish bad on someone's loved ones. even a fictional character's. plus yknow, ultimate spider-man isnt real spider-man - i hear pete might be more to people's liking, but spider-man himself sucks. gets his ass handed to him a lot. i dont wana read that (though im reading clone saga :p. thats different...)

he might get his ass handed to him, and get unmasked, quite regularly, but that's mostly due to his inexperience. not to mention, USM feels a lot more like the real Spider-Man than 616 Spidey right now.
 
that makes no sense. how can ultimate seem like 616 when there are that many differences. i think people project their wishes onto pete. through all the wrong things he does, through all the bad storylines, people insist things arent right. peter is being consistant with the last 15 years, whether you consider that bad or good.

he's being a *****e. i can, you can, we all can (but especially darth). he'll snap out of it. he's made a mistake. he'll sort it out. he's still throwing out one-liners, trying not to fight and kickin ass.
 
MyPokerShirt said:
that makes no sense. how can ultimate seem like 616 when there are that many differences.

what I mean is that Ultimate is more in character with the original Spider-Man, the Spider-Man we all know and love, than 616 Spider-Man.

y'know, the Spidey who's actually a hero, who's not the little b!tch to some hero who's on the brink of villainy, who doesn't make an illogical choice to forget about his years and years of worrying about his loved ones and unmasking. the one whose origin is not some mystical crap.

THAT Spider-Man.

MyPokerShirt said:
i think people project their wishes onto pete. through all the wrong things he does, through all the bad storylines, people insist things arent right. peter is being consistant with the last 15 years, whether you consider that bad or good.

how is it being consistent to forget the years and years where he's worked hard to keep his identity a secret because revealing it could endanger his loved ones, specially when he's had terrible experiences because of it in the past? how is it consistent worrying that the public doesn't trust super-humans anymore when Spidey was never really completely trusted in the first place?

MyPokerShirt said:
he's being a *****e. i can, you can, we all can (but especially darth). he'll snap out of it. he's made a mistake. he'll sort it out. he's still throwing out one-liners, trying not to fight and kickin ass.

we KNOW he'll snap out of it. we KNOW something terrible is going to happen to pull him to the other side. that's exactly the problem. why do this at all when the aftermath is obvious from the promotional art alone?!

and him throwing out one-liners to Captain America as if he was just some other thug is definitely NOT right...
 
I can't believe this is happening to Spidey, really. I was telling my brother everything that has happened recently, and he thought I was making it all up. Man I wish I was that twisted and demented, but alas...
 
Citizen_Kaine said:
He not only beats up his childhood icon, but mocks him, his stance and all the others as well. And Cap throws his shield at him, because he was smacking around the Patriot. As well he takes down both Wiccan and Cloak with tranqs from behind, makes light of it, and than gives some orders to a overhead helicopter.


^^^^^^^^^
Who the **** is this *******!? This is not how Spidey should act, it is one of the biggest mischaracterizations of the character since waaaay back to the 2000 Annual, where he tries to get into MJ's pants the whole issue, a couple of days after she was kidnapped and held hostage by some lunatic

Part of me is hoping--although I know it's not the case--that "Iron Spider-Tool" (which I guess I'll call have to refer to him until Civil War is over) is either A. a mystical clone created during the Other and that the real Spider-Man is the one in that cocoon, or B. That the jerk Spider-Man from the alternate universe in the current Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man abducted him. Maybe with a little help from the
evil Uncle Ben. Yes, that's right. In this week's Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man, there's another Uncle Ben from an alternate dimension who not only kills the Uncle Ben from the jerk Spider-Man universe but also Spider-Man 2211 and apparently he's sticking around for awhile in the 616 universe. Geez my head hurts from all the sci-fi mumbo jumbo :confused:
. Either way, I say bring back the REAL Spider-Man.
 
I agree...bring back the real Spider-Man. Fast. I am glad some people can find away to enjoy this "hazy photocopy" of our hero, and totally ignore all of the blatant incidences (storylines) that are not Spider-Man's ways, or respectful of the character(s) history in the "least". Creative liberties are great, but lately writers and Joey Q. are taking puzzle pieces that do not fit and hammering them with their fists to get them into the pizzle. Even Millar said he would have had Spidey on the other side of this Civil War thingy. Anyone that "knows" Spider-Man's "character" and history would not have had him unmasking either. But, anything goes now, the farther out in left field, the better.

