Arrow Arrow Season 6 Episode 19: "The Dragon"

[NotNickFury]

Looking to expand his empire, Diaz (guest star Kirk Acevedo) and Laurel (Katie Cassidy) meet with The Quadrant, a coalition of mafia families who run national organized crime. Meanwhile, after Oliver’s (Stephen Amell) recent decision, Felicity (Emily Bett Rickards) and Curtis (Echo Kellum) double their efforts on building Helix Dynamics.

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[vantheman77]

Originally this episode was going to be called Enter The Dragon.

Not used to seeing Dinah Laurel with black hair.

 

[Primal Slayer]

This was the epitome of filler and not proper timing.

This wasn't a Diaz/Siren episode..it was a Diaz episode through and through. Siren was his body guard which idk what he would've done had she not come...he'd be screwed.

I totally enjoyed Black Siren in this episode though, she was the saving grace. She served sass, wtf-ness, and truth. I dont know what Ken was talking about Siren fans not liking this episode...unless he meant the actual episode itself.

We were 19 episodes to late, this is all the stuff that should've been building up to Diaz killing Cayden who should've been part of this Quadrant. I have no problem getting a villain centric episode but I expected to get a Team-Villain episode when it was like 5 of em.

All this did was make me pitty Diaz and not in the good way.

 

[NotNickFury]

Maybe it's because they're both DC properties, but when Diaz set that guy on fire, the first thing that came to mind was when Scarecrow set Bruce on fire in Batman Begins.

 

[Primal Slayer]

These writers really need to stop trying their "own" thing with well known comic characters because to take Dragon who was made into a really great villain they've just....whew...not done him any kind of justice. I think they enjoy doing it?

 

[ComicBookNerd]

I actually liked tonight’s episode. I find Diaz to be more interesting than any other character on the show this season. At the same time, it’s kind of a joke that this was Oliver’s 1st episode “going back to basics” and it was just a setup for an #Olicity moment.

 

[Sorath]

Let me just say most of the villains I have hated. When I say I mean I loved to hate them. This first Villain I actually loved. At first I didn't give a crap about him. I was unimpressed considering all the villains we have seen. This episode changed my opinion. I think he a great villain. I don't want to see him loose to Oliver at least not yet.

However this episode kind makes me understand why Oliver choose to go it alone. I think some part of Oliver understands Diaz and that the only way he can beat Diaz is by going back to basics.

I can't wait to see these two go at it. It's going to be bloody and messy. Its going to be a lot of fun. Btw this was best episode of the season by far.

 

[Sorath]

I actually liked tonight’s episode. I find Diaz to be more interesting than any other character on the show this season. At the same time, it’s kind of a joke that this was Oliver’s 1st episode “going back to basics” and it was just a setup for an #Olicity moment.

I see you're point but I think there was a reason why we didn't get to really see Oliver going back to basics. I think point of this episode was to show Diaz in way we have not seen before.

When we saw Diaz take over the city I was like whatever. I mean Oliver been up against Damien Darhk and beat him. What's this guy going to do. So he smart and figured out how to take control of the city big deal. Tonight episode showed not only is Diaz smart, calculated, patient. but he a skilled fighter. In fact he might be just as skilled as Oliver. These make him very, very deadly. More deadly then Darhk or the other villains we have seen.

Now that we know this It's clear Oliver on some level understands how dangerous he is. Which is why he has gone back to basics. He needs to be just as dangerous. For so long he had to many people voicing the opinions. Diaz is one those villains where to many voices are going to allow Diaz to win. I think Oliver understands that.

I think the next few episodes are going to be interesting.

 

[ComicBookNerd]

I see you're point but I think there was a reason why we didn't get to really see Oliver going back to basics. I think point of this episode was to show Diaz in way we have not seen before.

When we saw Diaz take over the city I was like whatever. I mean Oliver been up against Damien Darhk and beat him. What's this guy going to do. So he smart and figured out how to take control of the city big deal. Tonight episode showed not only is Diaz smart, calculated, patient. but he a skilled fighter. In fact he might be just as skilled as Oliver. These make him very, very deadly. More deadly then Darhk or the other villains we have seen.

Now that we know this It's clear Oliver on some level understands how dangerous he is. Which is why he has gone back to basics. He needs to be just as dangerous. For so long he had to many people voicing the opinions. Diaz is one those villains where to many voices are going to allow Diaz to win. I think Oliver understands that.

I think the next few episodes are going to be interesting.

I don’t mind a Diaz centric episode (I actually liked it a lot), but they should’ve done it next week while focusing this week on Oliver going solo.

 

[Gu3ree]

For a second, I thought Oliver wouldn't appear in this episode, and he'd there, but off camera.

 

[Flash525]

I don’t mind a Diaz centric episode (I actually liked it a lot), but they should’ve done it next week while focusing this week on Oliver going solo.

I think we needed a non-Ollie episode this week to be honest; we need a break between (what was left of) Team Arrow and Solo Arrow. A focus on Diaz was a nice draw from that, and we can refocus on Ollie next week.

