Ant-Man and The Wasp Ant-Man and the Wasp - Box Office Discussion

[Iceman]

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^South Korea really stands out on that list. The first one made just over $20M there so that's a big improvement.

The other one that really stands out is India; the first one only made a little over $1.6M there.

Looks like the MCU has really taken hold in SK and India. SK was 2nd after China for IW I believe and India also broke out noticeably for it.

 

[seriesofdreams]

Solid take this weekend (beat some projections). Hopefully we'll see them tick up tomorrow.



Should be nipping at the original's heels after next weekend. I'll be seeing the film a second time next week. Looking forward to seeing the OS totals added to the cume.



Any updated ideas on where this thing is ending up domestically? $195-$200M?

 

[rayc1971]

If it crosses the 200 mil mark Domestically it wont be by much.

It looks like a 200-205 mil finish to me.
OS looks like 150 mil minimum left.

China will do 90-150 mil.
Rest of OS still has 50-80 mil left in the tank.

So 500 mil WW is a 100%.

China will be the deciding factor for the 600 mil mark.

200mill is fine the first did 180mill similar to thor 180mill thor2 206mill worldwide it will only have to pass 519mill to be more sucessful then the first film

 

[Iceman]

Yeah, 2 more weeks for us here in the UK.

I feel like by the time I've seen it and come here on the HYPE in excitement, everyone will have moved on

Yeah, gonna feel a bit silly getting excited after everyone else has forgotten it. Have we ever had something this late before?

 

[seriesofdreams]

Yeah, gonna feel a bit silly getting excited after everyone else has forgotten it. Have we ever had something this late before?

One can still be excited. Better late than never, maybe?

 

[Iceman]

One can still be excited. Better late than never, maybe?

Better late than never sure, just doesn’t feel like as big of an event now.

 

[seriesofdreams]

Better late than never sure, just doesn’t feel like as big of an event now.

Understood.

I guess I was trying to go the "everyone wants everything now" route but I suppose there's a big exception when it comes to the films with devoted followings.


Do we have China release date yet?

 

[Iceman]

Understood.

I guess I was trying to go the "everyone wants everything now" route but I suppose there's a big exception when it comes to the films with devoted followings.


Do we have China release date yet?

Yeah. I don't mind seeing most films later if I have to but with these genre films I'd much rather be able to get excited and talk about them with everyone on here at the same time after anticipating them for ages.

 

[samsnee]

Can this still make $200 million domestic? Seems like it’s slowing down.

 

[iEquinox]

Can this still make $200 million domestic? Seems like it’s slowing down.

Yeah it can, seems more likely than not now. It just had a really good hold.

Looks like it even has a pretty realistic shot at getting the best legs out of all 10 MCU sequels now(needs $207.25M to do that). That'd be a nice milestone to hit. Let's see how well it holds going up against Mission Impossible next weekend.

 

[KangConquers]

Can this still make $200 million domestic? Seems like it’s slowing down.

It's actually catching up with Thor TDW after an initial deficit. I think $215 is possible as a high end.

 

[seriesofdreams]

^I thought the same, but now I'm seeing how much traction Fallout is gaining. Looks like it could really break out.



It will be interesting to see how M:I Fallout does compared to Rogue Nation. The last 2 films were basically critically reviewed the same with very similar box office takes. Just curious if it has an X-Men-like ceiling of sorts. Fallout looks to be getting the same excellent reviews (if not, better..) will interesting to see if it cracks that $60M+ nut and breaks out more so than it's predecessors.


More on point, this past weekends hold was better than I expected, which bodes well for AMATW for cracking $200M. For a franchise of this size, I think that's a realistic expectation and hopefully we're looking at perhaps....$550M?

 

[Fallen]

Do we have China release date yet?

Nope.

Several major Hollywood tentpoles have yet to be scheduled for release in China. Marvel and Disney's Ant-Man and the Wasp is expected to open sometime in August, but still doesn't have a date.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/mamma-mia-here-we-go-again-scores-china-release-date-1127977

 

[SomeOldGuy]

More on point, this past weekends hold was better than I expected, which bodes well for AMATW for cracking $200M. For a franchise of this size, I think that's a realistic expectation and hopefully we're looking at perhaps....$550M?

