anyone think it was strange that storm turned on jean instantly?

[JeanGrey12]

I don't know, but they were best friends right? And after Jean killed the Profesor, Storm just turned on her like that. I mean I would have thought that being that they were friends, she would have understood the split personalities more and realized that it really was the Phoneix side of her, not Jean. I understand Storm was greatly upset by the loss of the Profesor but it still surprises me. Thoughts?

Also, I added a poll, just out of curosity on who people like better, Storm or Jean. Please don't turn this post into a war on who is better tho. As you can guess I prefer Jean as she has been my favorite marvel character since I discovered Xmen when I was little.

Jean Grey Rocks

 

[Electrix]

So after Jean kills Scott and the Professor...the main men in her life and a father figure, she is supposed to give Jean a chance? After what Jean has done she wont be allowed back in the school. All the students will have know what she has done and she herself probably wouldnt forgive herself.

Storm has a school to run and people to look after. She cant risk giving Jean a chance that she might be friendly.

 

[bruja_escarlata]

Electrix has a point there, still I love Jean so I would give her another chance....but I agree with the fact that what Jean has done is way to big to say: hey, let´s forget it and watch the TV?.....still, the fact that Jean would not be accepted again in the school makes me wonder if there could be a return of Jean in a possible X4 (if that movie is filmed)....apart from the problem with bringing her back to life and all that, she wouldn´t find it easy to return to the school.
Maybe Xavier could forgive her, but Storm? She was too angry with her old friend....Logan would forgive her...

I would have liked a Jean against Storm fight to let it all out, so they could at least have had more interaction in the film, they do not speak to each other at all, or I am wrong? I do not remember them speaking in any scene....

 

[Goddessreicho]

How do we know that they were close friends? Storm was never explained in the movies. For all we know they could have been complete strangers or mere aquantinces (sp?).


Oh this is the third ******ed thread made by a Phoinex obessor about Storm. It's getting irratating.

Edit now this crap can be merged...along with the other from earlier...jeez

 

[weatherwitch]

Storm is a B I T C H... but that is because Halle played her... Halle is a B I T C H
Jean rocks.....
And yeah it was weird

That had better be sarcasm if you want that avatar. LOL.

 

[Avalanche]

It's not strange, no. Jean killed two of the most important people in Storm's life. Two of the only people who ever meant anything to her. She realised Jean had to be stopped.

 

[micky-fox]

Storm is a B I T C H... but that is because Halle played her... Halle is a B I T C H
Jean rocks.....
And yeah it was weird

That's coming from someone who wants a 'Young X-Men' spin-off with Bobby and Rogue as the leads.

It's not strange, no. Jean killed two of the most important people in Storm's life. Two of the only people who ever meant anything to her. She realised Jean had to be stopped.

I agree. People here are forgetting that the real Jean was actually suffering...

 

[weatherwitch]

I don't know, but they were best friends right? And after Jean killed the Profesor, Storm just turned on her like that. I mean I would have thought that being that they were friends, she would have understood the split personalities more and realized that it really was the Phoneix side of her, not Jean. I understand Storm was greatly upset by the loss of the Profesor but it still surprises me. Thoughts?

Also, I added a poll, just out of curosity on who people like better, Storm or Jean. Please don't turn this post into a war on who is better tho. As you can guess I prefer Jean as she has been my favorite marvel character since I discovered Xmen when I was little.

Jean Grey Rocks

I think if my best friend murdered my father, and another of my best friends, I wouldn't care if her "bad" half did it. There would be no forgiveness, and no leniency. Especially if I had other lives at stake that were my responsibility to care for. Come on. If your best friend whacked your Dad, you'd be ok?

 

[micky-fox]

I think if my best friend murdered my father, and another of my best friends, I wouldn't care if her "bad" half did it. There would be no forgiveness, and no lenienc. Especially if I had other lives at stake that were my responsibility to care for. Come on. If your best friend whacked your Dad, you'd be ok?

