Arnold Is Back for Terminator 5 - Part 1

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It seems like they are doing more of a remake of first film based on hollywood
reporter report.

Showing a bit more of John Connor leading forces In future.Possibly to help set up things since this is planned as trilogy from start.
Arnold as terminator sent to kill teenage Sarah Connor instead of adult woman
Teenage Kyle reese sent back to protect her and of ending up as lover and john's father.

I still question why have arnold In a reboot/remake.

Alan Taylor and producers apparently think they can do original film story better than James Cameron did:doh:
 
This is what I'm thinking from what we've heard and reality.

1. Terminator is not a massive franchise, nor has it been a huge franchise for 22 years. Most of the young people I know today have never seen, nor care to see Terminator. So if these people are looking to make money....which I bet they are. So many have no idea what Terminator is, nor the back story. Terminator Salvation and T3 convoluted the whole story and time line so extensively, it would be foolish, and just sloppy to try to "fix it" and have a sequel that tries to "erase the bad". So to me that indicates just with what I've seen it's a reboot.

2. The actresses/actors they have picked. Well we have a young Sarah Connor being picked, so it's not an old Sarah, we are going back to the beginning....which would be 1984. I doubt they are going to spend the money and effort to make this a "period" piece if they tried to make some pseudo alternate timeline type of thing. You can do that with Trek, because we don't go back in time to the "80's" But you can't with Terminator. So to me that's more proof it's not going to be a "soft" reboot. It's going to be a full on reboot because we have young Kyle, young Sarah, and a little bit older John Connor.

I doubt they will have a soft reboot that will....somehow make Sarah young in the present day? No they won't spend the money on retro-fitting everything. Which gets me to another point later. So with the people they are looking at it's clear they are going back to the beginning of it all with Sarah, because that's where it starts.

They are not going to make some pseudo sequel trying to explain everything with alternate timelines on top of already other altered timelines. With Trek it was clean, but this would be too convoluted to explain to a new audience that does not care as much about Terminator. So again I think that points more to a reboot. A more solid one. A soft-reboot having Sarah having John in present day would be too much of a stretch having a 30 year difference in the timeline and just say..."go with it."

It's cleaner and easier to get a new generation to love Terminator by just scrapping all the old and starting a-new. Showing the new generation what we loved about Terminator. And introducing them to it all. Because whether we think so or not, most the GA does not know much of the Terminator story anymore.

3. Money. They will not spend 200 million on this, it is in a very heavy competition market, so they will spend I bet 100-150 million, so it's not going to be I bet some massive future war movie, it will probably be smaller scale to start out, and that would hint more towards the Terminator 1 story line re-booted. Present time, make it easier cleaner, and cheaper because you don't "retro" everything back to the 80's.

So I'm hopeful for this movie, I'll be open to it until it comes out.

But with all these points I'm pretty sure they would not be doing themselves any favors unless they rebooted it. They want to make lots of money Megan spent her own money to buy this franchise. And TS did terrible in the BO. They are not going to risk by having some...sequel based off of two pretty hated films, and 2 great films that were released before most were born anymore.

Next to Episode VII and Interstellar I'm rooting for this one alongside them, but out of those three projects this one I'm most worried about.

But I hope with Megan behind them she makes the right choices.

Oh and last thing, it's called "Terminator" not Terminator 5. I hate how the PR had clearly stated that yet all these trades keep calling it T5.
 
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Alan Taylor and producers apparently think they can do original film story better than James Cameron did:doh:


I will give them a benefit of the doubt, and maybe make a film as good, probably not better. But as good.

That and Cameron could not do it anymore. Cameron can't make Cameron films of old anymore even if he wanted to.
 
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I like the Hardy suggestion. My personal choices for Reese and Sarah Connor are Guy Pearce and Charlize Theron, but they're probably a little older than what Taylor and the studio are looking for and fairly obvious.
 
A reboot is a hard thing to imagine when it comes to the Terminator franchise. Its something I had hoped to never see.

I think Rian johnson as director could do something pretty great.
 
Emilia Clarke and Brie Larson are in the running.....but also Tom Hardy as John Connor too?

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/terminator-reboot-casting-emilia-clarke-654772

Anyone ****ing their pants with news of Hardy being up for Connor....

remember how everyone came when Bale was announced as Conner. We all know how "well" that turned out.

Studio politics and a push over director will Always results in a mediocre - bad product.
Not saying that Taylor is a push over but it could go that way.
Hardy shouldn't look at at the paycheck but at the material itself. THe guy has promising career and he shouldn't let it go down the drain just for the money. If the script of T5 is good and if he's willing to give it everything he has , then kudos to him. Otherwise him ( or for that matter anyone) should just say no.
 
