Comics Amazing Spider-Man #555

[iloveclones]

Got this yesterday, so I thought I'd kick this one off (standard Captain Stacy rules apply!)

I really, really don't like Bachalo. Most times his art looks like he threw everything into a blender, and threw the product on page. But it looked nice here, with only one or two exceptions. I don't have a lot of hope for the rest of the story, considering he'll be drawing similar looking villains....in a snowstorm. It sounds like an assignment to take advantage of his weaknesses. But so far so good. Bachalo works best with a very linear story, and a limited amount of characters that you can clearly distinguish (hard to confuse Spidey, Wolvie, and Doc Strange)

The writing is very snappy, and with another artist, I'd probably be raving about this issue. Great interplay between Spidey, Wolvie, Doc Strange. More nice moments between Pete and DB and Betty.

One last note: if you've read the preview, you know that it takes place in Doc's Sanctum Sanctorum, which puts Spidey in the Black Suit, not the red and blues shown. The reason: a scheduling gaffe. They intended BND to be coming out earlier, and fit the stories into the (then) current events of NA. This is all explained on the letters page, with an appeal to the readers to try and win a no-prize fixing it. So get to it, guys!

 

[moraldeficiency]

Looked it over yesterday. Not too bad. I like Bachalo, not the best artist ever, but I think he's pretty solid. The dialogue was excellent and wolverine didn't seem too out of place, though it's still jarring and to hear him critize the "unknown" avenger about teamwork? That was more funny sad and ironic than quirky. The preview impressed me more than the issue as a whole, but maybe that will change. All and all a pretty solid effort but nothing mind boggling, new or unique.

One last note: if you've read the preview, you know that it takes place in Doc's Sanctum Sanctorum, which puts Spidey in the Black Suit, not the red and blues shown. The reason: a scheduling gaffe. They intended BND to be coming out earlier, and fit the stories into the (then) current events of NA. This is all explained on the letters page, with an appeal to the readers to try and win a no-prize fixing it. So get to it, guys!

^that terrifies me on just so many levels.^

 

[Kirk Langstrom]

Looked it over yesterday. Not too bad. I like Bachalo, not the best artist ever, but I think he's pretty solid. The dialogue was excellent and wolverine didn't seem too out of place, though it's still jarring and to hear him critize the "unknown" avenger about teamwork? That was more funny sad and ironic than quirky. The preview impressed me more than the issue as a whole, but maybe that will change. All and all a pretty solid effort but nothing mind boggling, new or unique.



^that terrifies me on just so many levels.^

I got one; The black suit was dirty, so he used the red and blues for a day.

 

[Parker756]

His red and blue costume made a deal with the devil with The Spot to save his Aunt Iron Spider Costume from overexposure!

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

I can't wait for this Issue!

 

[Donald Thomas]

Got this yesterday, so I thought I'd kick this one off (standard Captain Stacy rules apply!)

I really, really don't like Bachalo. Most times his art looks like he threw everything into a blender, and threw the product on page. But it looked nice here, with only one or two exceptions. I don't have a lot of hope for the rest of the story, considering he'll be drawing similar looking villains....in a snowstorm. It sounds like an assignment to take advantage of his weaknesses. But so far so good. Bachalo works best with a very linear story, and a limited amount of characters that you can clearly distinguish (hard to confuse Spidey, Wolvie, and Doc Strange)

The writing is very snappy, and with another artist, I'd probably be raving about this issue. Great interplay between Spidey, Wolvie, Doc Strange. More nice moments between Pete and DB and Betty.

One last note: if you've read the preview, you know that it takes place in Doc's Sanctum Sanctorum, which puts Spidey in the Black Suit, not the red and blues shown. The reason: a scheduling gaffe. They intended BND to be coming out earlier, and fit the stories into the (then) current events of NA. This is all explained on the letters page, with an appeal to the readers to try and win a no-prize fixing it. So get to it, guys!

Aloha,
I just started my subscription with Marvel for Spidey. #553 came today.I hope I catch up to you-soon!
Spidey rules

 

[Themanofbat]

I just got it... not bad at all...

I'm not a fan of Bachalo's art, but it worked well for me in this issue, and Zeb Wells' snappy Spidey banter was spot on...

