Comics Amazing Spider-Man #584 -- Character Assassination part 1 (spoilers)

[stillanerd]

Since I didn't see a thread on this yet and I figured some would be interested, here's a rundown on the issue:

Spoiler

It begins with two television reporters (and thus having Guggenheim borrow one of Frank Miller's storytelling techniques from the Dark Knight Returns) discussing the mayoral election and how Crowne's apparent tough stance on the Spider-Tracer killings have hurt Hollister's standings in the polls.

Next we show the Shocker and Boomerang debate the importance of voting-- even if one is a supervillian--as they head to the Bookie to collect their winnings on the Captain America/Batroc fight (and thus having Guggenheim borrow from an ongoing story from one of Marvel's more critically acclaimed comics) when they find (GASP!) that the Bookie is dead.

Flash cut to two detectives and the cops at the scene after receiving an "annoymous 9-1-1 call." Of course, they find a spider tracer on the back of the Bookie's neck.

Back to the reporters, in which, once again, reitterating what they told us in the first scene, and that Hollister will need a miracle like the arrest of Spider-Man if he wants to win the election, which were told is two days away. (Gee, I wonder who is going to win after this is all over?)

Cut to Spidey being chased by an NYPD helicopter which is shooting at him, and after making a pun about not being a serial killer because of how much he loves cereal (yeah, VERY old joke), he gets tagged by a bullet right in the shoulder. He manages to swing into a office building and, after frightening an office worker and--in a scene which echoes Spidey letting go of the burglar--he manages to get away from the cops when he passes by another office worker at the elevators who refuses to get involved (the cop even asks the office worker why "he didn't trip him or something.")

Next, we cut to NYPD Crime Scene Unit and Carlie Cooper talking to a colleague named Julian Beck. Carlie tells him that she thinks Hollister is going to loose unless (and here it comes AGAIN) he gets a "miracle" in that the Spider-Tracer Killer is captured. And she also says that she wants Spider-Man caught because Hollister is like a father to her and she wants him to win, and also she wants to get to the bottom of the murders. We find out that, at her request some three months ago, her colleague made a device that is capable of tracking down spider-tracers in a similar way Spider-Man does, even if the tracers are turned off. The downside is it's only accurarte within the sixteen inches. Eager to use it, Carlie activates it and, on seeing where the signal is coming from, she starts to look worried.

Cut to a scene where Spider-Man is fighting Menace. Menace stabs Spidey with his blade gauntlets and Menace reveals that he knows Spider-Man is Peter Parker. He then unmasks and reveals himself as HARRY OSBORN! And then...

Spidey wakes up. Seriously. It was just a nightmare. Still bleeding from his earlier bullet wound, Spidey heads for home.

We then cut to Jameson and Robbie in a gym, where Jameson is hitting a punching bag. Jameson complains about how much has changed in that he's not covering the election, Marla has left him, and he no longer has the Bugle. Of course, Robbie points out some things haven't changed since Jameson has a picture of Spider-Man on the punching bag.

We get a series of cuts between the DB offices, Crowne campaign headquarters, and Hollister campaign headquaters. Dexter Bennet want the headlines to favor Crowne no matter who wins; Crowne is about to get the latest poll numbers; and Hollister looks over the latest poll with all but a shrug and wonders where his daughter is.

We see that Lilly is with Harry at the Statue of Liberty, and he has arranged it so they are the only ones there. She wants to find out what the latest poll numbers are on her cellphone, while Harry tells her to relax and to think of climbing all the steps as just another one of her daily workouts. Because once they get to the top and overlook the harbor, Harry drops to one knee and proposes to her--complete with fireworks from barges Harry has hired. (So, I guess Harry, unlike Peter, isn't too young to get married--AGAIN!)

Back at Peter and Vin's apartment, Vin gets a phone call from someone, telling the caller he "didn't sign up for that," that "they are going to talk," and that he's on his way. After he leaves, Peter comes in through the window and starts tearing off his Spidey costume and starts to clean himself up in the shower. At this point, Carlie lets herself in with a spare key, and hears Peter in the shower. He manages to snag his Spider-Man costume before she sees it, and tells her not to come into the bathroom since he's naked. After making a crack about not wanting to see his "little Peter" she leaves him be and scans the apartment with the tracer tracker. The tracker then leads her into...