I certainly wouldn't. I'm actually amazed at how strong Storm was through all of that. We all know she cared for them all... they were her family and Prof. X was murdered and Scott was murdered... they were like her father and brother figures... Not to mention Jean was trapped, and they all knew there would be little or no way for her to get out of it. Storm accepted the situation, remained strong, and knew what had to be done to save her best friend.

 

[Goddessreicho]

No no no, stop it with the logic.

We all know that Storm is incapable of doing anything of signifigance or decent...

Good thing protecting a school full of children and securing thier home doesn't count.

 

[Honey Vibe]

Seriously, I think Storm had a lot on her mind. The school, Magneto -- she had to handle all these situations herself.

 

[BMM]

How do we know that they were close friends? Storm was never explained in the movies. For all we know they could have been complete strangers or mere aquantinces (sp?).


Oh this is the third ******ed thread made by a Phoinex obessor about Storm. It's getting irratating.

Edit now this crap can be merged...along with the other from earlier...jeez

Given that it was stated in the first X-Men movie that Scott, Storm, and Jean (among others) were some of Xavier's first students, I highly don't they are complete strangers or mere acquaintances . . . actually, complete strangers is out of the question . . . and given their relationship as demonstrated via their friendship and concern for one another in X2, I somehow doubt they are mere acquaintances either . . .

Regardless, I think it was a missed opportunity not to have Storm be able to show much concern for Jean . . . especially considering Storm was supposed to be more "in character" in The Last Stand, which I didn't find to be the case via her abandonment of Jean (although I can understand her reasons why). That was one of the things that I heavily dislike about the portrayal of the Dark Phoenix Saga as a whole. With the exception of Wolverine, none of the X-Men seemed to give a damn about Jean . . . and none of them were even given the opportunity to have any interaction with her . . . Haha--so much for being a part of a team I guess. Jean was right, she didn't have a home.

 

[Goddessreicho]

Um...she killed 1/2 the adults that lived there, and as long as she couldn't control herself everyone else who lived there was in danger.

So technically, she busted her own home, twice.

Ok mebbe it was DP, but the bottom line is the statement above.\

Edit: If you where a student at Xavier's, how would you feel about Jean coming back? If you value your own life it would make sense for you to say, "Hey, wait a minute here!"

 

[weatherwitch]

Given that it was stated in the first X-Men movie that Scott, Storm, and Jean (among others) were some of Xavier's first students, I highly don't they are complete strangers or mere acquaintances . . . actually, complete strangers is out of the question . . . and given their relationship as demonstrated via their friendship and concern for one another in X2, I somehow doubt they are mere acquaintances either . . .

Regardless, I think it was a missed opportunity not to have Storm be able to show much concern for Jean . . . especially considering Storm was supposed to be more "in character" in The Last Stand, which I didn't find to be the case via her abandonment of Jean (although I can understand her reasons why). That was one of the things that I heavily dislike about the portrayal of the Dark Phoenix Saga as a whole. With the exception of Wolverine, none of the X-Men seemed to give a damn about Jean . . . and none of them were even given the opportunity to have any interaction with her . . . Haha--so much for being a part of a team I guess. Jean was right, she didn't have a home.

Did you read Endsong? I get the impression that was more the Phoenix Story that X3 was screwing up. Or a combo of it and the original. And in Endsong, Storm tells Kurt, quite clearly, that they should consider the option of helping the Shi'ar destroy Phoenix (Jean).

 

[BMM]

Did you read Endsong? I get the impression that was more the Phoenix Story that X3 was screwing up. Or a combo of it and the original. And in Endsong, Storm tells Kurt, quite clearly, that they should consider the option of helping the Shi'ar destroy Phoenix (Jean).

Yes, I have read Endsong, but I think The Last Stand was attempting to tell The Dark Phoenix storyline . . . and I feel there is a difference between the once again galaxy/universe destroying Phoenix (who has long since continued to cause trouble among the X-Men's lives by the point of Endsong--honestly, if I were Storm I would want to get Phoenix out of the way once and for all too) than the Jean Grey, former friend and teammate, who is slipping away for the first time in her life.

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

Storm is a B I T C H... but that is because Halle played her... Halle is a B I T C H
Jean rocks.....
And yeah it was weird

Male Rogue,

If I tell you one more time to stop bypassing the language sensors, you will lose the ability to post here for a month.