At this point I’d say that 550 is a lock. Just with domestic plus current OS markets it will make it over 400, and Ant-Man did about $154 million in the markets yet to open. I’d say 570-580 is the floor now, with 600 still very much on the table.

 

[ironman_rick]

comeon....no way this movie does less than 600M if it opens in china.

 

[SomeOldGuy]

comeon....no way this movie does less than 600M if it opens in china.

Oh, I’m pretty confident it will get there (and it 100% will get a China release) just staying conservative for the moment. There’s a fair amount of competition coming and while it’s running strongly ahead of Ant-Man in most OS markets I’m not sure it will increase to the same extent in China, which is where most of its OS dollars remain. ~$50 million WW above the first movie is basically my worst case scenario right now.

 

[TheVileOne]

Had a much lower drop this weekend. Appears to be stabilizing. It's easily surpassing the original domestically. That's a win for Marvel IMHO.

Ant-Man and the Wasp was never going to pull the bigger numbers, but these are very impressive fro this franchise.

 

[AvengerPA]

I think that we will see Ant-Man 3, but it won't be until 2022 at least. Marvel will do two sequels and one original movie every year. The sequels for 2019 will be Avengers 5 and Spider-Man: Far From Home. The sequels for 2020 will be Guardians 3 and Doctor Strange 2. The sequels for 2021 will be Black Panther 2 and Spider-Man 3.

 

[iEquinox]

OS came in higher than estimated this weekend with $22,341,647 for an OS total of $189,588,432. With a standard multiplier off of that weekend, $230M+ seems likely in this set of markets.

The first Ant-Man made another $155M in the markets AM&tW hasn't opened yet, with over $105M of that coming from China, and about half of the other $50M coming from the UK.
So if it gets $230M+ in current markets and it matches the first Ant-Man in the remaining territories, it would end up with $385M+ OS.

$600M+ is still a realistic target, just needs either a slight increase in the remaining markets or strong late legs in current markets to get there.

 

[iEquinox]

The domestic weekend also came in a slightly higher than estimated with $16,507,156(-43.3%). Really good hold. For comparison, Homecoming dropped 49.9% on its third weekend while the first Ant-Man dropped 48.6%. Next weekend it'll face what should be its toughest competition(Mission Impossible: Fallout), so let's see how well it holds up against that. So far the legs are looking good.

It'll also pass the first Ant-Man's domestic total next weekend.

Exact totals after Sunday:

Domestic: $165,005,448
+ Foreign: $189,588,432
= Worldwide: $354,593,880

 

[SomeOldGuy]

I’m actually a touch more concerned about Teen Titans Go to the Movies than I am about MI. Seems to be aimed right at the same family demo, while MI will skew a bit older. Either way though it’s likely to get pinched from both sides.

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

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[Stark Bauer]

Great Monday AMATW best Thor 2 again...looking to soon match its total day to day...it has a strong chance of beating Thor 2 I believe

 

[Flint Marko]

Great Monday AMATW best Thor 2 again...looking to soon match its total day to day...it has a strong chance of beating Thor 2 I believe

Beating Thor 2 domestically would be pretty impressive for Ant-man.

 

[iEquinox]

I’m actually a touch more concerned about Teen Titans Go to the Movies than I am about MI. Seems to be aimed right at the same family demo, while MI will skew a bit older. Either way though it’s likely to get pinched from both sides.

I highly doubt Teen Titans will come anywhere close to Mission Impossible next weekend though, so unless I'm severely underestimating Teen Titans, any effects of differences in demographics will be completely overruled by the sheer size difference.

Great Monday AMATW best Thor 2 again...looking to soon match its total day to day...it has a strong chance of beating Thor 2 I believe

Yeah, it's less than $1M away from catching up to it after Tuesday. Going to take a while longer to fully catch up to it though because of Thor 2's Thanksgiving boost.

I'd also bet on AM&tW outgrossing Thor 2's $206.4M DOM at this point. Once it catches up, it should be able to keep/extend its lead.