The Amazing Spider-Man Anyone hate the shoes?

A lot of movies have been inspired by the approach of Batman Begins including Iron Man and X-Men First Class.

Dude, you're giving far too much credit to that movie. Iron Man and First Class had nothing in common with Begins, except dealing with wealthy people who become superheroes. They owe more to Batman '89 than Begins. The approaches were totally different. First Class was really the same as X1 & 2. Just a different story.
 
The suit is in the comics, starting with Amazing Fantasy #15. And what "realistic thing" are you talking about? There's nothing realistic about Spider-Man's world. There is no suit which would be "realistic" for him. He's an agility-based character and he wears a costume that makes it easy for him to move, similar to any acrobat. Because this is fantasy he's given a colorful costume with a spidery theme to it.

He doesn't need running shoes because:
1. Heavy running isn't apart of his normal activity (Unlike, say, the Flash). The kind of soles on the ASM suit are if you're running or jogging for miles at a time.
2. It would logically interfere with his natural climbing ability, which while never having been thoroughly explained (Although to correct someone, the bards in the Raimi films have been mentioned in the comics), regardless is generated from his skin. And there's no way he'd be making any useful contact through those thick soles.
3. In the comics, the boots have always been portrayed as having a thin layer at the sole, not as being merely stockings.
4. Being superhuman Spidey's muscle and bone structure would have to be more dense than a normal human. He doesn't need the same kind of protection.
I was talking about materials and construction, not design. And by realistic, I mean making it look like something he could afford.
 
Dude, you're giving far too much credit to that movie. Iron Man and First Class had nothing in common with Begins, except dealing with wealthy people who become superheroes. They owe more to Batman '89 than Begins. The approaches were totally different. First Class was really the same as X1 & 2. Just a different story.

You're giving less credit to Batman Begins if you think they never inspired Iron Man and First Class in any way. Even the respective directors have mentioned inspiration from Batman Begins.
 
Dude, you're giving far too much credit to that movie. Iron Man and First Class had nothing in common with Begins, except dealing with wealthy people who become superheroes. They owe more to Batman '89 than Begins. The approaches were totally different. First Class was really the same as X1 & 2. Just a different story.

I'm just quoting the directors, mate. They said they were inspired by Begins in their approach to doing those movies.
 
I'm just quoting the directors, mate. They said they were inspired by Begins in their approach to doing those movies.

Yeah, like the way Stan Lee loves every movie made with his characters.

It's public relations. There's nothing on the screen to suggest them looking to Begins. The things that made Begins unique aren't on the screen in Iron Man or First Class.
 
Yeah, like the way Stan Lee loves every movie made with his characters.

It's public relations. There's nothing on the screen to suggest them looking to Begins. The things that made Begins unique aren't on the screen in Iron Man or First Class.

he didn´t like Daredevil i guess
 
Yeah, like the way Stan Lee loves every movie made with his characters.

It's public relations. There's nothing on the screen to suggest them looking to Begins. The things that made Begins unique aren't on the screen in Iron Man or First Class.

Well that's a bit different don't you think. Stan has a personal investment in those movies because they're his creations being used in them. Not to mention he scores himself a cameo in them, too, all the time. Vaughn and Favreau don't have anything to do with Nolan or Batman Begins.
 
Well that's a bit different don't you think. Stan has a personal investment in those movies because they're his creations being used in them. Not to mention he scores himself a cameo in them, too, all the time. Vaughn and Favreau don't have anything to do with Nolan or Batman Begins.

Yeah, but it's a small business. It's better to praise a hot director than not.
Again- what do you actually see on screen in those films that reflects anything unique to Begins?
 
Again- what do you actually see on screen in those films that reflects anything unique to Begins?
Taking itself more seriously than not, reinvigorating a franchise or starting off with a fresh, clean slate or something that hasn't been done before, all of which were done with Batman Begins. It both took itself more seriously than not, it reinvigorated the franchise and started with a fresh clean slate (i.e. they told the origin instead of just showing it in flashbacks, they didn't make the villains overpower the main character like they did in all previous films before it)
 
Well that's a bit different don't you think. Stan has a personal investment in those movies because they're his creations being used in them. Not to mention he scores himself a cameo in them, too, all the time. Vaughn and Favreau don't have anything to do with Nolan or Batman Begins.

:up:

Yeah, but it's a small business. It's better to praise a hot director than not.
Again- what do you actually see on screen in those films that reflects anything unique to Begins?

If they were going to praise Nolan, they would have just mentioned the critically-acclaimed The Dark Knight(don't know which was released first between TDK and IM, so I guess my point is more towards First Class), though, not really specifically mentioning Batman Begins as they did.
 
Taking itself more seriously than not, reinvigorating a franchise or starting off with a fresh, clean slate or something that hasn't been done before, all of which were done with Batman Begins. It both took itself more seriously than not, it reinvigorated the franchise and started with a fresh clean slate (i.e. they told the origin instead of just showing it in flashbacks, they didn't make the villains overpower the main character like they did in all previous films before it)

First off, those aren't artistic choices.