 

[stillanerd]

One last note: if you've read the preview, you know that it takes place in Doc's Sanctum Sanctorum, which puts Spidey in the Black Suit, not the red and blues shown. The reason: a scheduling gaffe. They intended BND to be coming out earlier, and fit the stories into the (then) current events of NA. This is all explained on the letters page, with an appeal to the readers to try and win a no-prize fixing it. So get to it, guys!

Well, that makes some sense. If I remember correctly, One More Day was supposed to a precursor to Marvel having Amazing Spider-Man's current weekly format and that ASM #545 was supposed to be out around the end of September or October, with ASM #546 coming out soon after. So this current arc should have been around January or February of this year rather than April.

As for my "No-Prize" attempt, well, we could say that One More Day took place a week after Back in Black's Kingpin arc, in which we get Mephisto's magical marriage annulment. Everything else in Back in Black happens during afterwards with Aunt May still recovering in the hospital, but still alive. Spidey is dresses in his Black Costume because, being wanted by the police, needs night-time camoflauge to prevent him from standing out, and to help him hide from the cops. Then, sometime after the events of Back in Black, we get Avengers: Initiative #7, in which we get the Scarlet Spiders "revealing" that Peter Parker was one of their operatives, that his powers came from his costume, and was never really Spider-Man in the first place (this is how Mephisto made it possible for MJ wanting Peter's secret identity restored). Because of this, Peter decides to lay low for awhile, just so he can throw any lingering suspicion off himself completely. During this time, Aunt May recovers and Peter takes her home and stays with her. This is also the same time MJ breaks up with him. Three months later, the events of Brand New Day take place. Sometime after Brand New Day's fourth arc, Peter goes on his mission to Japan with the New Avengers, dressed in his Black Costume because he needed something stealthy and less flashy to be fighting the Hand. Everything else we've seen in New Avengers proceeds from there.

 

[Donald Thomas]

Well, that makes some sense. If I remember correctly, One More Day was supposed to a precursor to Marvel having Amazing Spider-Man's current weekly format and that ASM #545 was supposed to be out around the end of September or October, with ASM #546 coming out soon after. So this current arc should have been around January or February of this year rather than April.

As for my "No-Prize" attempt, well, we could say that One More Day took place a week after Back in Black's Kingpin arc, in which we get Mephisto's magical marriage annulment. Everything else in Back in Black happens during afterwards with Aunt May still recovering in the hospital, but still alive. Spidey is dresses in his Black Costume because, being wanted by the police, needs night-time camoflauge to prevent him from standing out, and to help him hide from the cops. Then, sometime after the events of Back in Black, we get Avengers: Initiative #7, in which we get the Scarlet Spiders "revealing" that Peter Parker was one of their operatives, that his powers came from his costume, and was never really Spider-Man in the first place (this is how Mephisto made it possible for MJ wanting Peter's secret identity restored). Because of this, Peter decides to lay low for awhile, just so he can throw any lingering suspicion off himself completely. During this time, Aunt May recovers and Peter takes her home and stays with her. This is also the same time MJ breaks up with him. Three months later, the events of Brand New Day take place. Sometime after Brand New Day's fourth arc, Peter goes on his mission to Japan with the New Avengers, dressed in his Black Costume because he needed something stealthy and less flashy to be fighting the Hand. Everything else we've seen in New Avengers proceeds from there.

Aloha,
Works for me.Now send it into Marvel.com
Spidey rules with creative fans

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

Yesterday, I picked up this Issue and I thought it was very enjoyable. I really liked how Spidey was eating fruit loots at the beginning of the Issue, That was pure Spidey. Also, I really enjoyed all of the battles and wisecracks Peter made. When Spidey didn't want to kill that Villian, but Wolverine did, it just showed how different they really are, which I found very interesting. The ending of the Issue where Spidey is walking off into the blizzard really was great. So overall, it's another great Issue and I can't wait for ASM Issue #556.

 

[Donald Thomas]

Aloha,
Thanks to my spidey angel named Cyberswipe, I've been able to keep up with the issues on time.Regarding issue #555.
What does it say about a Spider-Man comic book that you enjoy reading,get a chuckle out of and look forward to the next part.............?
Spidey rules

 

[Dangerous]

In my grip I possess ASM#555, I'll read tonight and post thoughts at some point.
Of what I have seen so far, I really dig Bachalo's art.

 

[wolvie2020]

In my grip I possess ASM#555, I'll read tonight and post thoughts at some point.
Of what I have seen so far, I really dig Bachalo's art.

