Anyone else a fan of both Hulk movies?

[VoodooMagic]

It seems like the two movies have drastically split fans down the middle. One side liking the fast paced action focused TIH and others respecting the process that went into making Hulk.

I think both movies are solid 7.5's and oddly they both suffer where the other one succeeds. There have been many better comic book movies but also many worse.

My dream is that they figure out how to blend both worlds. The break neck action from TIH with the acting and character development of Hulk and truly get the big green guy to find a home in a film franchise.

Ruffalo seems like a solid actor, hopefully he would consider making a Hulk movie, maybe they can get Jennifer Connelly from Hulk and William Hurt from TIH to reprise their roles.

One thing I've noticed that might help out a lot is getting Rick Jones in the mix. The story of a lot of the Hulk movies falls flat once Hulk turns into Hulk, it might not be a bad idea for him to have a side kick that can communicate for him or something.

Also, motion capture I think will help out a lot too, in trying to obtain a realistic (as possible) looking Hulk.

 

[Lord]

As a movie i found Ang Lee's version superior and a great piece of cinema (please don't laugh when i say this), while TIH was a better Hulk movie

 

[DarthDaveBanner]

The 1977 movie is still the best one, though I did enjoy the other 2 to a certain degree. Ang's is spectacularly well made.

 

[November Rain]

going from hulk to the incredible hulk is like going from batman tas to the batman.

and that's from a the batman fan (especially seasons 3 and 4)

 

[November Rain]

As a movie i found Ang Lee's version superior and a great piece of cinema (please don't laugh when i say this), while TIH was a better Hulk movie

well tih had to be a better hulk movie, ang lee's version was pretty much nothing to do with the hulk but just starrred the hulk in it.

it was like burton's batman films, especially batman returns.

batman returns and hulk funnily enough are one of my favourite set of superhero movies or should i say films which portray superheroes in them

but none of them at all conventionally accurate. heck, i'm not sure donner's superman film was conventionally accurate either.

even though tih is more conventionally accurate, it still misses some of the major balls considering the amount of talk that was said about being 'faithful' and shunning the mistakes that came with it.

 

[Lord]

going from hulk to the incredible hulk is like going from batman tas to the batman.

and that's from a the batman fan (especially seasons 3 and 4)

Out of thread, i enjoyed the batman in some aspects, like the designs were good for some villains but not for the joker, he seemed like joker's pet, other thing i didn't like was some simplicity they used for the villains back ground, and i'm referring to mr freeze, and that they made poison ivy a teenager or wathever, for the rest it was an interesting show

 

[Chewy]

I like TIH and I hate AngHulk

 

[November Rain]

Out of thread, i enjoyed the batman in some aspects, like the designs were good for some villains but not for the joker, he seemed like joker's pet, other thing i didn't like was some simplicity they used for the villains back ground, and i'm referring to mr freeze, and that they made poison ivy a teenager or wathever, for the rest it was an interesting show

Spoiler

I am one of the few that loved the joker from the batman, what nailed it for me was his role in the laughing bat




and i definitely liked how bruce wayne wasn't a facade in the batman but just another aspect of the whole package. i also liked how he wasn't a total philantropist and he actually did want to do good things with his money and wayne industries and it wasn't all an act.

freeze didn't start getting good till the future ep they put him in.

and i loved robin in this show as well.

off topic discussion, don't mind me

 

[Kirmit]

I like both films but for different reasons, Ang's Hulk being more of a story, makes you think, gets your brain working, whereas TIH was the action fest that you expect to see in a Hulk movie. With that said, watching the deleted scenes from TIH, I do feel a directors cut/Norton cut of TIH would be close to the perfect Hulk movie.

 

[Metallo]

I'm another person who liked Hulk and The Incredible Hulk. Like you said ones strength seemed to be the others weakness and vice versa. The middle ground is definitely where they need to go to help any future Hulk movie while of course crafting a well written story, good direction, etc.

I was never a person who was "one or the other" with the Hulk movies but I always wished elements of each had been injected into the other. Even with the casting I thought one got it better than the other. I liked Connolly as Betty but I liked Hurt more as General Ross. With Banner I'm sort of split. Norton and Bana both did some good things and had some flaws in their performances. I thought Bana was good at showing a man with some psychological scars but Norton gave Banner a humanity that made you feel sympathy for him.

I found both movies good but lacking in different areas.

 

[Gamma Ra]

While I truly enjoyed both movies, neither was or had a good representation of the Hulk.

The 2003 Hulk had a solid story. I liked the Banner story in Lee's Hulk movie and all his characters were well defined with all their motives well characterized. I hated the Hulk's height, 15 ft for the Hulk is way too tall, I hated the madder he gets taller he gets crap, the design is not how I would have ever envisioned the Hulk, and I truly hate any Hulk that is not verbal enough to hold a conversation, however little some incarnations care to speak. In other words Hulk was too far off from the character that I've grown to love reading every month. Ang took too many liberties, to me the movie was not the Hulk but Angry Man.

The 2008 Letterier movie to me was a well done typical safe no brainer 1980 action flick with many holes. Most of the characters were underdeveloped and a lot of what would have made them more interesting and gave them credibility was in the extra cut out footage. The biggest problem was lack of character development. I loved the design of that Hulk and thought it was about as good as you could get in terms of physical appearance. But Hulk

 

[VoodooMagic]

While I truly enjoyed both movies, neither was or had a good representation of the Hulk.

