Comics Am I the only one who hates this?

[JackBauer]

I think the problem is that the pro registration side do have a good point in the fact of registering heroes but they are being written badly so they do seem more like villians at the moment.

the problem is that Millar can't help but impose his political stance into his comics. it's been so with The Ultimates, and now it's happening to Civil War.

I do agree that the pro-registration side has a good point, but they're just going about it the wrong way.

and here's another thing that bugs me about the way Spidey's being written: Tony's main point is that people have to trust super-humans again. why would that be SUCH a big deal to Peter, enough for him to unmask, when Spidey has never been that trusted in the first place?!

it just doesn't make sense. nothing about Spidey's actions make sense.

 

[daveswb]

Are we forgetting who all this stuff is really a slap in the face to? Stan "The Man" Lee. Spider-man and Spidey's universe was his creation. And the FF and many others. Look at waht Marvel is doing to it?

He created a world where there was a great bit of conflict in this young man's life. And a large amount of it centered around Peter's double life. Working for a man that hated spider-man yet he buys Peter's pictures, because they sell papers. Having an older sickly mother figure that worries about him so much, that the strain of her knowing her nephew leads such a dangerous life may kill her. This guy that has the weight of the world on his shoulders, but also has an ordinary life he has to live as well. And then save New York countless times with no reward.

Stan set up the classic tragic figure andthe perfect world for him to live in. Now Marvel is destroying that world he created. That's what is wrong with all this!

This is why Rowling (or how ever her name is spelled) is toying with the idea of killing off harry in the 7th book!

 

[MyPokerShirt]

what I mean is that Ultimate is more in character with the original Spider-Man, the Spider-Man we all know and love, than 616 Spider-Man.

y'know, the Spidey who's actually a hero, who's not the little b!tch to some hero who's on the brink of villainy, who doesn't make an illogical choice to forget about his years and years of worrying about his loved ones and unmasking. the one whose origin is not some mystical crap.

THAT Spider-Man.



how is it being consistent to forget the years and years where he's worked hard to keep his identity a secret because revealing it could endanger his loved ones, specially when he's had terrible experiences because of it in the past? how is it consistent worrying that the public doesn't trust super-humans anymore when Spidey was never really completely trusted in the first place?



we KNOW he'll snap out of it. we KNOW something terrible is going to happen to pull him to the other side. that's exactly the problem. why do this at all when the aftermath is obvious from the promotional art alone?!

and him throwing out one-liners to Captain America as if he was just some other thug is definitely NOT right...

cap was a bit of a cock in cw3 though. it really depends on your current opinions of the characters, but i think the situation was caps fault. he shuda given tony 5minutes at least. maybe then somebody cuda woke up cloak or wiccan at least. now he's in deep.

 

[JackBauer]

cap was a bit of a cock in cw3 though. it really depends on your current opinions of the characters, but i think the situation was caps fault. he shuda given tony 5minutes at least. maybe then somebody cuda woke up cloak or wiccan at least. now he's in deep.

thing is, Cap had absolutely no reason to trust Tony then. he'd been hunting them down like they were the bad guys, led them to a trap and knocked out two members of Cap's team before anyone said anything.

if Tony wanted simply to talk to Cap for 5 minutes, he could very well have found other, less aggressive means. if Tony REALLY wanted to just talk and reach an understanding, he would've found a way to contact Cap and arranged a meeting between the two of them.

but even then, with the way Tony's been acting, Cap would have little reason to trust him.

 

[ragingdemon155]

cap was a bit of a cock in cw3 though. it really depends on your current opinions of the characters, but i think the situation was caps fault. he shuda given tony 5minutes at least. maybe then somebody cuda woke up cloak or wiccan at least. now he's in deep.

Some people actually think that Cap "threw" the first punch.

- Iron Man sets up a childish trap to lure Captain America's team in.

- Surrounds Captain America.

- Spider-man is making sure that all Shield troops are in position with SNIPER RIFLES to take them down.

- Iron Man attacks Cloak and Wiccan with the tranqs.

This is BEFORE Cap and his team do ANYTHING at all.

Also for those who actually think Cap attacked Spider-man first. Spider-man was attacking one of the young avengers. Cap was helping the kid out.

Also judging from the "gun ho" fighting personality that Spider-man had in this issue. He might have killed the kid. lol

 

[Happenstance]

This is why I really dont like Spideys characterisation in this, yeah he tries to talk Cap out of it initially but he does also seem way too content to be in this situation and taking on the hero he idolizes more than any other.

 

[RAMORE]

i can't believe how bad this is all getting

 

[JackBauer]

something tells me it's actually going to get worse...

 

[farmernudie]

Good thing MJ isn't a super-hero with powers or else I could just see Joey Q. and crew putting her on Cap's side....and having more "shock and awe" for dollars by having Spidey slap her around too and coordinating shield hitmen for the shot to take down his wife. Wouldn't that have been shocking!!?

They coulda made a few more short term fans with Spidey vs. MJ....too bad they didn't think of that early enough. New costume, new personality, new origin, new powers, no secret identity, wife beater.
Someone missed the boat and should be fired.