It's kinda like those magic 3-D art pictures...maybe if you hold your head just right you might see Spider-Man as something neato right now. I just see it as money making scheme.

IT makes everything worse too, because you know they have to correct it all. There is a difference to having well written problems...example: Pete is out of work and needs money and hobgoblin is on the loose again....eventually he is going to find a job.....and beat hobgoblin. (simplified example)

To problems where his origins are whacko ones now. 1.) Much eaiser to relate to a guy who got his powers from the magical spider totem pole.
2.) Civil War Unmasking and 3.) the side that he took. We know these are problems that are going to get reversed too, but they don't make sense to begin with no matter which way I hold my head and look at it!! IT all just doesn't matter, because eventually they'll write him more like he is and right now he is written not like himself-so there is no dramatic tension there. It is too unreal for the character.
I can't wrap my mind around it. I think maybe it is a clone...lol....but seriously i do....it is not Spider-Man obviously doing this. I can't sympathize with him this time or get into the story because it is so bizarre for the character and poorly written. I don't care to see anyone die or the character to suffer. I just don't relate to Spider-Man right now, because, i think, many of us historically have always related to him too well. We DO know how he thinks-and this just isn't it. WE KNOW IT. There isn't any grey area on this for those of us that know it. He was special. Now they're writing him like an utter moron, who gives up what's most dear to him, (secret identity) spur of the moment really, to be Iron Man's tool! Because Iron Man crafted him an Iron Octopus outfit. And because even "Aunt May" encouraged him (i know....i know....) to put everyone in danger and be the only tool unmasking on tv. Yeh,..ok....glad the writers wrote aunt may's encouragement in...that makes it so much easier to swallow. Good story or bad writing?

The writers at Marvel are the "real" bad guys now for Spidey to have to face.....not Shield/Gov't/Green Goblin.....I hope he can survive this battle....they've wrote him as a moron who doesn't think anything like he has ever thought. You can't just pound any puzzle piece into any shape you want, to force it to fit. It is obvious why so many fans are mad. Despite some well written posts to the contrary side, (and some not so) I am clueless as to how some enjoy it and see it as "Spider-Man". Still...Spidey is my favorite character and I hope he returns soon. I want to be able to read some exciting, creative, and fun stories like I always have. Been happily collecting since the 70's until couple years back when they didn't care about any of our runs anymore and starting series over again was the thing to do. Swell ideas all over the place!
 
I'm really not angry about it anymore. Spider-Man was killed in FNSM#3 while defending his wife from a madman, and I have yet to see him return from the grave. So, IMHO, this is not Spider-Man anymore. Or, at least, not the Spider-Man I know.

First off, the unmasking, for all those enjoying it's subsequent concequences, is just another shock gimmick. That's all. We will now get to live through some "exciting" storylines as Spider-Man's life unravels, and things fall apart. Big whoop. I read all of this before in Daredevil, and it was handled far more gracefully there.

My question is, what happens in a year or two when this (VERY SHALLOW) well has run dry? Do they attempt to put this genie back in the bottle as all the "noob" fans leave for new "shocking" stories? Or, do they keep going with it, expecting us to believe that Peter can have any semblance of a normal life now that the most dangerous and most insane foes in the Marvel universe Know who he really is.

Sorry, but MJ and Aunt May would both be executed on national television before Spider-Man could even make it back to his room from the press conference. OCK...RODERICK KINGSLEY...Chameleon...Electro...Sandman...Hydroman...Shocker...

Good luck stopping those guys...especially with the "Avengers Lite"! Hell, Hydroman alone could get into Avengers tower via the water lines, and drown Aunt May and MJ before Peter even made it back up.

The only question I have is this: How long before they retcon it away?

You know it's coming.
 
JackBauer said:
I'll say only one thing: it may not be much, but thank god for Ultimate Spider-Man.

It's not much, but it's all we have.:(
 
Well, maybe Stark implanted some kind of mind control device into Peter's suit that's manipulating him into doing all this... Yeah... I'm desperate for a way out.


Anyway, my other BIG problem with this is that they're essentially making Tony Stark into this evil manipulative sob. He's friggen Iron Man for God's Sake!!!
 