I've loves Bachalo's art for AGES, he's got a very unique voice, and he's very versatile

 

[mre]

Aloha,
Thanks to my spidey angel named Cyberswipe, I've been able to keep up with the issues on time.Regarding issue #555.
What does it say about a Spider-Man comic book that you enjoy reading,get a chuckle out of and look forward to the next part.............?
Spidey rules

Why was Spidey at Doc Stranges house anyways? He's having breakfast, so naturally I would assume he stayed over night there.... Does he sleep in his costume too? How does he keep his identity secret if he is somewhat living there?
Also, I used to be a fan of Bachelo's art, but I do not think it suites Spidey at all. Especially compared to the art we have seen so far in BND.

 

[MyPokerShirt]

Well, that makes some sense. If I remember correctly, One More Day was supposed to a precursor to Marvel having Amazing Spider-Man's current weekly format and that ASM #545 was supposed to be out around the end of September or October, with ASM #546 coming out soon after. So this current arc should have been around January or February of this year rather than April.

As for my "No-Prize" attempt, well, we could say that One More Day took place a week after Back in Black's Kingpin arc, in which we get Mephisto's magical marriage annulment. Everything else in Back in Black happens during afterwards with Aunt May still recovering in the hospital, but still alive. Spidey is dresses in his Black Costume because, being wanted by the police, needs night-time camoflauge to prevent him from standing out, and to help him hide from the cops. Then, sometime after the events of Back in Black, we get Avengers: Initiative #7, in which we get the Scarlet Spiders "revealing" that Peter Parker was one of their operatives, that his powers came from his costume, and was never really Spider-Man in the first place (this is how Mephisto made it possible for MJ wanting Peter's secret identity restored). Because of this, Peter decides to lay low for awhile, just so he can throw any lingering suspicion off himself completely. During this time, Aunt May recovers and Peter takes her home and stays with her. This is also the same time MJ breaks up with him. Three months later, the events of Brand New Day take place. Sometime after Brand New Day's fourth arc, Peter goes on his mission to Japan with the New Avengers, dressed in his Black Costume because he needed something stealthy and less flashy to be fighting the Hand. Everything else we've seen in New Avengers proceeds from there.

What?? Didn't you just change the whole OMD/BND/Mephisto storyarc?? That isnt the point of a no-prize! You're supposed to say how it could happen in continuity. Have I missed a trick here? After OMD isn't it said that Aunt May was never in the hospital, coz she was never shot, coz pete never unmasked. So it cannot be in your No-Prize explanation.

 

[MyPokerShirt]

Why was Spidey at Doc Stranges house anyways? He's having breakfast, so naturally I would assume he stayed over night there.... Does he sleep in his costume too? How does he keep his identity secret if he is somewhat living there?
Also, I used to be a fan of Bachelo's art, but I do not think it suites Spidey at all. Especially compared to the art we have seen so far in BND.

You cannot hind your identity from the sorcerer supreme and a man who can identify you from smell, so why we're supposed to believe pete would even bother i don't know...

 

[Themanofbat]

You cannot hind your identity from the sorcerer supreme and a man who can identify you from smell, so why we're supposed to believe pete would even bother i don't know...

Dr.Strange has too much respect for Spider-Man to invade his privacy like that, and Wolverine would only know Pete is Spider-Man by encountering Peter Parker, which I don't believe he has since OMD.

He would have forgotten ny encounters prior to that.

 

[Donald Thomas]

Dr.Strange has too much respect for Spider-Man to invade his privacy like that, and Wolverine would only know Pete is Spider-Man by encountering Peter Parker, which I don't believe he has since OMD.

He would have forgotten ny encounters prior to that.

Aloha,
When Dr. Strange first met Spider-Man in Annual #2, he never attempted to discover his identity.There would be no reason for him to do it now.Since Everyone has had a mind wipe regarding Spidey's identity, then even though Wolverine remembers their encounters such as with Charley(whom Spidey killed btw), he also does not know Peter is Spidey.As soon as either Wolverine or Daredevil come into contact with both Peter Parker /or Spider-Man, they both will immediately know they are one in the same. Which means we may not see that happen for a while just to keep the concept of no one knowing who Spidey is alive for a while.I'm glad to see Spidey the Avenger coming into BND.But also the way it's being presented is that Spidey is still a loner who has his own life to lead.
Spidey rules

 

[Donald Thomas]

Why was Spidey at Doc Stranges house anyways? He's having breakfast, so naturally I would assume he stayed over night there.... Does he sleep in his costume too? How does he keep his identity secret if he is somewhat living there?
Also, I used to be a fan of Bachelo's art, but I do not think it suites Spidey at all. Especially compared to the art we have seen so far in BND.

