Animals Are Not Ours To Wear

[Venice]

This whole thread is negative. Am I a defeatist? no...But I do my best to live as I feel is right. It is not my place to control the actions of the world...I have more important things to worry about, like the health of my tribe and the enrichment of my family.

My first post I stated my cause and was bombarded by idiots. You seem intelligent enough to understand that i'm not here to purposely start fights but I don't sit back and let people walk over me. Sorry if you feel that way.

 

[bluejake01]

Animals have feelings, personalities, emotions, they shouldn't be grown to be mutilated. I'm sorry but I don't see how making jokes out of killing animals is entertaining.

I didn't see it as a joke...he makes a fine point. The majority of humans eat meat...why waste the skin when it could make us shoes and jackets?

 

[Venice]

Well the majority of humans need to figure out that killing animals is unethical. We could use other non living resources.

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[the defenders]

I'm making a suggestion. Threads like this our obnoxious. I bet you're a vegetarian too. Panzy.

What is so feminine about vegetarianism?




Venice, are you a vegan?

 

[Venice]

lacto-vegetarian...vegetarians and vegans are a little more dramatic.

 

[bluejake01]

Well the majority of humans need to figure out that killing animals is unethical. We could use other non living resources.

I've always wanted a pair of diamond shoes.

Why should the majority of the world conform to your ethics? We were designed by nature to eat omnivores...What do you condier non-living resources? Plants are alive, and I believe they have souls. Why is it ok to kill plants for food?

 

[bluejake01]

lacto-vegetarian...vegetarians and vegans are a little more dramatic.

That's nice...you steal milk from the mouths of baby bovine, and encourage dairy producers to keep cattle in slavery, being loaded up with junk that makes them unhealthy and causes them stress.

 

[Venice]

If you're here to only disagree with everything I say to intentionally annoy me then go somewhere else.

 

[bluejake01]

If you're here to only disagree with everything I say to intentionally annoy me then go somewhere else.

Awwww...hitting too close to home am I? You can't take what your dishing out can you?

 

[bluejake01]

Why would you choose to put yourself in the line of fire by butting heads with the majority of the world if you weren't ready to have people disagree with you?

 

[Venice]

I'm becoming full vegetarian Dec 1, it's going to be New Years Resolution. I can handle what people dish out, I just think you're an idiot.

 

[Wiseman]

I'm becoming full vegetarian Dec 1, it's going to be New Years Resolution. I can handle what people dish out, I just think you're an idiot.

Haven't you said that about everyone that disagree's with you? I hope you get banned soon you little troll

 

[bluejake01]

I'm becoming full vegetarian Dec 1, it's going to be New Years Resolution. I can handle what people dish out, I just think you're an idiot.

How so? Is that your answer to anyone that doesn't think like you? They are idiots? It's the defense of an insecure person to dismiss other points of view like that. Eating animals is not unethical, wearing their skin is not unethical...it's the way it is done that is unethical. Live the way you preach, and do the best you can. Quit trying to belittle everyone else that doesn't think exactly like you.

 

[Venice]

How so? Is that your answer to anyone that doesn't think like you? They are idiots? It's the defense of an insecure person to dismiss other points of view like that. Eating animals is not unethical, wearing their skin is not unethical...it's the way it is done that is unethical. Live the way you preach, and do the best you can. Quit trying to belittle everyone else that doesn't think exactly like you.

A little hypocritical don't you think?

 

[Paradoxium]

It is already been establish that just as many if not more animals gets gutted in veggie/wheat farms as well. I don't get this "unethical" slaugthering of animals deal. I guess it's ok not to feel guilty about something for they are only killed "unintentionally".

 

[bluejake01]

A little hypocritical don't you think?

No...I don't. I never called you an idiot. I never insulted you or your way of life. So I don't see how I am a hypocrite. Pleased do enlighten me though. Explain to me why I am being a hypocrite by asking you to stop insulting and belittling people that don't share yoru world view?

 

[Atrax robustus]

Animals have feelings, personalities, emotions, they shouldn't be grown to be mutilated. I'm sorry but I don't see how making jokes out of killing animals is entertaining.