Secondly, Raimi's Spider-Man had covered all of that. And since Iron Man was a new franchise and First Class technically a new franchise they wouldn't have been concerned with reinvigorating anything. Moreover, Iron Man hardly took itself seriously. The same case with First Class.

Anno_Domini said:
If they were going to praise Nolan, they would have just mentioned the critically-acclaimed The Dark Knight(don't know which was released first between TDK and IM, so I guess my point is more towards First Class), though, not really specifically mentioning Batman Begins as they did.

Iron Man was released first. And they'd more likely compare themselves with Begins simply because they were origin films. But it doesn't change the fact that in terms of tone, style and characterization those films were nothing like Begins.
 
First off, those aren't artistic choices.

Secondly, Raimi's Spider-Man had covered all of that. And since Iron Man was a new franchise and First Class technically a new franchise they wouldn't have been concerned with reinvigorating anything. Moreover, Iron Man hardly took itself seriously. The same case with First Class.



Iron Man was released first. And they'd more likely compare themselves with Begins simply because they were origin films. But it doesn't change the fact that in terms of tone, style and characterization those films were nothing like Begins.
First off, they ARE are artistic choices. #2. So they didn't take themselves seriously? I don't recall those movies being campy by any means as you are clearly implying.
 
First off, they ARE are artistic choices. #2. So they didn't take themselves seriously? I don't recall those movies being campy by any means as you are clearly implying.

"Not serious" does not equal "campy". He's just saying that for the most part, there was a lightheartedness, fun and plenty of jokes within those movies, even within the the "darker" moments.
 
"Not serious" does not equal "campy". He's just saying that for the most part, there was a lightheartedness, fun and plenty of jokes within those movies, even within the the "darker" moments.
It still took itself seriously. I never said that it was dark, I just said that it was serious.
 
I wasn't arguing that it didn't have its serious moments (which is what I was referring to when I said "within even its 'darker' moments" - perhaps the wrong choice of words). I was only pointing out that he was clearly NOT calling the films campy, and that not serious is not the same thing as campy, as your assumption of his post suggests.
 
I still hate the shoes, but the gloves I got over. I think they SHOULD go back to the old Spider-Man look with the traditional gloves and boots, but that's just me.
 
begins didn't create serious lol the first x men film was pretty serious and dark aswell as grounded in reality
 
begins didn't create serious lol the first x men film was pretty serious and dark aswell as grounded in reality

There have been other serious superhero films, but begins did ground it in reality to an extreme. To say Iron Man wasn't influenced is just wrong, I remember when I was 15 and I saw Iron Man for the first time in theaters I remember thinking "oohhh this is like Batman, but with Iron Man." The first film really did seem like it set up a world where superpowers don't exist and everything could happen if we had the technology. I can see where you wouldn't see influence in first class, but if Matthew Vaughn said it, I buy it.
 
I still hate the shoes, but the gloves I got over. I think they SHOULD go back to the old Spider-Man look with the traditional gloves and boots, but that's just me.

The gloves were really never a problem for me. I actually liked the gloves. My two biggest concerns were the shoes and that we didn't get a full wrap around "belt" around Spidey's waist, but I got over the "belt", but the shoes still bug me to this day.

begins didn't create serious lol the first x men film was pretty serious and dark aswell as grounded in reality

X-Men? Ehh....that machine Magneto created says otherwise...
 
There have been other serious superhero films, but begins did ground it in reality to an extreme. To say Iron Man wasn't influenced is just wrong, I remember when I was 15 and I saw Iron Man for the first time in theaters I remember thinking "oohhh this is like Batman, but with Iron Man." The first film really did seem like it set up a world where superpowers don't exist and everything could happen if we had the technology. I can see where you wouldn't see influence in first class, but if Matthew Vaughn said it, I buy it.

Iron Man was very much like Iron Man in the comics. Sure, some changes to Stark's personality but he and his world was definitely not made to be Batman-wannabe no matter how much you want that or not.

That's not to say it wasn't inspired by Nolan's Batman. Nolan's Batman inspired other studios to realise that superhero films should be very serious projects because they can deliver great stories as well as other films can. To have humour, but necessary humour that's not only cheese packed fluff.
 
Seriously, the last thing I was thinking about or comparing to was Batman when I saw Iron Man in theaters.
 
The classic is classic and all that, yes, we know. To answer the thread title, I thought the shoes worn by Spider-Man in this incarnation were fine. I liked them.
 
Dude, you're giving far too much credit to that movie. Iron Man and First Class had nothing in common with Begins, except dealing with wealthy people who become superheroes. They owe more to Batman '89 than Begins. The approaches were totally different. First Class was really the same as X1 & 2. Just a different story.

:up:
 
You're giving less credit to Batman Begins if you think they never inspired Iron Man and First Class in any way. Even the respective directors have mentioned inspiration from Batman Begins.

Did they?
Source?
 

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