Vin Gonzalez's room. And under his bed, she finds a ziplock bag full of old Spider-Tracers. (Hmm, a bit too convenient, wouldn't you say?

So, nothing really gets resolved and it's bit slow going. An okay issue, but nothing too earthshattering either, save for the "surprise" at the end. Which, come on, would have to be pretty lazy on the part of Guggenheim to reveal the identity of the Spider-Tracer Killer that early. Can you say "patsy?"

 

[bryanss3]

I liked the issue over all but there were some parts I didn't like

[BLACKOUT]I thought the tv reporter thing was dumb and cereal joke thing was more annoying than funny
and I found it just a bit ridiculous that the NYPD came that close to taking him down, but SHIELD couldn't even get him when they knew his secret identity[/BLACKOUT]

but other than that I enjoyed this issue.

 

[JJJ's Ulcer]

One thing nagged at me this whole issue...

Now, I'm not a continuity-snob by any means, but since when has Boomerang been a patriotic skater-dude who slings the word "dude" around and can vote in American elections?? Last I checked he was a true blue Aussie and those "dudes" should definitely be "mates."

Oh well. Besides that it was okay. Nothing too groundbreaking. Peter gets seriously injured... again. And in a pretty lazy way.

I did like the tip-of-the-hat to AF#15 though ("That's your job, pal.")

I'd give it a 6 out of 10.

 

[ben_reilly_s_s]

With all the talk going on about how people cant but 2 and 2 together and figure out Pete is Spidey for some reason...
Is'nt it obvious that Vin's room is really Pete's....
Though, i only flipped through it to see if any of the reveals were, well, actually revealed.....
NOPE!!!!
Until they fix this cluster-f...
i'm not buying....also, cause i'm broke

 

[JerseyJoker]

WOW. THEY DIDNT REVEAL ANYONE IN THE FIRST ISSUE!

OMG!!!

Seriously?

Never be head of any type of marketing or buiness that involves bringing in viewers/customers/etc.

 

[SuperFerret]

Next, we cut to NYPD Crime Scene Unit and Carlie Cooper talking to a colleague named Julian Beck.

Beck? As in Quentin?

 

[JerseyJoker]

Could be something small and interesting, or just someone needed a last name. -_-

I enjoyed the issue, some of the stuff people say they didnt like, i actually dug. I dont get the big deal with the news people, since having them in there to cover the election is really no biggie.

The only thing that i didnt like was the SHocker/Boomarang "go vote" speech type thing, to didactic for my taste. All and all, i liked the issue, its a good starting issue to what i hope is a very interesting and fun arch in Spidey's world.

And like Harry is really going to marry that chick, its nothing but a plot point. And i do like the first image of the "suspects" being crossed out.

 

[SuperFerret]

Could be something small and interesting, or just someone needed a last name. -_-

I enjoyed the issue, some of the stuff people say they didnt like, i actually dug. I dont get the big deal with the news people, since having them in there to cover the election is really no biggie.

The only thing that i didnt like was the SHocker/Boomarang "go vote" speech type thing, to didactic for my taste. All and all, i liked the issue, its a good starting issue to what i hope is a very interesting and fun arch in Spidey's world.

And like Harry is really going to marry that chick, its nothing but a plot point. And i do like the first image of the "suspects" being crossed out.

True, maybe I jumped to conclusions due to my liking of Mysterio.

 

[Themanofbat]

I thought it was a decent issue... good start to a potentially good storyline, and really awesome artwork...

JrJr's work on this issue looked less rushed than in NWTD...

 

[bryanss3]

^^here's to hopin the next issue is even better and that Menace doesn't turn out to be some character that we've never seen.

 

[Blader5489]

So, nothing really gets resolved and it's bit slow going. An okay issue, but nothing too earthshattering either, save for the "surprise" at the end. Which, come on, would have to be pretty lazy on the part of Guggenheim to reveal the identity of the Spider-Tracer Killer that early. Can you say "patsy?"

So just I'm clear...you're criticizing the issue for not revealing anything, then criticizing it for revealing something (i.e. the tracer killer's identity)?

 

[Dragon]

Just bring me up to speed. Why does Peter, who's concerned about keeping his secret identity allow Carlie to have free access to his apartment?

And why would Spider-Man- should he actually become a serial killer leave an obvious calling card, such as a spider tracer? And at the same time, why would anyone assume its Spider-Man, since a spider tracer could be made by anyone? It doesn't even need to work so long as it looks like one? I mean, people do know that Spider-Man has enemies that would want to implicate him in crimes, right?

