Am talking about Batman and Robin. The first time ever you saw it, at what point in the movie did you think to yourself this is realy realy wrong and will definately bomb. I remember seeing the movie for the first time, and the first thing that struck me was the whole rubber bum shots at the beginning, at that point though i didnt realy think much, then the movie went on with the first action scene , the fights in the sky, the museum with Mr Freeze which all looked good. Then the moment where i knew the movie was gonna suck was the whole Bane experiment scene , something about the whole scene seemed campy and finally when poison Ivy was pushed into the pit, it seemed all campy aswell and reminded me about the 60's series, from there on the movie just sucked.