 

[shabadoo25]

This was a fairly useful episode to explain Diaz and more Katie is never a bad thing. But I guess she wears a wig while in bodyguard mode? Were we not supposed to notice the hairstyle change?

I liked the Felicity/Curtis scenes, also.

 

[inkblaster]

Tuned it watch a show called Arrow, see 1 quick clip of the Green Arrow.

No idea what they're doing, hopefully next season goes back to formula, Oliver being the green arrow, stopping crime, etc. Don't care about the Diaz guy anymore, and the gratuitous violence in this episode was very over the top.

This is just becoming GTA television, need less guns, more arrows/comparable villains. Getting rid of Mad Dog and Spartan was a good start, but then focusing a whole episode on this Dragon was horrible. I miss Smallville.

 

[Primal Slayer]

This was a fairly useful episode to explain Diaz and more Katie is never a bad thing. But I guess she wears a wig while in bodyguard mode? Were we not supposed to notice the hairstyle change?o.

Siren was undercover since she's living as Laurel now.

 

[Dr.]

Whether this episode will make sense as part of the overall season arc remains to be seen. But as a standalone character study of Diaz, I quite liked it. An occasional changeup - away from the familiar formula - can be a good thing. (With the series at +130 episodes now, it can afford a little experimentation. )

Also - a nice showcase for both Acevedo and Cassidy.

 

[ZIPBAGS]

Diaz turned into John Wick in this episode...with all of the fighting and gunplay.

 

[Teelie]

Tuned it watch a show called Arrow, see 1 quick clip of the Green Arrow.

No idea what they're doing, hopefully next season goes back to formula, Oliver being the green arrow, stopping crime, etc. Don't care about the Diaz guy anymore, and the gratuitous violence in this episode was very over the top.

This is just becoming GTA television, need less guns, more arrows/comparable villains. Getting rid of Mad Dog and Spartan was a good start, but then focusing a whole episode on this Dragon was horrible. I miss Smallville.

Me too. I was bored with it, wondering why we're into season 6 of a series called Arrow, only to have an episode dedicated exclusively to an otherwise underwhelming and uninteresting villian who is a street thug with too much screen time.

All the other crap going on in this series and we spend the entire episode on a guy who will be gone in less than five episodes? Possibly sooner.

I rarely come into these forums but for something this terrible I had to say something. It felt like a poorly executed backdoor pilot to a bad spinoff focusing on Dragon who had no build up, no real importance or anything to make him stand out.

He is literally a street level drug dealer who worked his way up the chain only to be written off one way or another within a few weeks.

 

[Primal Slayer]

23 episodes a season....you can spare an epsiode that focuses on somebody else. It happens on a lot of tv shows (Buffy/Xena etc...)

 

[ComicBookNerd]

They had to have a Diaz centric episode because they have done a terrible job of building him up as a credible big bad up until this point.

Sort of off topic, but are they still planning on doing a #BlackLivesMatter episode? Based on how they did the gun debate episode last year combined with the horrible writing this year, and the fact there are no black writers on staff, that seems like it would be a horrible idea; worse than Kendall Jenner in the Pepsi commercial in fact.

I’m sorry to say, but I really cringe every time I watch Arrow these days. It’s the only superhero show where I’m embarrassed to tell people that I’m a weekly viewer.

 

[Teelie]

23 episodes a season....you can spare an epsiode that focuses on somebody else. It happens on a lot of tv shows (Buffy/Xena etc...)

Yes, except when they did take the focus off the main character, it was always another regular character in the series or at least someone more prominent than a guy who has got less than 5 episodes left before he's written off, presumably never to be seen again.

And it might have been better placed near the beginning, before he suddenly went from low level street dealer to top of the hill crime lord in the span of a few episodes.

 

[ComicBookNerd]

Yes, except when they did take the focus off the main character, it was always another regular character in the series or at least someone more prominent than a guy who has got less than 5 episodes left before he's written off, presumably never to be seen again.

And it might have been better placed near the beginning, before he suddenly went from low level street dealer to top of the hill crime lord in the span of a few episodes.

I agree, it’s like making Count Vertigo or Tobias Church into the big bads.

 

[Babillygunn]

I actually felt like they didn’t do any favors for Diaz. He went from a force to be reckoned with to basically a whiny, scared kid trying to act like a tough guy. He is an even poorer version of Kylo Ren.

I had no problem with the “Olicity moment” because frankly it makes sense for Oliver’s wife to worry about him. I hated the Curtis moment though. Specifically I hated when he was happy that Diggle left the team. The whole “Oliver was mean to all of us” b.s. is so contrived. But I guess if it gets Renee and Curtis out of the show, it’s for the better. I just hope Curtis and Renee don’t make it out of this season alive.

 

[shabadoo25]

Siren was undercover since she's living as Laurel now.

Yeah, because a woman as beautiful as KC is totally unrecognizable because wig.

That's as ridiculous as not recognizing someone because glasses...oops.