But then this idea is so overly silly that pretty much everything about it is questionable.

 

[stillanerd]

^^^
Well, according to Dan Slott and others, whatever caused Peter to regain his secret identity and made everyone forget he was Spider-Man, also prevents anyone from making the logical conclusion that Peter is Spider-Man, even if the evidence stares at them right in the face. (Yeah, I happen to think it's a bit ridiculous, too).

And as for the Spider-Tracer killings, there was even an issue awhile back in which the Bookie said that all of the victims (at least up to that point) actually died of natural causes. And yet no one in the CSI lab noticed this?

So just I'm clear...you're criticizing the issue for not revealing anything, then criticizing it for revealing something (i.e. the tracer killer's identity)?

No. I'm saying it's an okay, but not exactly a real kick in the pants in what's supposed to be the start of revealing all the big mysteries, IMO. And I'm not critical at all about the surprise at the end, since that WAS an interesting development which required me to readjust what I think is going on with regards to Menace and the Spider Tracer Killer. However, I seriously doubt that [blackout]Vin Gonzales is the Spider-Tracer Killer. The scene is a total red herring.[/blackout] However, I do think that I have an idea who the real Spider-Tracer Killer is:

Spoiler

I think it's Vin's partner, Al O'Neil. Furthermore, I believe that the STK along with the Spider-Mugger (remember him?) were hired to discredit Spider-Man in order to give Randall Crowne a platform to run for mayor. And the brains behind all this is Dexter Bennet.

 

[bryanss3]

^^^

[blackout]Vin Gonzales is the Spider-Tracer Killer. The scene is a total red herring.[/blackout] However, I do think that I have an idea who the real Spider-Tracer Killer is:

Spoiler

I think it's Vin's partner, Al O'Neil. Furthermore, I believe that the STK along with the Spider-Mugger (remember him?) were hired to discredit Spider-Man in order to give Randall Crowne a platform to run for mayor. And the brains behind all this is Dexter Bennet.

[BLACKOUT]
Are you suspecting him because he seems to like Spider-man just like Stanley Carter in the Death of Jean DeWolff story[/BLACKOUT] I like the way you think. can PAD please write at least 1 Spidey Story this year.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

Great issue, IMO. The part where we see a bsg full of Spider tracers under Vin's bed was really interesting, IMO.

 

[imdaly]

^^^
Well, according to Dan Slott and others, whatever caused Peter to regain his secret identity and made everyone forget he was Spider-Man, also prevents anyone from making the logical conclusion that Peter is Spider-Man, even if the evidence stares at them right in the face. (Yeah, I happen to think it's a bit ridiculous, too).

I sometimes think that whatever Peter did to get everyone to look hard evidence in the face and still not be able to come to a logical conclusion was also done to some of the Anti-BNDers.

And like Harry is really going to marry that chick, its nothing but a plot point.

I think that page, for me, revealed who the big death is going to be...

 

[Dragon]

I sometimes think that whatever Peter did to get everyone to look hard evidence in the face and still not be able to come to a logical conclusion was also done to some of the Anti-BNDers.

That you'd say that kinda confirms the opposite point. Afterall, it's the BND supporters who are overlooking or making excuses for obvious bad plotting and unoriginal writing.

I mean do you really think this spider tracer killer is a good concept, and something worth dragging out as long as it's been? It's making Clone Saga 2 seem like a short story.

 

[Dragon]

^^^
Well, according to Dan Slott and others, whatever caused Peter to regain his secret identity and made everyone forget he was Spider-Man, also prevents anyone from making the logical conclusion that Peter is Spider-Man, even if the evidence stares at them right in the face. (Yeah, I happen to think it's a bit ridiculous, too).

And as for the Spider-Tracer killings, there was even an issue awhile back in which the Bookie said that all of the victims (at least up to that point) actually died of natural causes. And yet no one in the CSI lab noticed this?

Well that just makes my heart weep.

But regarding Carlie, are they at the key-excahnge point in their relationship?

 

[imdaly]

That you'd say that kinda confirms the opposite point. Afterall, it's the BND supporters who are overlooking or making excuses for obvious bad plotting and unoriginal writing.

Either side can point to the other and make the claim.

