Ant-Man and The Wasp Ant-Man and the Wasp - Box Office Discussion

[rayc1971]

I would venture to say that AMATW will beat Thor 2 as it will have smaller day to day drops...it’s a better film than Thor2 and it is looking to hold more screens in the next two months due to less stiff competition

thor 2 did 206mill domestic we gotta wait and see equalizer2 next week then mission impossible looks like its gonna be huge

 

[TheVileOne]

Ant-Man and the Wasp would need some pretty excellent holds to surpass $206 million domestic. Doesn't look like that will happen unless it has some amazing holds next weekend. I mean it's not outside the realm of possibility.

Homecoming had some impressive holds after a HUGE second weekend drop. It was the biggest second weekend drop ever for an MCU film to date. It ultimately reached $334.2 million. Deadpool 2 eventually broke $315 million after people said there was no chance it would break $300 million.

 

[Blade X]

It will turn a profit and we will have to wait until September to see exactly what it’s worldwide b.o gross will be.

Other than that the film is a major disappointment in the U.S , no way to sugarcoat it. Just like I wrote it didn’t click with families the way it was supposed to hence it’s very low box office numbers. If something like jumanji can do ganbusters in the u.s I don’t see why ant man couldn’t if families warmed up to the concept of the film.

I honestly see dark days for CBM in general after infinity war 2 is released, that movie will signal the end of an era. Anyway I am happy with what we got anyway.

To be fair, there are (to quote John Byrne) only 6 stories that you can tell with characters who shrink. So a lot of people aren't interested i watch another superhero movie starring characters who can shrink, especially since they can get their fill of a shrinking/size changing hero for free on TV with DC'S LEGENDS OF TOMORROW with the Atom.

 

[SomeOldGuy]

Deadline has bumped its estimate up to $29.5 million, so maybe I’ll give it half a jig.

 

[iEquinox]

Official estimate:

Ant-Man and The Wasp grossed an estimated $28.84M this weekend. 10-Day total stands at $132.83M.

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Dropped 62%, very similar to Homecoming's 2nd weekend drop. Pretty much guarantees it beats the first domestically and gives it a solid shot at passing $200M domestic.

Homecoming's 2nd weekend multiplier would even get it to $215.6M, but that may be a bit too optimistic since Homecoming had really strong late legs. Homecoming actually came very close to matching the first Ant-Man's 2nd weekend multiplier, which is impressive considering Ant-Man has the 3rd best legs in the MCU behind only GotG and BP.

 

[iEquinox]

OS estimates:

Ant-Man and The Wasp grossed an estimated $35.3M internationally this weekend. International total stands at $150.9M, global total stands at $283.7M.

https://***********/BORReport/status/1018511710301274113

Current international totals for Ant-Man and The Wasp include:

South Korea - $34.5M
Mexico - $11.5M
Australia - $9.7M
Russia - $9.4M
Indonesia - $9.0M
Brazil - $7.8M
Taiwan - $7.6M
Hong Kong - $6.1M
Philippines - $4.8M
Malaysia - $4.6M

https://***********/BORReport/status/1018512906181230593

 

[Raiden]

To be fair, there are (to quote John Byrne) only 6 stories that you can tell with characters who shrink. So a lot of people aren't interested i watch another superhero movie starring characters who can shrink, especially since they can get their fill of a shrinking/size changing hero for free on TV with DC'S LEGENDS OF TOMORROW with the Atom.

I doubt Legends of Tomorrow's the Atom is the reason why some people aren't interested in AMATW, and Ant-Man can do more than just shrink. Furthermore, Paul Rudd is a lot more interesting than Brandon Routh.

 

[SomeOldGuy]

Nice. Still a bunch of big OS markets to come, too.

 

[DarkKnight88]

Not great second weekend. To be fair, the fact we got an Ant-Man 2 to be begin with is pretty great. Doubt we'll see a third if this doesn't improve much on the original's box office but who knows.

 

[8ulk87]

I think we re still heading for a 200 mil Domestic finish.

As far as the film not breaking even thats utter bull.

170 mil budget plus ~50 mil for marketing and the movie needs to make 400-450 mil WW to break even.

We re at 284 mil WW atm and with the current projections 450 mil WW is happening 100%.

There is no way in hell its not going to break even. Relax guys.

The weird OS scheduling just makes the total WW prediction tougher to nail with accuracy.

Its gonna be anything from 500 - 650 mil WW.

 

[rayc1971]

I think we re still heading for a 200 mil Domestic finish.

As far as the film not breaking even thats utter bull.

170 mil budget plus ~50 mil for marketing and the movie needs to make 400-450 mil WW to break even.

We re at 284 mil WW atm and with the current projections 450 mil WW is happening 100%.

There is no way in hell its not going to break even. Relax guys.

The weird OS scheduling just makes the total WW prediction tougher to nail with accuracy.

Its gonna be anything from 500 - 650 mil WW.

it will make a profit it should surpass the 1st films domestic and worldwide numbers i stickin with 550ww

 

[Tony Stark]

This one is a head scratcher. Good critic and audience score reviews, I'd figure it would have a little better legs than this. We'll see how it holds up in the next few weeks.

 

[iEquinox]

This one is a head scratcher. Good critic and audience score reviews, I'd figure it would have a little better legs than this. We'll see how it holds up in the next few weeks.

