Animals Are Not Ours To Wear

[bluejake01]

So, what if we oppose the fact that the animals are being killed? Is that wrong. I'm sorry if I feel that it's inhumane. Jesus Christ. You said at the beginning of the thread that you wouldn't play to tears of whatever. Okay, your grandpa works hard. Good for him. So did mine. I'm sorry that ALF is ruining his business, although I can understand ALF actions. But you make it out as PETA and ALF are only out to hurt your grandfather. We care about animals a great deal. We see these practices as inhumane. If you have a problem with that, then move to a country where we can't be able to voice our disapproval. Listen, I don't think you're wrong or I'm right. It's all my opinion. You seem to think PETA is wrong and you are right. And that's the difference.

PETA and the ALF are terroist organizations. Do you really feel so strongly about your own morality that you would throw your hat in with terrorists?

 

[kritic]

defenders, do you think killing animals in general is wrong, or just the way in which some food processing plants go about it?

 

[Master Blaster]

I'm a vegetarian and I agree with points Venice makes, although the way he or she makes them isn't the best way. I'm far from a pansie or hippie.

I don't think your a pansy. I think Venice is. And I agree with you about how he is getting on his high horse, telling everyone how to live. Look, if your a vegetarian, that's cool. Just don't tell me how to live my life, ok?

 

[Corinthian™]

I don't think your a pansy. I think Venice is. And I agree with you about how he is getting on his high horse, telling everyone how to live. Look, if your a vegetarian, that's cool. Just don't tell me how to live my life, ok?

but we have to tell you how to live your life... then ours won't matter as much

 

[Master Blaster]

but we have to tell you how to live your life... then ours won't matter as much

But then what the blue hell is the point in living if I can't be free to make my own decisions?

 

[Joker]

look, if we werent supposed to eat and wear animals, they wouldnt taste so good, and we would have fur of our own...f**kin hippie tree-hugging, animal loving pieces of trash...for gods sakes, these creatures have brains the size of a walnut, they dont know what the f**k is happening...and if the cow could eat you, if would

 

[Rayne]

One of the best posts on the hype....ever

Thank you, all of you...I was angered by some of the responses here and had to talk about the truth. Thanks again.

 

[Edd Extraordinaire]

Frigging hippies.

 

[Rayne]

I'd like to put hippies in little pens and harvest them for their beads and use them to move towards a nationwide "Naw'lins" deal: SHOW ME YOUR T!TS!!!

 

[Spider-Fett]

How about your family?

They aren't small

 

[Spider-Fett]

So, what if we oppose the fact that the animals are being killed? Is that wrong. I'm sorry if I feel that it's inhumane. Jesus Christ. You said at the beginning of the thread that you wouldn't play to tears of whatever. Okay, your grandpa works hard. Good for him. So did mine. I'm sorry that ALF is ruining his business, although I can understand ALF actions. But you make it out as PETA and ALF are only out to hurt your grandfather. We care about animals a great deal. We see these practices as inhumane. If you have a problem with that, then move to a country where we can't be able to voice our disapproval. Listen, I don't think you're wrong or I'm right. It's all my opinion. You seem to think PETA is wrong and you are right. And that's the difference.

The difference is his grandparents are forcing their beliefs on PETA or ALF. While they are clearly trying to use force to make his grandparents follow theirs.

PETA and ALF are zealots.

 

[ShrinkingViolet]

So, what if we oppose the fact that the animals are being killed? Is that wrong. I'm sorry if I feel that it's inhumane. Jesus Christ. You said at the beginning of the thread that you wouldn't play to tears of whatever. Okay, your grandpa works hard. Good for him. So did mine. I'm sorry that ALF is ruining his business, although I can understand ALF actions. But you make it out as PETA and ALF are only out to hurt your grandfather. We care about animals a great deal. We see these practices as inhumane. If you have a problem with that, then move to a country where we can't be able to voice our disapproval. Listen, I don't think you're wrong or I'm right. It's all my opinion. You seem to think PETA is wrong and you are right. And that's the difference.

