The Avengers Avengers Assembled: News and Speculation - Part 67

[TheAQU4M4N]

Good for him, but that is an absurd number.

Considering RDJ is the Johnny Depp of the Marvel Movie world I think thats perfect for him.

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

Well, this movie's making absurd numbers, so it doesn't bother me that RDJ would make an absurd amount of money from it. I mean, that money either goes to the talent or the suits no matter what, so it's always nice to see the talent getting a good chunk. The problem with balking at the money movie stars make, imo, is that if any one of us made the kind of money for our bosses that these people do, we'd deserve that amount too, regardless of how "hard" the work is. The JOB of the movie star is to have an undefinable quality that convinces people to pay 10-20 bucks to watch them play make believe. Charisma like RDJ has a true, true rarity. Like it or not, the RDJ-appeal is a major contributor to this movie making its bosses over a billion dollars. People love Tony Stark. HIS Tony Stark. They probably wouldn't feel the same way toward this franchise someone else had been chosen for Iron Man, which, let's face it, is pretty much the reason this whole MCU thing worked out. $50m is less than 5% of what this movie has made so far, and I think that seems fair considering he probably accounts for more than 5% of the motivation for audiences to see this movie. I mean, he probably deserves at least 12% of the credit.

You can make an argument that he deserves 15% of the credit.

 

[warcam]

I see what you two did there

 

[Raiden]

Well, this movie's making absurd numbers, so it doesn't bother me that RDJ would make an absurd amount of money from it. I mean, that money either goes to the talent or the suits no matter what, so it's always nice to see the talent getting a good chunk. The problem with balking at the money movie stars make, imo, is that if any one of us made the kind of money for our bosses that these people do, we'd deserve that amount too, regardless of how "hard" the work is. The JOB of the movie star is to have an undefinable quality that convinces people to pay 10-20 bucks to watch them play make believe. Charisma like RDJ has a true, true rarity. Like it or not, the RDJ-appeal is a major contributor to this movie making its bosses over a billion dollars. People love Tony Stark. HIS Tony Stark. They probably wouldn't feel the same way toward this franchise someone else had been chosen for Iron Man, which, let's face it, is pretty much the reason this whole MCU thing worked out. $50m is less than 5% of what this movie has made so far, and I think that seems fair considering he probably accounts for more than 5% of the motivation for audiences to see this movie. I mean, he probably deserves at least 12% of the credit.

I have no problem that RDJ makes the most money, but if he is getting 50 mil, then I wish Whedon would at least get 1/5 of that money because without him, even RDJ's star power won't have made The Avengers the kind of phenomenon that it is now. TA would've made alot of money regardless, but it is because it's actually good and worth the hype that it can smash the first-week box office record and fell by only 50% in the second week. All these credits must go to Joss Whedon for not just writing the script but also directed the movie.

 

[Spider-Vader]

I don't think I like the idea of a racoon as a hero in GOTG. MCU has been established as one that is based more in realism and not hokey or campy, and Rocket Racoon would've ruined all that with a CGI talking cutey animal from outer space. They might as recruit Squirrel Girl for TA2 if they want to go that route.

Cutesy & Rocket Raccoon don't go in the same sentence. He'd slit your throat for saying that about him, ya wanka!

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He's not supposed to be taken 100% seriously. He's the character that will make the audience laugh & then surprise them when he actually does awesome stuff.

 

[Raiden]

Cutesy & Rocket Raccoon don't go in the same sentence. He'd slit your throat for saying that about him, ya wanka!

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He's not supposed to be taken 100% seriously. He's the character that will make the audience laugh & then surprise them when he actually does awesome stuff.

Sorry, a CGI talking raccoon still will not be taken seriously, even if he can indeed slit bad guys' throat.