Now try me.

 

[RagingTempest]

Storm is a B I T C H... but that is because Halle played her... Halle is a B I T C H
Jean rocks.....
And yeah it was weird

Ummm, Halle didn't write her lines!!!

Ummm, Jean killed Scott and the Professor and joined Magneto!!! How do you reason with that?

 

[ThE_PhOeNiX]

Storm is a hater its so obvious she's jelous of jean that goes for halle being jelous of famke.

 

[DarknessOfDeath]

For a second I thought "How did Storm turn on Jean?" LOL
easy...she flashed herself at her...?

And in Endsong, Storm tells Kurt, quite clearly, that they should consider the option of helping the Shi'ar destroy Phoenix (Jean).

what?

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

Storm is a hater its so obvious she's jelous of jean that goes for halle being jelous of famke.

*sigh*

No.

COMICS:
Storm has led the X-Men for the greater part of 30 years. She is the most respected female of the team. Jean has never once laid claim to those privelege. To this day (in 616 terms) Storm is lauded as a goddess and is currently living. Jean is dead. Both women had a tight, sisterly bond. So tell me again, why would Storm be jealous of Jean?

MOVIES:
Halle Berry got $17 million for X3 as well as top 2 billing. She is an Oscar-winner and known by name/face-value throughout the world. Most people off the street do not even know how to pronounce "Famke", not to mention the actress has never achieved anything close to the former's accomplishments. So why would Halle Berry be jealous of Famke Janssen?

REALITY:
Both characters and actresses are loved and praised for what they bring to this franchise. Only in the fanboy world would the kind of "issues" you speak about above exist. Let's be realistic here.

 

[S7ilver]

I'd think Storm was spineless if she just decided to forgive Jean; she murdered, obliterated, vaporized, atomized, demoleculerized her father symbol and closest X-Man friend. She can't just be let off the hook..

 

[gambitfire]

Well while it is true that they never explored the nature of their friendship i did feel like she turned on her awfully quickly. I mean considering she was around Mystique and Magneto in X2 she didn't act so hostile towards them although yes the circumstances where different.

Also i felt she understood that what was happening to Jean was strange and bad, so i didn't take her switch that well i felt it was conveniently written.

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

I'd think Storm was spineless if she just decided to forgive Jean; she murdered, obliterated, vaporized, atomized, demoleculerized her father symbol and closest X-Man friend. She can't just be let off the hook..

Exactly.

Folks will say "Oh but Jean was crazy, she was schizo, bla-bla" but that doesn't negate the fact that dozens of people died at her hands in this film. Those people had families of their own left behind to mourn their passing. And even in the comics the X-Men show no mercy these days when it comes to the Phoenix--she has to be killed...or billions will pay the price for pulled punches.

Storm made the right decision in turning against Jean. Let us not forget that the nation was at war and Jean was the Brotherhood's weapon of mass destruction. So when emotions and risks run that high, you have to detach yourself and "do the right thing".

Sometimes people are a danger to themselves and everyone around them. Storm knows that.

 

[weatherwitch]

Storm is a hater its so obvious she's jelous of jean that goes for halle being jelous of famke.

Ahahahahahahahaha *wipes eyes* Wow. You're just three kinds of 'ed', ain't ya?

Nice reply, LS. I just don't have the patience or inclination to put up with it anymore. But then again, it's not my job.

 

[weatherwitch]

Well while it is true that they never explored the nature of their friendship i did feel like she turned on her awfully quickly. I mean considering she was around Mystique and Magneto in X2 she didn't act so hostile towards them although yes the circumstances where different.

Also i felt she understood that what was happening to Jean was strange and bad, so i didn't take her switch that well i felt it was conveniently written.

Why is eveyone like "oooh, Storm turned on Jean, oooooh." Uhm, JEAN turned. That's what happened. Not Storm, Jean.

Let's not forget the fact that for awhile Ororo believed Jean to be dead. She mourned the loss of her "sister". Phoenix was not that person to her. It's not really all that complicated.