I didn't get the impression it was the voicing of opinions he had a problem with, but rather the actions of those with dissenting opinions - vandalism, freeing of animals (which causes losses) etc. - those are the things that are ruining the buiness by driving up costs (both direct and indirect).

And PETA and ALF are out to hurt his grandfather and all others like him by driving them out of business. There is no compromise for PETA and ALF. They believe they are right and his grandfather is wrong. They are not content to allow it to be a difference of opinion and live and let live. His grandfather and everyone else must change to fit the view's of PETA and ALF.

 

[Zev]

So, what if we oppose the fact that the animals are being killed? Is that wrong. I'm sorry if I feel that it's inhumane. Jesus Christ. You said at the beginning of the thread that you wouldn't play to tears of whatever. Okay, your grandpa works hard. Good for him. So did mine. I'm sorry that ALF is ruining his business, although I can understand ALF actions. But you make it out as PETA and ALF are only out to hurt your grandfather.

Yes, because putting someone out of business is really beneficial to someone.

We care about animals a great deal.

More than people, obviously.

We see these practices as inhumane. If you have a problem with that, then move to a country where we can't be able to voice our disapproval.

I'd prefer to live in a country where people are jailed for vandalizing property, "liberating" animals, and generally being terrorists

Listen, I don't think you're wrong or I'm right. It's all my opinion. You seem to think PETA is wrong and you are right. And that's the difference.

This is not about a difference of opinion, this is about people who use illegal acts to try and get their point across. Which PETA encourages.

 

[ShrinkingViolet]

The difference is his grandparents aren't forcing their beliefs on PETA or ALF. While they are clearly trying to use force to make his grandparents follow theirs.

PETA and ALF are zealots.

I think this is what you meant. Same as me.

His grandparent aren't trying to force PETA and ALF or anyone to wear fur or to be fur ranchers, but PETA and ALF are trying to force EVERYONE not to.

 

[Zev]

PETA

More PETA

PETA has a sense of humor. It lampoons anything and everything. But their campaigns aren’t funny. Pick a tragedy and PETA conjures a new campaign. When eight-year-old Jessie Arbogast had his arm ripped off by a bull shark off Florida’s Gulf Coast, PETA jumped at the opportunity. It readied a campaign complete with airplanes pulling banners over key U.S. beaches and roadside billboards. Their slogan? “Would you give your right arm to know why sharks attack? Could it be revenge? Go Veg.”

Then 10-year-old David Peltier was killed off the Virginia coast followed by a young Russian émigré off North Carolina’s Outer Banks. PETA pulled its campaign.

It pulled other campaigns too. One parodied the “Got Milk” advertising. It showed New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani and proclaimed “Got Prostate Cancer” linking the disease to drinking milk. Another compared broiler chickens to the millions who died in Hitler’s death camps.

Cindy Crawford

I was born an omnivore. Both plants and animals are part of my natural diet. But as long as we're forcing people to change who they are and comform to others' beliefs, why not to force homosexuals to be celibate or to enter into heterosexual marriages? I mean, this is all about how people were born.

And when is PETA going to go after those awful cats! They massacre mice! And wolves! They eat deer and stuff! They're ignoring all that murder! But seriously, does anyone else picture Venice staying home on Friday nights, watching the scene from Finding Nemo where the sharks agree not to eat meat over and over again, while crying and saying "Some day... some day soon..."?

 

[Spider-Fett]

I think this is what you meant. Same as me.

His grandparent aren't trying to force PETA and ALF or anyone to wear fur or to be fur ranchers, but PETA and ALF are trying to force EVERYONE not to.

Yep, thanks living spell check

 

[Zev]

Doom sez EAT STEAK!

Ha cha cha cha! Delicious!