I mean do you really think this spider tracer killer is a good concept, and something worth dragging out as long as it's been? It's making Clone Saga 2 seem like a short story.

Actually, yeah. It's not a story that's got be SO interested that I can't WAIT to find out who it is, so I don't mind it taking a little while to come to a conclusion. But at the same time, it's a cool little subplot to have brewing in the background for a while until the time comes for it to come to the forefront. Y'know, like how Spidey stories used to be! Let a couple stories simmer and brew in the background for a little bit while other stories happen, and then eventually pull it to the front.

And no, I'd say comparing a 1-year-long background plot with a 2-to-3-year SAGA is not a very valid comparison, IMO.

 

[imdaly]

But regarding Carlie, are they at the key-excahnge point in their relationship?

...do you read the books?? They aren't dating.

 

[ben_reilly_s_s]

Either side can point to the other and make the claim.



Actually, yeah. It's not a story that's got be SO interested that I can't WAIT to find out who it is, so I don't mind it taking a little while to come to a conclusion. But at the same time, it's a cool little subplot to have brewing in the background for a while until the time comes for it to come to the forefront. Y'know, like how Spidey stories used to be! Let a couple stories simmer and brew in the background for a little bit while other stories happen, and then eventually pull it to the front.

And no, I'd say comparing a 1-year-long background plot with a 2-to-3-year SAGA is not a very valid comparison, IMO.

It's been like 3 years worth of books though.....

 

[Dragon]

Either side can point to the other and make the claim.



Actually, yeah. It's not a story that's got be SO interested that I can't WAIT to find out who it is, so I don't mind it taking a little while to come to a conclusion. But at the same time, it's a cool little subplot to have brewing in the background for a while until the time comes for it to come to the forefront. Y'know, like how Spidey stories used to be! Let a couple stories simmer and brew in the background for a little bit while other stories happen, and then eventually pull it to the front.

And no, I'd say comparing a 1-year-long background plot with a 2-to-3-year SAGA is not a very valid comparison, IMO.

Has it been a YEAR? I was being facetious actually- but considering the number of issues devoted to this thing, based on its impact, I'd say my jest was woefully more accurate than I'd hoped.

But to be constructive, one way that STK plot might actually be of some value was if Peter really might be partly responsible for the killings; In that his using the tracers was leading to people being killed. Thus adding sense and drama to the story, because Peter would have a vested interest in getting to the bottom of it. Not just another ridiculous plot where he's accused of all things despite any logical reasoning. The "Joey Z" killing from Mackie's run was far-fetched enough. But this is next level silly.

Further, I don't really see how the BND supporters can point to those against BND and say they're making excuses for bad writing and concepts, since bad writing and concepts are why they're against BND.

And no, I haven't beem reading the recent stuff. I bought the first issues of BND, then read it sporadically, until a few months back when I stopped.

So, back to my question- why, if they aren't even dating does Carlie-

1. Have a key to Peter's apartment.
2. Figure it's okay to show up without calling?

Gwen and MJ hadn't had that kind of leeway and he was dating them.

 

[imdaly]

It's been like 3 years worth of books though.....

3 years worth of ONE book, many of them having nothing to do at all with the Spider Tracer Killer plot. But just to please you, I'll count every issue of ASM since BND until "Character Assassination" ends:

Amazing Spider-Man #546-588
Amazing Spider-Man Annual #35
Amazing Spider-Man Extra #1

So, 45 issues, many with them having NOTHING to do with the Spider Tracer plot.




The Clone Saga was 2 years of MULTIPLE books. We have:

Amazing Spider-Man #393-418
Amazing Spider-Man Annual 1996
Spectacular Spider-Man #215-240
Web of Spider-Man #114-129
Spider-Man #48-75
Spider-Man Unlimited #7-14
Sensational Spider-Man #0-11
Amazing Spider-Man Super Special
Spectacular Spider-Man Super Special
Spider-Man Super Special
Web of Spider-Man Super Special
Venom Super Special
Scarlet Spider #1-2
Web of Scarlet Spider #1-4
Amazing Scarlet Spider #1-2
Spectacular Scarlet Spider #1-2
Scarlet Spider Unlimited #1
Spider-Man: Maximum Clonage Alpha
Spider-Man: Maximum Clonage Omega
Spider-Man: The Lost Years #1-3
Spider-Man: The Final Adventure #1-4
Spider-Man: Clone Journal
Spider-Man: The Parker Years
Spider-Man: Redemption #1-4
Spider-Man: Jackal Files
Spider-Man: The Osborn Journals
Spider-Man: Dead Man's Hand
Spider-Man: Funeral for an Octopus #1-3
New Warriors #61-67, 70-71
Green Goblin #3, 10, 13
Spider-Man Holiday Special 1995
Spider-Man/Punisher: Family Plot #1-2
Venom: Along Came a Spider #1-4
Venom: The Hunted #1
DC vs. Marvel #1-4
Spider-Man Team-Up #2-5
Daredevil #354
Marvel Fanfare #3
Avengers #400
X-Men #339