Aloha,
It would appear that this is a part of a New Avengers event.The way it was presented in this issue,Spidey has his own life and participates with the NA when he can. He references Skrulls in his conversation but he also talks like someone whose living his own seperate life.I saw him more like coming in early in the morning say before dawn after patroling and getting some breakfast since "Aunt May dosen't have the Fun cereal".I didn't hate the art but I would say it's my least favorite.The most cartoony of any so far within BND.
Spidey rules

 

[stillanerd]

What?? Didn't you just change the whole OMD/BND/Mephisto storyarc?? That isnt the point of a no-prize! You're supposed to say how it could happen in continuity. Have I missed a trick here? After OMD isn't it said that Aunt May was never in the hospital, coz she was never shot, coz pete never unmasked. So it cannot be in your No-Prize explanation.

But if she was never shot then there would be no need for Spidey to make the deal with Mephisto, now would there? Otherwise, you would have a paradox in that how can Mephisto save Aunt May and annul Peter and MJ's marriage if she never was shot to begin with? Besides, Mephisto told Peter and MJ that he would restore Aunt May's health, break up Peter and MJ, and that Peter's secret identity would be restored, but he never said HOW or WHEN it would happen... Okay, yeah, it's a huge stretch, but hey! If Madgoblin can come up with a theory that says Gwen had sex with Norman Osborn sometime between ASM #61 and ASM #62 and it ends up becoming Marvel's official explanation for the continuity gaffs from [blackout]Sins Past[/blackout] (even though in the actual story it's implied it happened sometime between ASM#116 to ASM #118 because those issues were reprints) then why can't I try it. I say that what happened in Back in Black during Friendly Neighborhood and Sensational happen after OMD and before BND and everything in New Avengers is after BND--just like how flashbacks and flashforwards work in Lost--and I'm sticking to it if only so my head won't explode from the massive cluster**** Marvel did to continuity. So there!

 

[Donald Thomas]

But if she was never shot then there would be no need for Spidey to make the deal with Mephisto, now would there? Otherwise, you would have a paradox in that how can Mephisto save Aunt May and annul Peter and MJ's marriage if she never was shot to begin with? Besides, Mephisto told Peter and MJ that he would restore Aunt May's health, break up Peter and MJ, and that Peter's secret identity would be restored, but he never said HOW or WHEN it would happen... Okay, yeah, it's a huge stretch, but hey! If Madgoblin can come up with a theory that says Gwen had sex with Norman Osborn sometime between ASM #61 and ASM #62 and it ends up becoming Marvel's official explanation for the continuity gaffs from [blackout]Sins Past[/blackout] (even though in the actual story it's implied it happened sometime between ASM#116 to ASM #118 because those issues were reprints) then why can't I try it. I say that what happened in Back in Black during Friendly Neighborhood and Sensational happen after OMD and before BND and everything in New Avengers is after BND--just like how flashbacks and flashforwards work in Lost--and I'm sticking to it if only so my head won't explode from the massive cluster**** Marvel did to continuity. So there!

Aloha,
Yes, Madgoblin came closer than anyone so far in making sense out of what many would call nonesense. You my man, have at least taken the flash forward and back approach which helps in trying to make sense of these continuity gaffs.If I'm reading you right, then the FNSM and SSM are Untold Tales events that even though they were published during OMD didn't really happen until afterwards. Now explain to me again how New Avengers events took place after BND.If all of the NA events with Spidey took place after BND, then we just have to accept that any reference to Spidey as Peter in NA was mind wiped from the NA.HEAD ON anyone?
Spidey rules because continuity is sacred and MUST BE preserved at all cost

 

[stillanerd]

Aloha,
Yes, Madgoblin came closer than anyone so far in making sense out of what many would call nonesense. You my man, have at least taken the flash forward and back approach which helps in trying to make sense of these continuity gaffs. If I'm reading you right, then the FNSM and SSM are Untold Tales events that even though they were published during OMD didn't really happen until afterwards.

Exactly.

