Sci-Fi Avatar: The Way Of Water

[GothamAlleys]

I just wish there was bit more actual movement on this. Certainly no one can accuse him of a rush job.

Yeah, news about "plans" are surfacing every two months or so, but if Im not mistaken, nothing is being shot yet although he did say theyre doing some motion performance capture

 

[lime]

By the time this sequel comes out, people will forget what Avatar is, and Sony would have rebooted Spider-man twice.

 

[FrozenBanana00]

Ha!

 

[Marvolo]

Cameron is going to shoot all four Avatar movies...At Once.

It’s not back-to-back. It’s really all one big production. It’s more the way you would shoot a miniseries. So we’ll be shooting across all (AVATAR scripts) simultaneously. So Monday I might be doing a scene from Movie Four, and Tuesday I’m doing a scene from Movie One. … We’re working across, essentially, eight hours of story. It’s going to be a big challenge to keep it all fixed in our minds, exactly where we are, across that story arc at any given point. It’s going to be probably the most challenging thing I’ve ever done. I’m sure the actors will be challenged by that as well. It’s like, ‘No, no, no, no, this person hasn’t died yet, so you’re still in this phase of your life.’ It’s a saga. It’s like doing all three GODFATHER films at the same time.

http://www.joblo.com/movie-news/jam...e-going-to-shoot-all-those-avatar-sequels-174

Peter Jackson is chilling in his Bag End guest house saying, "Ok Jim you've lost your damn mind."

If Cameron doesnt die from stress and exhaustion before production is complete Ill be very surprised.

 

[Legendver2]

Wow, this sounds like a disaster waiting to happen

 

[Doctor Jones]

That's what people thought would happen to his last two movies...

The thing about Cameron is that he tackles what most people deem insanity and he's a rule breaker.

 

[Rocketman]

Like I said, everything is riding on Avatar 2. When that trailer hits, we'll know the fate of 3, 4, and 5. If 2 fails, this will have all been for nothing.

I really don't think doing four at one time is a good idea. It doesn't matter who the director is or their track record... It's a bad idea for anybody.

 

[TheVileOne]

I think it's insane to wait that long between movies. But I think ultimately, people are going to turn out to these regardless. Because it's Avatar and because it's James Cameron.

 

[Shifty]

Like I said, everything is riding on Avatar 2. When that trailer hits, we'll know the fate of 3, 4, and 5. If 2 fails, this will have all been for nothing.

I really don't think doing four at one time is a good idea. It doesn't matter who the director is or their track record... It's a bad idea for anybody.

They would do reshoots to try and save the final 3 films but it could be like The Matrix sequels all over again.

 

[OutOfBoose]

Funny people teach James Cameron (!!!) how to make movies.

 

[Rocketman]

Even Spielberg has screwed up. Doesn't matter who it is. *shrug*

 

[Marvolo]

Like I said, everything is riding on Avatar 2. When that trailer hits, we'll know the fate of 3, 4, and 5. If 2 fails, this will have all been for nothing.

I really don't think doing four at one time is a good idea. It doesn't matter who the director is or their track record... It's a bad idea for anybody.

They'd probably do one of three things if Avatar 2 bombs at the box office:

1. Do what New Line planned to do if FOTR bombed at the box office. TTT and ROTK's principle photography was finished before FOTR came out in theaters. Jackson has said that if FOTR had failed New Line's plan was to finish TTT and ROTK's post production with a significantly reduced budget in a reduced time period then release the two films straight to DVD.

2. They could reduce the post production budgets of Avatar 3, 4, & 5 and release them into theaters in the hope one of them is a hit.

3. They pour more money into Avatar 3, 4, & 5 (Maybe more of Cameron's own money) and try to make 3,4,& 5 better than Avatar 2.

 

[Nemeres]

Like I said, everything is riding on Avatar 2. When that trailer hits, we'll know the fate of 3, 4, and 5. If 2 fails, this will have all been for nothing.

I really don't think doing four at one time is a good idea. It doesn't matter who the director is or their track record... It's a bad idea for anybody.