Count 'em up and we have 186 issues.


And that's not counting the original clone saga story issues back when Miles Warren first started cloning Pete and Gwen or this month's Ben Reilly appearance in Spider-Man - X-Men #3 or any other appearances he had that I may have missed.

So again, you obviously can't compare the two.

 

[imdaly]

Has it been a YEAR? I was being facetious actually- but considering the number of issues devoted to this thing, based on its impact, I'd say my jest was woefully more accurate than I'd hoped.

It's been a year since the plot was intruduced. It hasn't really had ANY issues until now that I'd say have issues "devoted" to it. It's just been something that's had a quick reference to it here and there over the year. The only thing that could be considered a regular reference to the plot would be the same exact 2.5-sentence blurb that's shown as a side-news article on the recap page in most of the issues from #552-583. It was only this week's issue, #584, where that blurb actually changed to something updated. And it's this week's issue where it finally comes to the forefront.

But to be constructive, one way that STK plot might actually be of some value was if Peter really might be partly responsible for the killings; In that his using the tracers was leading to people being killed. Thus adding sense and drama to the story, because Peter would have a vested interest in getting to the bottom of it. Not just another ridiculous plot where he's accused of all things despite any logical reasoning.

That's very true. And I expect that will go on. And what do you mean by "despite any logical reasoning"? The public has believed Spider-Man to be a menace since he debuted! And now that there's killings going around with his tracers left on the dead bodies, why WOULDN'T he be a suspect?

We have dead bodies popping up with seemingly no connection to each other other than Spider Tracers being found on them. We have Spider-Man being seen by police officers at times standing over the dead bodies. We have Spider-Man already being untrusted by the public ESPECIALLY now that he's an unregistered fugitive running from the law. I guess I just fail to see how it's be illogical for the public to suspect Spider-Man over any other suspects.

Further, I don't really see how the BND supporters can point to those against BND and say they're making excuses for bad writing and concepts, since bad writing and concepts are why they're against BND.

And no, I haven't beem reading the recent stuff. I bought the first issues of BND, then read it sporadically, until a few months back when I stopped.

So, back to my question- why, if they aren't even dating does Carlie-

1. Have a key to Peter's apartment.
2. Figure it's okay to show up without calling?

Gwen and MJ hadn't had that kind of leeway and he was dating them.

Well it's things like the what you're complaining about here that are reasons why we (or at least, I. I don't want to speak for anyone else here.) can point to some detracters and say that they're uninformed about some of what they consider to be "bad writing".

In just this post alone you're complaining about a Spider Tracer plot being stretched out for a year, with a "number of issues devoted to the thing", when really there hasn't really been ANY issues devoted to it, and the plot has only been a background side-plot that's been brewing here and there until this week's issue where it's a major part of the the "Character Assassination" story that will have this plot finished. Also, you're also complaining about Carlie already having a key to Pete's apartment this early in "their relationship". Even though they aren't dating and we don't even know how Carlie got the key. Ever think perhaps she just knows where Pete and Vin leave their spare key in case one of them forgets theirs? It's a pretty common practice for someone to leave a spare key under a mat, above a door, or under a rock or something, and Carlie could've easily guess this or known about it from watching one of them use it before. I have a good number of friends that I know where their spare keys are and could easily use it to get in their house if I for some reason wanted to, all without dating them or even just having them give it to me.

But no. That's too logical. It's probably just bad writing.

 

[Dragon]

It's been a year since the plot was intruduced. It hasn't really had ANY issues until now that I'd say have issues "devoted" to it. It's just been something that's had a quick reference to it here and there over the year. The only thing that could be considered a regular reference to the plot would be the same exact 2.5-sentence blurb that's shown as a side-news article on the recap page in most of the issues from #552-583. It was only this week's issue, #584, where that blurb actually changed to something updated. And it's this week's issue where it finally comes to the forefront.