It'll have normal MCU sequel legs, likely even above average. I don't see why that'd be a head scratcher.

 

[TheVileOne]

This one is a head scratcher. Good critic and audience score reviews, I'd figure it would have a little better legs than this. We'll see how it holds up in the next few weeks.

Not a head-scratcher IMHO. It opened bigger than the original. Crowded summer season. And let's also be honest, not exactly a Winter Soldier or Guardians of the Galaxy level event.

 

[writer0327]

I'm not sure why folks think the box office will have any affect on what the MCU is doing right now, especially a box office that is not downright terrible. Granted they would probably be a tad bit hesitant on making a third Ant-Man film if this was doing Solo numbers, but even still, Marvel is telling a wider story and needs these characters to be introduced into their universe, so if they take a small hit in the BO, so be it.

Worst case scenario, they lower the budget or include a bigger name in the 3rd film, ala SM:H did with Tony Stark to give it a boost.

 

[rayc1971]

I'm not sure why folks think the box office will have any affect on what the MCU is doing right now, especially a box office that is not downright terrible. Granted they would probably be a tad bit hesitant on making a third Ant-Man film if this was doing Solo numbers, but even still, Marvel is telling a wider story and needs these characters to be introduced into their universe, so if they take a small hit in the BO, so be it.

Worst case scenario, they lower the budget or include a bigger name in the 3rd film, ala SM:H did with Tony Stark to give it a boost.

neither antman film had a high budget antman 130mill and antman and wasp 162mill those are pretty low for comicbook summer blockbusters you cant go any lower than that with special effects and all most of these movies have budgets 200mill or more

 

[iEquinox]

Well, this isn't them taking a hit, not even a small one. It's aiming for $600M worldwide on a $162M production budget. That's a win. Not every MCU movie can/has to be another juggernaut.

Any disappointment over these numbers is the result of high expectations(which are understandable considering the MCU's track record), not the result of the movie actually doing bad financially, because it simply isn't.

 

[TheVileOne]

First movie only made $180 million.

Even The First Avenger made only $176 million and didn't even do $400 million worldwide. Granted, the marketing campaign was terrible, and Paramount was lazy about it because of the Disney change over.

And to be honest, if they just switch these characters over to other Marvel movies, that's probably for the best.

 

[Raiden]

People also have to realize that unlike Civil War and Thor Ragnarok, Ant-Man and the Wasp did not have other Avengers making appearances to boost its box office, and it is very much self-contained and not a continuation or connected to the Infinity War hype. Marvel knew this too, that's why it gave this movie a moderate budget and restrained expectation. In a year with BP and IW, Marvel is smart to bring it down a bit with an intimate movie like AMATW; even MCU cannot keep building up the global threat in every movie because they will eventually paint themselves into a corner.

 

[Flint Marko]

Well, this isn't them taking a hit, not even a small one. It's aiming for $600M worldwide on a $162M production budget. That's a win. Not every MCU movie can/has to be another juggernaut.

Any disappointment over these numbers is the result of high expectations(which are understandable considering the MCU's track record), not the result of the movie actually doing bad financially, because it simply isn't.

This should be reposted on every page of this thread from this point forward.

 

[Blade X]

I doubt Legends of Tomorrow's the Atom is the reason why some people aren't interested in AMATW, and Ant-Man can do more than just shrink. Furthermore, Paul Rudd is a lot more interesting than Brandon Routh.

I'm NOT saying that Atom from DC:LOT is the sole reason why some people aren't interested in paying to watch AMATW in the theater. I'm saying that it is ONE of the reasons why that many people aren't all that interested in watching this movie. Shrinking (or tiny) characters (be they superheroes or in sci-fi and fantasy movies) has been done before in films and TV series. It's nothing new or different.


And whether or not Rudd is more interesting than Routh is a matter of one's own personal opinion. And even if more people find Rudd more appealing and interesting than Routh, it clearly hasn't helped AMATW box office.

 

[Blade X]

Not a head-scratcher IMHO. It opened bigger than the original. Crowded summer season. And let's also be honest, not exactly a Winter Soldier or Guardians of the Galaxy level event.

Pretty much that. Add to the fact that it's another movie about people who shrink and you have a movie that's not something a lot of people feel the need to head to the theater to pay to see.

 

[InCali]

I'm NOT saying that Atom from DC:LOT is the sole reason why some people aren't interested in paying to watch AMATW in the theater. I'm saying that it is ONE of the reasons why that many people aren't all that interested in watching this movie. Shrinking (or tiny) characters (be they superheroes or in sci-fi and fantasy movies) has been done before in films and TV series. It's nothing new or different.


And whether or not Rudd is more interesting than Routh is a matter of one's own personal opinion. And even if more people find Rudd more appealing and interesting than Routh, it clearly hasn't helped AMATW box office.

The AMatW movie is doing just fine. Wonder what an Atom movie would make? LOL.

I liked LoT early on, but it wore on me. IMO Atom is just a less interesting character and that's probably why he's on TV.

 

[Hammer!]

The vast vast majority of people in the world have never even heard of legends of tomorrow or the Atom.

 

[SomeOldGuy]

This should be reposted on every page of this thread from this point forward.

Yup (h/t iEquinox).