The 2003 Hulk had a solid story. I liked the Banner story in Lee's Hulk movie and all his characters were well defined with all their motives well characterized. I hated the Hulk's height, 15 ft for the Hulk is way too tall, I hated the madder he gets taller he gets crap, the design is not how I would have ever envisioned the Hulk, and I truly hate any Hulk that is not verbal enough to hold a conversation, however little some incarnations care to speak. In other words Hulk was too far off from the character that I've grown to love reading every month. Ang took too many liberties, to me the movie was not the Hulk but Angry Man.

The 2008 Letterier movie to me was a well done typical safe no brainer 1980 action flick with many holes. Most of the characters were underdeveloped and a lot of what would have made them more interesting and gave them credibility was in the extra cut out footage. The biggest problem was lack of character development. I loved the design of that Hulk and thought it was about as good as you could get in terms of physical appearance. But Hulk

My 2 big 2008 problems to piggy back on what you said.

1.) This is the easier of the two fixes: Hulk at night=amazing. Hulk during the day=less than stellar

2.) Character development was bad, but even worse i felt was the chemistry between the actors. It felt as if everyone filmed their scenes individually without anyone else in the room.

 

[Midnyte_Sun]

I loved both movies, both versions, and am disappointed that they did not get sequels. Ang Lee's Hulk had character, had a great origin sequence, and everything but the last action sequence was spectacular. TIH was just awesome from start to finish. The action was intense, it was suspenseful, it blended perfectly with the rest of the marvel universe, and the last fight was brutal. I'm so pissed off there is no sequel in the works.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I too love both movies, its just that I consider Ang's movie to be superior, I loved how deeply it delved into the psychology of Banner/Hulk as a character, and for me, it also had the better action scene's of the 2 movies with the exceptions of the final fight.

Loved TIH as well, but didnt find as faithful to the comics and just simply didnt enjoy it as much, I own both movies on BD and watch them quite though.

 

[Lord]

The way Ang Lee reinterpretated made the movie seem like if he was creating Ultimate Hulk, a complete revamp of the character (i'm not saying he looks like hulk from ultimates, i'm saying that he looks like a complete revamp of the character) and i think the final fight scenne wasn't supposed to be much punshing, it was just supposed be more emotional in the end.

 

[kedrell]

I like TIH and I hate AngHulk

I agree and I had problems with TIH as well(mostly with the continuation of Hulk as a non-character). But AngHulk is the worst comic book movie I have ever seen in my entire life(and I've seen probably 95% of them that exist) and one of the worst movies of any genre I have ever seen.

 

[VoodooMagic]

I will admit it's tough to root for AL's Hulk once the Hulk-Dogs show up

 

[VoodooMagic]

I loved both movies, both versions, and am disappointed that they did not get sequels. Ang Lee's Hulk had character, had a great origin sequence, and everything but the last action sequence was spectacular. TIH was just awesome from start to finish. The action was intense, it was suspenseful, it blended perfectly with the rest of the marvel universe, and the last fight was brutal. I'm so pissed off there is no sequel in the works.

My guess is they are waiting to see if Avengers can boost the character's interest.

I think the biggest problem with the Hulk is it seems like they have tried to ground the character in the real world. Much like Thor (which I am glad the word is we will be spending not a whole lot of time on Earth in the sequels) he is a larger than life character and I think it needs a larger than life story/villain. Enough military stuff. It feels too small. Iron Man can work as a "Small scale story (and what i mean by that is it can be focused on Stark and his issues)" because that is what works best for that character.

But I think a new movie should involve Banner learning to live with it, and accept it. Maybe he even gets a little cocky, but maybe his cockiness causes him to be reckless and he realizes he needs to respect the Hulk. Something like that.

Hulk is probably my personal favorite avenger, so getting the franchise on track would be ideal for me

 

[Ahura Mazda]

I liked both for what they were even though I do not think either was a masterpeice.

 

[kedrell]

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

TIH = a decent Hulk movie

Ang's Hulk = zzzzzzzzzzzzz

 

[DarthDaveBanner]

I don't get the hate for the Hulk dogs. They were straight out of the comics!

 

[Snikt]

At the time, when I was younger, I was just happy to see so many Marvel characters being brought to life; so yes I enjoyed HULK quite a bit.

However, as I got older I began to find it difficult to sit through HULK. Very very boring and not much happens for almost an hour.

After I saw The Incredible Hulk, I was completely satisfied. It reminded me of the TV series (which was the point), made me care about Banner and gave the Hulk a formidable enemy.

IMO, TIH has the best climatic battle sequence of all the Marvel Studios movies.

But I still loved Hulk vs. the Tanks in Ang Lee's HULK

 

[kedrell]

I don't get the hate for the Hulk dogs. They were straight out of the comics!

They appeared once as I recall and that was it. And they were never a good idea even in the comics. It's not like everything that happens in the comics IS a good idea after all. For that movie to choose to use such an obscure bit as the Hulk dogs to put in their movie was just

 

[Lord]

They appeared once as I recall and that was it. And they were never a good idea even in the comics. It's not like everything that happens in the comics IS a good idea after all. For that movie to choose to use such an obscure bit as the Hulk dogs to put in their movie was just

Isn't The Amazing Spider-Man going to use an obscure character too?
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