So, even worse- they've been plodding along with this storyline (And BTW- as one who is so well-informed about BND, it's funny to me that you seem to have forgotten that it BEGAN only a year ago, so the Spider Tracer storyline can't in and of itself have been a full year.)

Now. For Spidey to have been ignoring this- someone committing killings in his name- resulting in his being hunted FOR A SPECIFIC CRIME is yes- BAD WRITING. This is something any reasonable person would get on top of. Make THE PRIORITY in their life.

That's very true. And I expect that will go on. And what do you mean by "despite any logical reasoning"? The public has believed Spider-Man to be a menace since he debuted! And now that there's killings going around with his tracers left on the dead bodies, why WOULDN'T he be a suspect?

We have dead bodies popping up with seemingly no connection to each other other than Spider Tracers being found on them. We have Spider-Man being seen by police officers at times standing over the dead bodies. We have Spider-Man already being untrusted by the public ESPECIALLY now that he's an unregistered fugitive running from the law. I guess I just fail to see how it's be illogical for the public to suspect Spider-Man over any other suspects.

Not all the public considers him a menace. Certainly not those whose lives he's saved, which would be quite a number.

Now you tell me- were you a cop- and bodies were suddenly appearing with spider tracers on them (And BTW- how many people actually know what a spider tracer is, and its connection to Spider-Man? He doesn't exactly leave them lying around since they cost money and he's pretty much always broke. It would seem that if Spider-Man's MO is so common that people know his esoteric equipment, then they'd be more aware of his record and that he's never been connercted to a crime. But I digress..). Such an obvious calling card for Spidey. Would you assume-

1. That despite the fact that it isn't his MO (Cops have picked up hundreds of criminals caught by him) and despite the fact that the victims died of apparent natural causes. That Spider-Man has gone on a killing spree (Although there's no way of knowing how he killed these people) but decided to implicate himself in these crimes.

2. That Spider-Man has caught hundreds of criminals and would thus have a monstrous enemies list who would love to implicate him in crimes. And considering that more than a few of these criminals have considerable scientific knowledge, they might be able to make fake tracers and even yes, come up with a way of killing that appears to be natural causes.

Which would you, as a police officer put time and man-power behind?

Well it's things like the what you're complaining about here that are reasons why we (or at least, I. I don't want to speak for anyone else here.) can point to some detracters and say that they're uninformed about some of what they consider to be "bad writing".

In just this post alone you're complaining about a Spider Tracer plot being stretched out for a year, with a "number of issues devoted to the thing", when really there hasn't really been ANY issues devoted to it, and the plot has only been a background side-plot that's been brewing here and there until this week's issue where it's a major part of the the "Character Assassination" story that will have this plot finished.

Again, it's bad writing if the storyline is allowed to drag out for such a long period of time when they have 3 TIMES the number of issues to resolve stories in. Back when ASM was a once-monthly title (And well-written) something like this would be dealt with in at most six issues. Or at least the villain would be revealed and we'd have an idea of the point. This has been dragged out as YOU SAID for a year, with nothing more than vague inklings of what it's about. Then in just a single story it's supposed to be resolved? That's a huge build-up for not a big pay-off. That's- let's say it together- BAD WRITING.

Also, you're also complaining about Carlie already having a key to Pete's apartment this early in "their relationship". Even though they aren't dating and we don't even know how Carlie got the key. Ever think perhaps she just knows where Pete and Vin leave their spare key in case one of them forgets theirs? It's a pretty common practice for someone to leave a spare key under a mat, above a door, or under a rock or something, and Carlie could've easily guess this or known about it from watching one of them use it before. I have a good number of friends that I know where their spare keys are and could easily use it to get in their house if I for some reason wanted to, all without dating them or even just having them give it to me.

But no. That's too logical. It's probably just bad writing.

I guess you've never been to New York, or seen a news report about the city. I guess for that matter you don't live in the twenty-first century. Cause buddy- NO ONE LEAVES A SPARE KEY WHERE STRANGERS COULD FIND IT. No- that's not LOGICAL. Not in this town. And then- AGAIN, Peter- having secrets to keep- sure as hell wouldn't give someone he didn't want to KNOW THOSE SECRETS such easy access to his life. No. NOT LOGICAL.