Andy Serkis IS Alfred Pennyworth

[Eddie Dean]

Quotes or it didn’t happen

 

[Invader Joker]

Quotes or it didn’t happen

He said it right in the DC Fandome panel.

 

[shauner111]

That this would be a drastically different Alfred than anything we've seen before. If he was going for a traditional butler I doubt he'd say that seeing how that's the version of Alfred that's the best known and that has been depicted the most.

Although he didn’t use the word “drastically”, he did say it was an Alfred we haven’t seen before. So I agree with you. I think he will be a younger, tougher version of Alfred than we’re used to. Did he train Bruce?? Keeping a beard on Serkis would certainly give him a tougher look than past Alfred’s. But Andy is such a sweetheart of a man, and Matt knows it. So he’ll also have a warm heart. He won’t be some cold bastard who only gives Bruce s**t. Tough love from the man who raised him, would be my guess.

 

[Eddie Dean]

I don’t think anything he said would lead me to think this will be a radically new version of Alfred. He said the same thing about Jeffrey Wright who seems to be playing a pretty classic Gordon

 

[Schlosser85]

Although he didn’t use the word “drastically”, he did say it was an Alfred we haven’t seen before. So I agree with you. I think he will be a younger, tougher version of Alfred than we’re used to. Did he train Bruce?? Keeping a beard on Serkis would certainly give him a tougher look than past Alfred’s. But Andy is such a sweetheart of a man, and Matt knows it. So he’ll also have a warm heart. He won’t be some cold bastard who only gives Bruce s**t. Tough love from the man who raised him, would be my guess.

Sounds sort of like Pertwee’s Alfred on the Gotham show.

 

[shauner111]

Wasn’t he a prick? Only saw him in a few scenes and didn’t like his approach.

Tough love but not unlikable for Serkis Alfred.

 

[shauner111]

I don’t think anything he said would lead me to think this will be a radically new version of Alfred. He said the same thing about Jeffrey Wright who seems to be playing a pretty classic Gordon

Not sure how you can tell that by just seeing Gordon pick up a card and reading it. We don’t know anything about Gordon’s characterization in this.

 

[Eddie Dean]

Your being disingenuous if you don’t think the portrayal of Gordon in the trailer isn’t in step with how the character is usually portrayed.

 

[shauner111]

Your being disingenuous if you don’t think the portrayal of Gordon in the trailer isn’t in step with how the character is usually portrayed.

Surface level? Yes. In acting and how he carries himself. Doesn’t mean the characterization is the same as say...Oldman’s.

 

[BobJM]

I do wish we got to see Alfred. Curious to see how Serkis handles the role. At least the dialogue sounded very Alfred to me, so kudos there

 

[Eddie Dean]

I mean, sure. I could also say that maybe Pattinson's Bruce Wayne has a third nipple since we haven't seen him shirtless, but all evidence points to Wright being a traditional Gordon.

 

[Invader Joker]

Your being disingenuous if you don’t think the portrayal of Gordon in the trailer isn’t in step with how the character is usually portrayed.

I remember a rumor that this Gordon is an alcoholic. That'd be a very different Gordon.

 

[Eddie Dean]

You clearly don't know about Gordon having a beer and cheating on his wife then.

 

[Invader Joker]

You clearly don't know about Gordon having a beer and cheating on his wife then.

We haven't seen that in live action.

 

[Schlosser85]

Honestly I'd kind of like to see the more "flawed hero", three-dimensional Year One Gordon who's a Vietnam veteran and a hard-ass when he needs to be, beats the **** out of Flass, has a drinking problem, and cheats on his wife, but I doubt we'll get all that in this movie.

I've also always kinda wanted that scene at the end of Year One where Batman saves Gordon's kids from mobsters and then Gordon loses his glasses and sees Bruce unmasked but claims he can't see anything without his glasses and there's that ambiguity whether he knows it's Bruce and just plays dumb.

 

[Gamma Goliath]

Alcoholic Gordon is from the Aronofsky script.

 

[Eddie Dean]

He has a beer and cheats on his wife!

 

[shauner111]

Honestly I'd kind of like to see the more "flawed hero", three-dimensional Year One Gordon who's a Vietnam veteran and a hard-ass when he needs to be, beats the **** out of Flass, has a drinking problem, and cheats on his wife, but I doubt we'll get all that in this movie.

I've also always kinda wanted that scene at the end of Year One where Batman saves Gordon's kids from mobsters and then Gordon loses his glasses and sees Bruce unmasked but claims he can't see anything without his glasses and there's that ambiguity whether he knows it's Bruce and just plays dumb.

Right there, that could be the type of Gordon that Wright is playing. And you wouldn’t be able to tell in the minimal shots we’ve seen of him in that teaser. And it’s completely different from Oldman, Simmons or Hingle.

 

[shauner111]

He has a beer and cheats on his wife!

And even that would be a different Gordon from what we’ve seen on film.

 

[Eddie Dean]

No one gets has a beer and cheats on his wife

 

[thangaran]

Do most want to see a militaristic combative tough love hostile-tyle Alfred? Or a more subservient weaker man who doesn’t really question Master Bruce?

I would love to see the former. A harsh hostile tough love approach who also teaches Battinson a few things which help him survive and be humbled

 

[SwordOfMorning]

He has a beer and cheats on his wife!

I remember someone, pretty sure it was Jett, specifically describing that Gordon as a guy who ‘cheats on his wife and has another beer’ and somehow the phrasing stuck in my mind as one of the funniest character descriptions I’ve ever read.

 

[Eddie Dean]

Spooky reviews 1st draft of Aronofsky & Frank Miller's BATMAN YEAR ONE screenplay!!!

 

[SwordOfMorning]

Spooky reviews 1st draft of Aronofsky & Frank Miller's BATMAN YEAR ONE screenplay!!!

Oh, I’m so sorry, I misremembered. He cheets on his wife.

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

I do wish we got to see Alfred. Curious to see how Serkis handles the role. At least the dialogue sounded very Alfred to me, so kudos there

Given the cockney accent, I suspect that we're getting an Alfred who's more in line with more modern takes on the character. TDK's Michael Caine was, of course, the first actor to deviate from posh accents of the past, with Jack Bannon most recently following suit in Pennyworth. That Reeves opted to go this route when he could have just as easily gone more traditional (yes, I know Alfred is working class in some iterations, but posh accents aren't necessarily limited to the upper class) is interesting. I'm reticent to make any strong inferences from that, as the film is still a ways off; but could it mean that we're getting a more hands-on approach in Serkis's performance what with modern Alfreds alluding to his SAS background and such? Personally, I'd be fine with that so long as it doesn't borrow too heavily from the Earth One version.