Upset Spideyfan said:
Well, maybe Stark implanted some kind of mind control device into Peter's suit that's manipulating him into doing all this... Yeah... I'm desperate for a way out.

know what's worst? I can actually see Marvel pulling something like that.. :(
 
I think whats worse is that Marvel wont do that and its Spidey acting on his own :(
 
Nebins said:
Does anyone else hate how Pete acted in the new issue of Civil War.

He went from not wanting to fight any of his old friends and feeling lied to and manipulated in the last issue to going all gung ho about it and taunting everyone. It was a complete 180. I hated it
I got that same impression also. And I also disliked it. He did seem like he totally changed his attitude about the situation. Although I did get a kick out of his "butt-kicking button" line.
 
ragingdemon155 said:
That's exactly how I feel right now at the moment.

I need to read some back issues to get my love for the character back.lol

But yea, I don't really care for what happens to Spider-man at the moment.

Sell out!:spidey: :(
Geeze people... I just have to defend the webhead here for a second. How is he a sell out?

[SIZE=-1]Broadly speaking, a "sell out" refers to the compromising of one's integrity in exchange for money or other personal gain...

[/SIZE]For Peter to be a "sell out" he would have to have knowingly compromised his integrity for selfish reasons, which is clearly NOT the case. It also implies that the sides of this issue are clearly defined as right and wrong, which is also NOT the case.

He obviously thinks he's on the right side (there are lots of compelling arguments FOR this side IMO) and the others will come around with reason. He doesn't want to fight them... but remember... he once told MJ they ALL calculate how they could defeat each other should the need ever arise...
 
I dont think Spidey is a sell out, I just dont like the way he's talking to Cap and being Iron Mans *****. He may have joined Iron Mans side for the right reasons, I just dont think its the right side. But as has been said, there is no real right or wrong side in this Civil War which is actually what makes it interesting. Its the characterisation of Spidey that I dont like.
 
I don't think he's a sell-out. I think he's a moron.
 
Happenstance said:
I dont think Spidey is a sell out, I just dont like the way he's talking to Cap and being Iron Mans *****. He may have joined Iron Mans side for the right reasons, I just dont think its the right side. But as has been said, there is no real right or wrong side in this Civil War which is actually what makes it interesting. Its the characterisation of Spidey that I dont like.

I find it funny that the writers keep shoving that argument down our throats, all the while making it perfectly clear that the pro-registration side is the one we should be rooting against.
 
Captivated said:
Geeze people... I just have to defend the webhead here for a second. How is he a sell out?

[SIZE=-1]Broadly speaking, a "sell out" refers to the compromising of one's integrity in exchange for money or other personal gain...

[/SIZE]For Peter to be a "sell out" he would have to have knowingly compromised his integrity for selfish reasons, which is clearly NOT the case. It also implies that the sides of this issue are clearly defined as right and wrong, which is also NOT the case.

He obviously thinks he's on the right side (there are lots of compelling arguments FOR this side IMO) and the others will come around with reason. He doesn't want to fight them... but remember... he once told MJ they ALL calculate how they could defeat each other should the need ever arise...

The way he spoke to Captain America was completely out of character. Spider-man would never do that, not to him. He talked to him like he was a simple thug. Then he was giving orders to "Sheild agents". Come on now.

Mark Miller already stated that he didn't want to unmask Peter and have Peter be on this side.

It just doesn't make any sense.

From the moment Spider-man opened his mouth in Civil War #3 he was out of character. By the time something bad happens to him most fans are going to be like "meh, don't care" cause it just doesn't feel like Spider-man.
 
JackBauer said:
I find it funny that the writers keep shoving that argument down our throats, all the while making it perfectly clear that the pro-registration side is the one we should be rooting against.

I think the problem is that the pro registration side do have a good point in the fact of registering heroes but they are being written badly so they do seem more like villians at the moment.
 
Happenstance said:
I think the problem is that the pro registration side do have a good point in the fact of registering heroes but they are being written badly so they do seem more like villians at the moment.

I agree, both sides have arguments to be made.

But Iron Man, Spider-man and company are being written off like villians. It's so obvious that Marvel wants us to root for Caps side. Now, I can't beleive that I'm hoping my favorite character gets put down in this series or at least gets some sense knocked into him.
 

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