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[Immortalfire]

 

[Venice]

Venice...these are horrible things that happen, and the answer has always been reform. We have taken great steps in this country to facilitate a climate of change. We have outlawed inhumane treatment of livestock in this country, and the authorities are busy enforcing and defining those laws. I think it's very nice that you have latched on to your cause with such fervor, but really, you would be better off living the way you preach, rather than trying to preach. I assume you will be growing your own organic fruits and vegtables and making your own hemp clothing from your own home grown stock. I hope you don't get too cold, having only your own milled cotton and or hemp to keep you warm, in your foliage covered TeePee.

You insulted me in this post, I found it "belitteling". What's the matter, you can dish it out but can't take it?

 

[bluejake01]

You insulted me in this post, I found it "belitteling". What's the matter, you can dish it out but can't take it?

I don't see how that was belittling? I was assuming something based on the way you were talking. Apparently I made an incorrect assesment and you actually don't care if animals are killed, nad aren't take steps to end their suffering. I apologize for the assumption, but that is hardly an insult. An insult is when you call someone an idiot...like you have several times.

 

[Venice]

I don't see how that was belittling? I was assuming something based on the way you were talking. Apparently I made an incorrect assesment and you actually don't care if animals are killed, nad aren't take steps to end their suffering. I apologize for the assumption, but that is hardly an insult. An insult is when you call someone an idiot...like you have several times.

Right, thank you for that. Moving on...

This is hilarious
New York — Model Gisele Bündchen—Blackglama’s (American Legend Mink) newest spokesmodel—learned exactly "what becomes a legend most" when four PETA activists holding signs reading, "Gisele: Fur Scum," jumped onto the runway and made a commotion during the taping of Victoria’s Secret’s fashion show at New York’s Lexington Avenue Armory. Three of the four women were arrested.
PETA wants to get Gisele, who reportedly accepted two fur coats valued at $250,000 from Blackglama to promote its pelts, to think about the fact that just one coat can require killing as many as 50 animals by anal and vaginal electrocution, gassing, and other unsavory methods.

Despite the fur trade’s attempts to revive the industry—by using models like Gisele in their ads—sales remain less than half of what they were in the ’80s. Calvin Klein, Todd Oldham, and Stella McCartney are just a few of the designers who won’t go near fur. Pop star P!nk, ER’s Goran Visnjic, and NYPD Blue’s Charlotte Ross, sickened by exposés of cruelty to animals caught in steel-jaw traps and driven mad in tiny fur farm cages, have all appeared recently pro bono in PETA anti-fur ads. Christy Turlington, Carré Otis, Nadja Auermann, Tatjana Patitz, and Marcus Schenkenberg adamantly refuse to wear fur.

"Gisele has blood on her hands and blood money in her pockets," says PETA President Ingrid Newkirk. "She may have long legs, but she’s pitifully short on compassion, given the pain and fear that animals suffer for her vanity."

 

[Paradoxium]

bluejake01, don't worry man no one is seriously forcing you to change your ways - don't take what is said too seriously - no one is "morally superior". Don't bother trying to change her views, from the start of the thread, she already made up her mind irregardless of the counter-arguments.

 

[Wiseman]

bluejake01, don't worry man no one is seriously forcing you to change your ways - don't take what is said too seriously - no one is "morally superior". Don't bother trying to change her views, from the start of the thread, she already made up her mind irregardless of the counter-arguments.

CONFORM OR DIE!!!

 

[bluejake01]

bluejake01, don't worry man no one is seriously forcing you to change your ways - don't take what is said too seriously - no one is "morally superior". Don't bother trying to change her views, from the start of the thread, she already made up her mind irregardless of the counter-arguments.

I know that...just pointing it out, in my own round about way.

 

[Atrax robustus]

I'm becoming full vegetarian Dec 1, it's going to be New Years Resolution. I can handle what people dish out, I just think you're an idiot.

So whats your thoughts on the animals being killed by machines when your food is being collected from the fields?

Are you going to start being self sufficient and grow ALL your food to ensure these animals are not being killed to help feed you?

Im not against what your doing at all, if you want to be a veggie then more power to you. What I dont get is that its ok to kill animals sometimes, and not at others... that confuses me?