 

[Spider-Fett]

Think of all the steel that died to make that suit

 

[jaguarr]

Beef. It's what's for dinner.

jag

 

[Joker]

when I'm ruler of everything, my plan is that Vegetarians have a choice...they can either shut up and stop trying to force there beliefs on everyone else, or they can trade there life for that of 1 cows, and be eaten instead of it...not directly mind you, but processed and fed to other livestock...it's there choice

 

[Zev]

"With so many wonderful alternatives to wool, fur, and leather, there's simply no need to use animal skins to cover your own skin. For every wool sweater, leather belt or jacket, or bit of fur trim, animals are tortured and mutilated in ways that would make any compassionate person's skin crawl. Sheep, cows, foxes, rabbits, minks, and other animals used for their fleece, fur, or skins feel pain and suffer just like the dogs and cats in our own homes, yet chunks of their flesh are hacked off, they are electrocuted, their necks are snapped, and their throats are slit open, often without any painkillers. Join kind people everywhere and shed your skins-wear only compassionate, animal-free clothing." - PETA

Wearing animal fur is disgusting. Here's some more gross information: http://www.furisdead.com/animals.html

I didn't want to post any pictures because they're nauseating.

And now, for the final word on the subject: Doc Ock Kitten

 

[Kroc1138]

"With so many wonderful alternatives to wool, fur, and leather, there's simply no need to use animal skins to cover your own skin. For every wool sweater, leather belt or jacket, or bit of fur trim, animals are tortured and mutilated in ways that would make any compassionate person's skin crawl. Sheep, cows, foxes, rabbits, minks, and other animals used for their fleece, fur, or skins feel pain and suffer just like the dogs and cats in our own homes, yet chunks of their flesh are hacked off, they are electrocuted, their necks are snapped, and their throats are slit open, often without any painkillers. Join kind people everywhere and shed your skins-wear only compassionate, animal-free clothing." - PETA

Wearing animal fur is disgusting. Here's some more gross information: http://www.furisdead.com/animals.html

I didn't want to post any pictures because they're nauseating.

Peta not really the most credible ppl around. I would really quote any of them. There all a bunch of Fascists. Have your opinions on these topics but don't spew unsupported propapaganda at us.

 

[Venice]

I don't think your a pansy. I think Venice is. And I agree with you about how he is getting on his high horse, telling everyone how to live. Look, if your a vegetarian, that's cool. Just don't tell me how to live my life, ok?

First off, i'm a girl, and your generalization of vegetarians as feminine is wrong. I know guys who are vegetarians and "masculine". If I were you I wouldn't assume so quickly.

I'm not forcing you to do anything, if you don't like the things that are being said then don't come in this thread anymore. Simple, really..

What's also funny is the people who continue barking lectures about me not telling them how to live, then finish with them telling me how to live.

 

[Kroc1138]

First off, i'm a girl, and your generalization of vegetarians as feminine is wrong. I know guys who are vegetarians and "masculine". If I were you I wouldn't assume so quickly.

I'm not forcing you to do anything, if you don't like the things that are being said then don't come in this thread anymore. Simple, really..

What's also funny is the people who continue barking lectures about me not telling them how to live, then finish with them telling me how to live.

Then if you know that you opinion would get such a negative response then why post it to start?? Especially with such a title as "Animals Are Not Ours To Wear". You are (intended or not) bating ppl into a debate with such a title, and now complaining that you got such negative responses. You can't have it both ways.

 

[Venice]

Then if you know that you opinion would get such a negative response then why post it to start?? Especially with such a title as "Animals Are Not Ours To Wear". You are (intended or not) bating ppl into a debate with such a title, and now complaining that you got such negative responses. You can't have it both ways.

Duh. Of course it's going to get negative commenting, not everyone thinks the same way. I was well aware, however I wasn't aware of the childish manner it would be presented in. I can tell most of the people here enjoy pushing people's buttons to get a rise out of them...they're usually the same people who complain about problems and then do nothing about it, and then complain some more.

I'm not forcing anyone to do anything.