 

[Rock Sexton]

Joss on directing the sequel:

“You know, I’m very torn,” Whedon said in a sit-down interview in Beverly Hills before the film’s U.S. opening. “It’s an enormous amount of work telling what is ultimately somebody else’s story, even though I feel like I did get to put myself into it. But at the same time, I have a bunch of ideas, and they all seem really cool.”

http://herocomplex.latimes.com/2012...hedon-talks-sequel-buffy-and-x-men-parallels/

 

[flickchick85]

I have no problem that RDJ makes the most money, but if he is getting 50 mil, then I wish Whedon would at least get 1/5 of that money because without him, even RDJ's star power won't have made The Avengers the kind of phenomenon that it is now. TA would've made alot of money regardless, but it is because it's actually good and worth the hype that it can smash the first-week box office record and fell by only 50% in the second week. All these credits must go to Joss Whedon for not just writing the script but also directed the movie.

Oh no I agree that Joss deserves a lot too. Like you said, he deserves at least $10m. But that should come from the other profits, not RDJ's cut. Like I said, RDJ is getting 5% of the pot. That seems fair to me, considering the movie would have shattered OW records without Joss Whedon's name attached, but if RDJ had dropped out, not so much. And he's a big part of what makes the movie so entertaining and re-watchable as well. So 5% for him sounds fair. It's the other salaries (like Whedon's) that are probably low. Because I agree, Whedon should get at least 1/5 of what RDJ's getting, if not more. Surely they could at least manage to give him 2-3%.

 

[Raiden]

Oh no I agree that Joss deserves a lot too. Like you said, he deserves at least $10m. But that should come from the other profits, not RDJ's cut. Like I said, RDJ is getting 5% of the pot. That seems fair to me, considering the movie would have shattered OW records without Joss Whedon's name attached, but if RDJ had dropped out, not so much. And he's a big part of what makes the movie so entertaining and re-watchable as well. So 5% for him sounds fair. It's the other salaries (like Whedon's) that are probably low. Because I agree, Whedon should get at least 1/5 of what RDJ's getting, if not more. Surely they could at least manage to give him 2-3%.

I fear that in an ensemble movie like TA, if you have one actor who makes so much more than everyone else, it might complicate matters in the sequel. I hope it won't come to that in TA2.

 

[Avenger]

Joss on directing the sequel:

Thanks for the link. I think he'd be willing to come back as long as they don't try to rush things.

 

[RockSP]

And if the $$$ is right.

 

[terry78]

Disney will try with all their power to get him back, but as we all know if you won't play ball, the Mouse House will replace you just as fast.

 

[flickchick85]

I fear that in an ensemble movie like TA, if you have one actor who makes so much more than everyone else, it might complicate matters in the sequel. I hope it won't come to that in TA2.

Agreed. But based on what we've seen of them, everyone in the main ensemble seems pretty comfortable and accepting that RDJ is the "big star" of the group. I can't imagine Evans/Hemsworth/Ruffalo trying to compete for his level of compensation. They're all sure to get big raises for the sequel anyway.

 

[Chewy]

They should all make 50M for the sequel.

 

[TheVileOne]

It might be absurd, but they made the deal with RDJ. I don't think it's really absurd at all considering Downey helped build this franchise and he's the biggest star in all the movies.

Now with the popularity of this movie, I'm sure the other actors can get some better percentages, back end deals as things go along.

Is it really absurd at all though considering Downey was probably paid a lot less for the first movie? That's kind of why you do these movies and sign up for a lot. Your pay might start low but if they get successful and they make more, your pay will increase big time.

 

[Raiden]

Disney will try with all their power to get him back, but as we all know if you won't play ball, the Mouse House will replace you just as fast.

It's not just Disney; Marvel already proved that they would rather replace you than paying you an outrageous salary (see: Terrence Howard).

Agreed. But based on what we've seen of them, everyone in the main ensemble seems pretty comfortable and accepting that RDJ is the "big star" of the group. I can't imagine Evans/Hemsworth/Ruffalo trying to compete for his level of compensation. They're all sure to get big raises for the sequel anyway.

Yeah, I hope you're right. The last thing we need is actors all trying to compete for more money. I think all of them will get raises, but it has to be reasonable otherwise they'd be looking at a 300 mil budget and it just won't be feasible, unless the sequel can keep breaking the prevous movie's records. Even then, some fiscal restraint would be better than a runaway train like SR and GL.