Certainly wasn't the case with film one, the reception to that trailer reflected nada of how well the movie would later do. If any film justifies an ambitious sequel plan it might as well be the highest-grossing of all time, which this was.

 

[The Shape]

That's what people thought would happen to his last two movies...

The thing about Cameron is that he tackles what most people deem insanity and he's a rule breaker.

This. Remember how much of a "disaster" Titanic was supposed to be?

 

[NotSoLongAgo]

I think it's insane to wait that long between movies. But I think ultimately, people are going to turn out to these regardless. Because it's Avatar and because it's James Cameron.

I dunno man, times are different. I don't think Cameron can replicate the success.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

The big thing here, is this won't be new. Avatar will be new, this is a sequel. Have to see how that effects it. That is of course if these movies ever get made.

 

[Bruce Malone]

The first Avatar film back won't bomb. Avatar was even more of a phenomena in China and the rest of Asia than in North America arguably.

That audience is built in money.

Avatar was a film that made $2 billion without accounting for any of its domestic receipts. That's TFA money without North America.

 

[Jay Beezy]

The big thing here, is this won't be new. Avatar will be new, this is a sequel. Have to see how that effects it. That is of course if these movies ever get made.

Yeah, that's what it ultimately comes down to. Avatar still has arguably the best effects work of any contemporary sci-fi/fantasy blockbuster, but will the effects be any different or revolutionary for the next go around? If not, I don't buy people going back like they did last time since A) the time gap between sequels feel too long, and B) the first movie was just a giant visual mask to a story that was just another FernGully. Can James Cameron really be trusted to come up with a story that's complex?

 

[Sithborg]

Rule #1: Don't bet against James Cameron.

 

[redhawk23]

Yeah, that's what it ultimately comes down to. Avatar still has arguably the best effects work of any contemporary sci-fi/fantasy blockbuster, but will the effects be any different or revolutionary for the next go around? If not, I don't buy people going back like they did last time since A) the time gap between sequels feel too long, and B) the first movie was just a giant visual mask to a story that was just another FernGully. Can James Cameron really be trusted to come up with a story that's complex?

People repeat this as if the story was the film's weakness. It wasn't. The story is an often repeated one but it is a coherent backbone to the whole thing. Unlike something like an Orci/Kurtzman or Lindelof film where characters do things for no reason or events happen out of nowhere or the plot is mindlessly convoluted but empty, the film had a straightforward plot with clear motivations for its characters. The movie was never intended to be deep in its plot but instead was $2.7 billion worth of broad. Avatar's working title was 'Project 880' as in for "Everyone 8 to 80."

Going more complex might actually be the next film's downfall.

 

[Kane52630]

Rule #1: Don't bet against James Cameron.

yeep

 

[Greens]

Yeah, that's what it ultimately comes down to. Avatar still has arguably the best effects work of any contemporary sci-fi/fantasy blockbuster

I think the new Planet of the Apes movies deserve that prize.

 

[redhawk23]

Dawns effects are very solid and I think win out because the CG characters are nearly perfectly composited into largely practical effects and interact with human actors much more. The second film in particular made a lot of headway towards moving mocap into the outside world and on-location sets.

Rise of the Planet of the Apes suffered a bit from its accelerated production. Both that movie and X-Men:First Class were cranked out under the wire by Fox that year and their effects work are very spotty because of it.

All that said, I don't think WETA could have done what they do without having done Avatar first.

 

[Double B]

I know one should never bet against James Cameron but I do think there should be some hesitation before taking on the mammoth task of four back to back sequels being filmed. It's so rare these days for movies to exceed a trilogy, without at least a sizeable gap (a la Star Wars). What if the sequel turn-out is great then there's a case of dramatically diminishing returns for three more, very expensive movies?

 

[TheVileOne]

I dunno man, times are different. I don't think Cameron can replicate the success.

I mean betting against Cameron is usually a losing strategy. A lot of people thought Titanic would bomb.