Now explain to me again how New Avengers events took place after BND.If all of the NA events with Spidey took place after BND, then we just have to accept that any reference to Spidey as Peter in NA was mind wiped from the NA. HEAD ON anyone?
Spidey rules because continuity is sacred and MUST BE preserved at all cost

Yeah, this is a bit a snag (okay a really big one) but I figure that all the New Avengers events from NA #27 on have to have taken place after BND, or at least sometime after the current issue of Amazing Spider-Man. That's because, as ASM #555 shows, there's Spidey eating Fruit Loops in the Sanctum Sanctatorum with Wolverine, and Doctor Strange comes in to give his weather forecast (great scene). However, as shown in the New Avengers Annual, Strange was injured in his battle with the Hood, and was forced to quit the team to recuperate; furthermore, the New Avengers couldn't use the Sanctum Sanctatorum as a safe house anymore because Strange's magic was so weak by that point. Considering that every story from New Avengers #27 on has lead directly from one story into the next without any real breaks (The Hand arc, the Hood making a bid for power, the symbiote bomb, etc.) and because this current arc in BND leads directly from last month's Freak arc, so far, everything in BND, logically, has to take place before New Avengers #27 at least.

As for how the New Avengers would know Peter is Spidey AFTER Mephisto restored his secret identity? Well, perhaps prior to going to Japan, Spidey volunteered to disclose his identity to them to ensure they could trust him (after all, they would still remember him switching sides during Civil War) and perhaps this took place in an as yet unrevealed scene between the current story we see in ASM and NA #27.

Also, when we see MJ visting Jessica and her and Luke's baby, that could take place sometime during or shortly after Dan Slott's next arc in which, if the rumors are true, MJ returns from L.A. to visit. Perhaps, considering how she dated Peter and would thus already know about the New Avengers, perhaps she also knew that's where they were staying (and perhaps maybe she thought she would run into Peter, but of course, he was over in Japan at that point). Well, that's the best I can come up with.

 

[Donald Thomas]

Exactly.



Yeah, this is a bit a snag (okay a really big one) but I figure that all the New Avengers events from NA #27 on have to have taken place after BND, or at least sometime after the current issue of Amazing Spider-Man. That's because, as ASM #555 shows, there's Spidey eating Fruit Loops in the Sanctum Sanctatorum with Wolverine, and Doctor Strange comes in to give his weather forecast (great scene). However, as shown in the New Avengers Annual, Strange was injured in his battle with the Hood, and was forced to quit the team to recuperate; furthermore, the New Avengers couldn't use the Sanctum Sanctatorum as a safe house anymore because Strange's magic was so weak by that point. Considering that every story from New Avengers #27 on has lead directly from one story into the next without any real breaks (The Hand arc, the Hood making a bid for power, the symbiote bomb, etc.) and because this current arc in BND leads directly from last month's Freak arc, so far, everything in BND, logically, has to take place before New Avengers #27 at least.

As for how the New Avengers would know Peter is Spidey AFTER Mephisto restored his secret identity? Well, perhaps prior to going to Japan, Spidey volunteered to disclose his identity to them to ensure they could trust him (after all, they would still remember him switching sides during Civil War) and perhaps this took place in an as yet unrevealed scene between the current story we see in ASM and NA #27.

Also, when we see MJ visting Jessica and her and Luke's baby, that could take place sometime during or shortly after Dan Slott's next arc in which, if the rumors are true, MJ returns from L.A. to visit. Perhaps, considering how she dated Peter and would thus already know about the New Avengers, perhaps she also knew that's where they were staying (and perhaps maybe she thought she would run into Peter, but of course, he was over in Japan at that point). Well, that's the best I can come up with.

Aloha,
In NA #28,30,32 and 34 Spidey reveals his entire face to the team, so your timeline needs to be adjusted a bit.In #38 he's wearing the red and blue costume, so work on this and get back to us. You're making plenty of sense.
Spidey rules

 

[SpideyForPrez]

I think this the arc that'll get me to drop ASM. Not anything against the art or writing. But BND had it's chance with me and this confusion with the time line is too much for me to try and like it anymore.

 

[Themanofbat]

I think this the arc that'll get me to drop ASM. Not anything against the art or writing. But BND had it's chance with me and this confusion with the time line is too much for me to try and like it anymore.

What's so confusing about it? It's going on as is... and the costume/Dr.Strange thing was an error in delays, as explained in the letter's page...