Atheism: Love it or Leave it? - Part 2

[Sloth7d]

The stories seem to be based on some events is all I'm saying. Like how many Christians claimed New York got hit by a hurricane because of gay marriage. That sort of crazy propaganda, back during those times, could probably be twisted and exaggerated into what we know as the story of Sodom and Gomorrah.

 

[Franklin Richards]

Nobody mentioned that Texas is in the middle of a drought. Or the fact that the entire state was on fire for a month.


That's just weather.

 

[SuperFerret]

It's because of that 4 year old mentally handicapped girl they executed.

 

[8wid]

Soddom and Gomarrah were destroyed because God didn't want humans having sex with his angels. And yet Nephilum were allowed to spread evil spirits about the globe and they existed for thousands of years before the Great Flood took out their offspring.

When ever a natural disaster destroys your city just blame the mayor for having sex with an angle sometime.

 

[Lighthouse]

Soddom and Gomarrah were destroyed because God didn't want humans having sex with his angels. And yet Nephilum were allowed to spread evil spirits about the globe and they existed for thousands of years before the Great Flood took out their offspring.

When ever a natural disaster destroys your city just blame the mayor for having sex with an angle sometime.

Especially when those angles are obtuse.

















YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!

 

[SuperFerret]

Like when Bill Clinton had "sex" with that obtuse angle that one time.


Goddammit Lighthouse!

 

[Lighthouse]

Like when Bill Clinton had "sex" with that obtuse angle that one time.


Goddammit Lighthouse!

 

[8wid]

^

I'll look past that because my ancestors were Nephilim and giants among men.

 

[Lighthouse]

^

I'll look past that because my ancestors were Nephilim and giants among men.

Are those angels fist bumping?

 

[Alex Summers]

I have a question for the theists who worship the Abrahamic deity: Can you provide modern proof that YHWH exists?

 

[Marvin]

Religion greatest and only weapon is it's threat of hell. I truly wonder how much of the worlds population would be religious(the big 3 of course) if the concept of eternal damnation was never brought into the equation.

 

[Sloth7d]

A lot, because religion's greatest weapon is not the fear of hell. It is the fear of dying and a need for purpose. Hell wasn't even something that was apart of Judaism until Catholics started mistranslating and misusing old terms. Literature such as The Divine Comedy and Paradise Lost only further created this misconception of hell to the masses. Not that it mattered. Hell is merely the final scare tactic to keep those who aren't enticed by thoughts of paradise to do good by their religion's code of conduct. Yeah, it helps keep people from questioning their beliefs, but it isn't the source of a desire for religion. That source comes from a dissatisfication of reality.

 

[chaseter]

I have a question for the theists who worship the Abrahamic deity: Can you provide modern proof that YHWH exists?

I wish we all knew as much as you know.

 

[Marvin]

A lot, because religion's greatest weapon is not the fear of hell. It is the fear of dying and a need for purpose. Hell wasn't even something that was apart of Judaism until Catholics started mistranslating and misusing old terms. Literature such as The Divine Comedy and Paradise Lost only further created this misconception of hell to the masses. Not that it mattered. Hell is merely the final scare tactic to keep those who aren't enticed by thoughts of paradise to do good by their religion's code of conduct. Yeah, it helps keep people from questioning their beliefs, but it isn't the source of a desire for religion. That source comes from a dissatisfication of reality.

The movement shot way the hell up after Constantine, and by then hell was in full swing by my estimation. And then of course Islam and it's idea of one facing judgement beyond the earthly matter.

I personally would probably have a whole lot more respect for faith if it didn't resort to that claim, or even the claims of paradise. But a lot of us are human after all, ignoring that fear is a big motivator for a lot of what we do, gaining something is another. That really is the only reason I gave santa any time at all.

The search for truth and purpose has plagued us for quite some time now. Both scientists and faith seekers alike. You're right.

 

[Sloth7d]

Yeah, I understand. Indoctrinating kids with the idea of eternal torture for unrepentant disobedience is pretty cruel. In extreme cases it creates paranoid, OCD fanatics like I was, ever praying over thought crimes such as a lust of the heart or using the lord's name in vain. Crazy times, my youth.

 

[KingMob]

I wish we all knew as much as you know.

He asked a question.

 

[chaseter]

He asked a question in which he knew there was no answer to. It's like me asking you to prove that a god does not exist. No one can...therefore the question is dumb. He was trying to be awesomez by asking a question in which no empirical data exists and will probably never exist. If only we all were so knowledgeable as to know as much as he knows...what exists, can exist, and what does not exist. It's great when man thinks that what we know right now is the definitive truth.

 

[Sloth7d]

William Lane Craig and every philosopher pushing the ontological argument disagrees with you. I think those are the people he was trying to draw out; those that think God can be proven through pure reason as if it was a math problem.

 

[Lighthouse]

I think Victor Stenger made a pretty damn good case in terms of the Judeo-Christian God.

Absence of Evidence Is Evidence of Absence

 

[DBryan]

I like reading the comments. I like how an atheist comment is followed up by a believer's reply using scripture.

That's the thing that's gonna change the mind of an atheist - a quote from scripture!

Guys like that don't seem to get why atheists (generally) don't believe. Scripture is worthless generally to atheists.

 

[Marvin]

The one most glaring observation I have about theology is how glaringly man made it is(none more so then the latter too Abrahamics). But inversely, that really raises the point of faith. So I find the discussion tends to be mostly engaging.

As a scholar of myth, I find it really interesting what circumstances it takes for a piece of literature(oral or otherwise) to make the jump into divinity.

 

[chaseter]

It is true...man has destroyed religion like he destroys everything else.

 

[Dr.]

As a scholar of myth, I find it really interesting what circumstances it takes for a piece of literature(oral or otherwise) to make the jump into divinity.

I don’t think religion starts out as myth or literature and then transforms. It typically starts out (oddly enough) as “science” – an attempt to explain the natural world and the mystery of death. Subsequently, the mythological narratives are grafted onto the “science.”

 

[8wid]

Does anyone else notice that the crucifixion of Jesus has a lot of overtones with the story of Romulus and Remus and the Roman Emperor?

 

[WildcatNC]

The one most glaring observation I have about theology is how glaringly man made it is(none more so then the latter too Abrahamics). But inversely, that really raises the point of faith. So I find the discussion tends to be mostly engaging.

As a scholar of myth, I find it really interesting what circumstances it takes for a piece of literature(oral or otherwise) to make the jump into divinity.

I'm a Mythology buff as well. It is pretty interesting. Reading Joseph Campbell now actually.