 

[Themanofbat]

...then he goes on to attack Daredevil???

Come on now...DAREDEVIL!?!?!

I'm sorry...Spider-man was so out of character in that battle.

Spider-man has always been defined as the underdog willing to stand up for his beliefs no matter what. He always held his secret identity close to him. He guarded it with his life. He sold out with that and turned his back on Captain America. A man he constantly describes as a "true hero".

That's not Spider-man.

You people act like he's up DareDevil's ass with all the utmost respect, when in reality, they've fought numerous times... sometimes when an enemy has control of one, but more often than not it was willingly.

Remember these Marvel classics?

It's not the first time two men have fought nor will it be the last... and Spidey was acting more passive in Civil War #3 then you people would make it out to be. Which would make sense to me, as he really doesn't want to fight these heroes.

I'm not an expert, but when you really read this stuff and trying to understand the reasons why events have happened, Spidey's characterization makes sense to me.

Just my 2 cents...

 

[SpideyInATree]

The fact that Peter unmasked himself to the whole world. Thats what made him interesting him struggling to live a double life. Now he's gonna be the friggin Hulk. Damn it JMS!!! I loved you and supported you when Aunt May find out Petes secret. Then Mourlun who looked like Morbius but clean. Those were the good ol days remember Amazing Spider-man# 30 - 37? Then The wonderful creation of Ezekeial who I loved then you created that moth girl or whatever. Gwen Stacey children factor I liked alot, Pete movin in with the Avengers wasnt bad. Then you killed Spidey and everything went North. (meanin bad) You gave him a new suit. BUT WHY UNMASK him to the country?!?!?! Ok it works great with DD because the world thinks Matt Murdock is DD. Damn it! You guys I hope Doc Strange pulls a superman and turns the world back a few days before Pete unmask himself. That will be beautiful.

You've come to the right message board if you didn't want to be alone anymore on your opinion.

I'm the one who is alone here.

 

[farmernudie]

Ah yes, I've got most of those issues....I don't see it out of character personally for Spider-Man to battle DD at all, per say.

Just see his actions in general to be out of character in Civil War so far (And his own comics)....but not for fighting Daredevil of all people, as being anythig odd or out of the norm.

 

[SpideyInATree]

It's not the first time two men have fought nor will it be the last... and Spidey was acting more passive in Civil War #3 then you people would make it out to be. Which would make sense to me, as he really doesn't want to fight these heroes.

I'm not an expert, but when you really read this stuff and trying to understand the reasons why events have happened, Spidey's characterization makes sense to me.

Just my 2 cents...

I feel the same way and have been saying Peter Parker's characterization has been well handled through this entire unmasking.

 

[Kevin]

You've come to the right message board if you didn't want to be alone anymore on your opinion.

I'm the one who is alone here.

WHAT ARE YOU TALKING 'BOUT?!? i always got your back.

 

[SpideyInATree]

WHAT ARE YOU TALKING 'BOUT?!? i always got your back.

Do you like the unmasking? I saw you bashing it in another thread.

 

[Kevin]

i like where it's going because i got over five minutes after i found out about it

 

[hrk83]

i hate marvel for doing this, spiderman has been with me al the way and to see him become the way his is now just plain saddens me it might sound over the top be it ture. it s**ts me

 

[3dman27]

Spoiler

Spider-man would have never turned his back on Captain America and Daredevil. Iron Man talks about "not wanting to fight" yet throws the first punch by setting up this childish trap and taking down 2 of Cap's teammates with cheap shots. Then Spider-man goes on to actually mock Captain America like Cap is a regular thug. Through out the years, Spider-man has made it clear over and over that he respects Cap more then any man. He looks up to him. This was not Spider-man at all. I won't even get started on Spider-man attacking Daredevil. That was even worse.

maybe this reborn rebirth buisness messed up pete's mind

 

[SpideyInATree]

it s**ts me

It WHAT?!

Man, nothing is worse than when a comic book event actually ****s you. That's some powerful stuff.

 

[spideydave]

Looks like Im only gunna read Ultimate Spidey and hopefully Bendis wont **** that up! Venom Carnage were a bit flat so lets up the ante!

 

[hrk83]

i agree with u spideydave.

 

[trapjaw]

Looks like Im only gunna read Ultimate Spidey and hopefully Bendis wont **** that up! Venom Carnage were a bit flat so lets up the ante!

Ultimate Spidey is not that good in my opinion.

 

[Captivated]

Not sure where to post this... but here's another guy who hates what's happening. An interesting blog.
http://www.sequart.com/news/index.php?story=1336

 

[ragingdemon155]

Ultimate Spidey is not that good in my opinion.

Ultimate Spidey is easily better then 616 Spidey at the moment.

 

[Marc]

Ultimate Spidey is easily better then 616 Spidey at the moment.

Not exactly something to boast about though.

Ultimate Spidey really doesn't work for me, tried to like it but can't. I don't really like Bendis' writing fullstop but something doesn't sit right with ultimate for me.