Given the troubling production rumours that surrounded Thor 2, and Taylor's comments to the press, he doesn't really seem to be the push-over type.
 
Didn't Arnold say they were having discussions with Furlong as well?
 
If Arnold is back as the Terminator like that report claims, they'd have to really sell a good story to justify my wanting to see it.
 
I don't think a Terminator reboot will ever even slightly touch the original for me, since that one is in my top 20 favorite movies ever. But I'm open minded and would be more than satisfied with a good and entertaining re-imagining. Especially since it could open up the concept and universe for possibilities it deserves, after T3 and TS not only convoluting it but also riddling it with bad plot points.
 
I was afrarid at some point the word "reboot" would be spoken, I am not a hater of them I just only have certain films I care to see done that way and The Terminator is not one of them. As a business I understand the reasons behind doing it this way and I suppose I'll have to just wait and see who is cast and what kind of story they come up with.
 
I was afrarid at some point the word "reboot" would be spoken, I am not a hater of them I just only have certain films I care to see done that way and The Terminator is not one of them. As a business I understand the reasons behind doing it this way and I suppose I'll have to just wait and see who is cast and what kind of story they come up with.

Now speaking as a massive fan, I used to think that. But Terminator needs a reboot. To me it's massively disrespectful to continue to try to make convoluted story lines fit around more convoluted story lines that weaken the masterpieces of T1 and T2. I can't stand how comics always try to do these very terrible ideas to try to make a square peg fit in a round hole.

Terminator Salvation (even if you liked it) was hated by the majority of people, critics, fans, GA etc. T3 was pretty disliked as well. To sit there IMO now and continue to spit on Cameron's work "trying" to make it "work" is even more disrespectful and just cheesy as hell. Making some story line where Earth 31 and timeline 45 and dimension 82 is just not Terminator. I'd rather them not try to "comicbook-ize the Terminator franchise just so they can say it's still part of the main franchise. To me it's much worse to make a sequel where so many of them have failed so bad already.

Also I don't get why most still call it "T5" it's not. That would be like me calling Batman Begins (still to this day) Batman 5. The PR has given it a name and it's simply "Terminator". I admit though there is massive confusion to as what this really is. But the title is simply Terminator.

But to me making a sequel to try to continue to fix the already messed up timelines, would be in my opinion further spitting on Cameron's work. Doing a reboot and creating your own universe based on the ideas is much cleaner in multiple ways and a chance to try to do something unique with the original ideas. Rather then just continuing to bend what Cameron had done.
 
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This Is not terminator 5.It reboots timeline so all 4 film+Sarah Connor Chronicles
never happened.

It also looks like this Is basicly remake of original which will bring 1984 Vs 2015
versions arguements.

The big chances seem to be from originals seem to be
showing more of future world
seeing John Connor In film
Sarah Connor and Kyle Reece as teenagers

I think rebooting yet keeping Arnold Is bad idea.Reboots should divorce themselves from those Involved with original.If you think you can do it better and are saying earlier films never happened then you shouldn't have them.I
always said Judi Dench should not have continued to play M In james Bond films after reboot.In theory I understand why using Leonard Nimoy In abrams trek films.And IF DOFP erases most X-Men films then I can understand continuing to use Hugh jackman.Arnold Is like dench.Especilly If this keeps looking like remake of original.
 
This Is not terminator 5.It reboots timeline so all 4 film+Sarah Connor Chronicles
never happened.

It also looks like this Is basicly remake of original which will bring 1984 Vs 2015
versions arguements.

The big chances seem to be from originals seem to be
showing more of future world
seeing John Connor In film
Sarah Connor and Kyle Reece as teenagers

I think rebooting yet keeping Arnold Is bad idea.Reboots should divorce themselves from those Involved with original.If you think you can do it better and are saying earlier films never happened then you shouldn't have them.I
always said Judi Dench should not have continued to play M In james Bond films after reboot.In theory I understand why using Leonard Nimoy In abrams trek films.And IF DOFP erases most X-Men films then I can understand continuing to use Hugh jackman.Arnold Is like dench.Especilly If this keeps looking like remake of original.

I agree with pretty much all of this.
 
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The plot thickens.
 
I am very curious to know what they are doing.
 
All right, so they're starting it over via that possible subtitle, but is it going to be an alt. continuity or what, that is the question.
 
Well considering Sarah is dead in 3, and 4, I guess it would have to be alternate, if not outright reboot.
 
Ya I think that's more proof it's an outright reboot. Instead of Batman Begins being called "Batman or The Batman" was to kinda help people understand it's a new beginning. This has that same feel. Instead of just Terminator (which too many may confuse with the original) They gave it a Batman Begins type name.
 
I never realized how often Genesis and Exodus are used in titles for things.
 
Genesis? I have not heard that as much I guess.
 
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