 

[Quasimod0]

Seriously though, they are all making millions. I dont feel sorry for a single one of them.

 

[TheVileOne]

Also honestly who the **** cares what they make? I'm sure everyone is making good money which is nice in this economy these days.

People these days are too concerned how much other people are making because they want what they have.

 

[Crimson King]

Acting is like any other job when it comes to compensation competitiveness. You can't deny it. If someone at your work has the same job as you, and they get a bonus that's ten times what you got for the same project, you'd be pissed. Maybe they do deserve more because they were the first to work on the project, but ten times?

I wonder if this will create the tension between cast members that Whedon assumed he'd be able to use during the filming of this movie.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Acting is like any other job when it comes to compensation competitiveness. You can't deny it. If someone at your work has the same job as you, and they get a bonus that's ten times what you got for the same project, you'd be pissed. Maybe they do deserve more because they were the first to work on the project, but ten times?

I wonder if this will create the tension between cast members that Whedon assumed he'd be able to use during the filming of this movie.

Except with acting , experience, demand, talent and popularity all come into play....

 

[TheVileOne]

Acting is like any other job when it comes to compensation competitiveness. You can't deny it. If someone at your work has the same job as you, and they get a bonus that's ten times what you got for the same project, you'd be pissed. Maybe they do deserve more because they were the first to work on the project, but ten times?

I wonder if this will create the tension between cast members that Whedon assumed he'd be able to use during the filming of this movie.

Considering that person made it all possible for them to be there and is the one putting the majority of asses in the seats . . . no they have no right to be pissed. I know it's human nature to be bitter and want more and all that, but I just say no.

All these actors no matter what the whiny fandom says, they all signed their deals and agreed to work for them. They all have good representation to look out for them so I mean if they don't like IMHO they only have themselves to blame.

 

[Smashlilman]

Sorry, a CGI talking raccoon still will not be taken seriously, even if he can indeed slit bad guys' throat.

Well to bad. He's apart of the group. Taking Rocket raccoon out of GOTG would be like taking Scooby Doo out of the Gang. Don't change him just leaving him the same. We're inviting the audience into to Marvel's fantasy universe. Put him out there let the audience laugh at the character and allow the movie to poke fun at its own absurdity. Then when the audience least expects it have him do something extreme awesome. The goal isn't to make the fantasy world as real as possible. The goal is to get people to suspend there disbelieve and embrace the fantasy. I mean come on Men in Black had a talking Dog alien that later became an Agent in Men In Black 2.

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[Crimson King]

Well to bad. He's apart of the group. Taking Rocket raccoon out of GOTG would be like taking Scooby Doo out of the Gang. Don't change him just leaving him the same. We're inviting the audience into to Marvel's fantasy universe. Put him out there let the audience laugh at the character and allow the movie to poke fun at its own absurdity. Then when the audience least expects it have him do something extreme awesome. The goal isn't to make the fantasy world as real as possible. The goal is to get people to suspend there disbelieve and embrace the fantasy. I mean come on Men in Black had a talking Dog alien that later became an Agent in Men In Black 2.

Just because he's a part of the group in the comics doesn't guarantee he'll be in the movie. People's suspension of disbelief isn't infinite. And yes, MIB had the talking dog, but MIB was a comedy. GotG doesn't strike me as that.

 

[pyromaniac]

Disney will try with all their power to get him back, but as we all know if you won't play ball, the Mouse House will replace you just as fast.

I think Whedon is in a unique situation is that literally universally, every fan (old and converted) wants him back for the sequel and so I think the higher ups would be wise to lead on from that; they'd be foolish to do otherwise.

Even if they replace him with an equally capable director, it would represent square one in some ways in that we wouldn't be sure how well he would fare in the handling of the sequel. Whereas with Whedon, we can sit comfortably and know that the sequel is in good hands. You know? I'm not going to cry a river, but since I now care about these characters and I know Whedon does as well, it just would be a better and less risky choice than if they went with someone else, which as far as we know, could be anyone. Also it makes better sense in terms of business to secure him rather than scout a new director.

But let's not worry just yet.

 

[thalidomide]

^^^^^^ I confirm this statement.