The Avengers Avengers Score : Singular, Or Multiple Composer?

[TheVileOne]

Why would Silvestri be barred from re-using his own TFA theme in The Avengers? What the question should be is whether he'll reference Doyle's Thor theme or any of the thematic material Debney or Djawadi wrote for IM. (Silvestri isn't averse to referencing or incorporating other music into his scores either.)

I don't know mclay18. I'm not sure what Whedon is looking for and what he will want Silvestri to do with it. Or if Silvestri would even want to re-use some of his Captain America themes as well which I think would be smart.

I think he should try and reference the other themes and sort of bring it all together. The problem is the other movies didn't really have big powerful themes to begin with unlike Cap.

 

[Gunga Diner]

I don't know mclay18. I'm not sure what Whedon is looking for and what he will want Silvestri to do with it. Or if Silvestri would even want to re-use some of his Captain America themes as well which I think would be smart.

I think he should try and reference the other themes and sort of bring it all together. The problem is the other movies didn't really have big powerful themes to begin with unlike Cap.

Silvestri would be a moron not to continue to build on his Captain America theme, but he's in a tricky position there, because you can't treat this like a Captain America sequel. Will he incorporate the themes written by the previous composers? I used to rule it out, but I also ruled out Silvestri scoring the film.

I can't wait to hear what he comes up with for the Skrulls.

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

That's one of the reasons why I don't want Silvestri or any other previous MCU film composer on this movie. I don't think that Cap's theme should be worked into the score because the movie isn't about just him. I also don't want any of the other characters' themes to be in the score, it needs to be something unique, new, and separate from the solo MCU films. Something for The Avengers as a team. This movie is bigger than any of them and their solo adventures, so the score should reflect that without giving any heroes the spotlight. Needs to be its own thing.

 

[Adamantium Man]

That's one of the reasons why I don't want Silvestri or any other previous MCU film composer on this movie. I don't think that Cap's theme should be worked into the score because the movie isn't about just him. I also don't want any of the other characters' themes to be in the score, it needs to be something unique, new, and separate from the solo MCU films. Something for The Avengers as a team. This movie is bigger than any of them and their solo adventures, so the score should reflect that without giving any heroes the spotlight. Needs to be its own thing.

No reason why you can't have a unique score and the individual heroes' themes. What's wrong with having an epic battle with scored with team theme (or a conflict/fight theme), and then a few bars of the Cap theme as Cap is highlighted during a fight, maybe coming in to save the day? Or Thor? I get goosebumps just imagining it.

 

[cherokeesam]

Silvestri would be a moron not to continue to build on his Captain America theme, but he's in a tricky position there, because you can't treat this like a Captain America sequel. Will he incorporate the themes written by the previous composers? I used to rule it out, but I also ruled out Silvestri scoring the film.

I can't wait to hear what he comes up with for the Skrulls.

What Skrulls....?

 

[ddddeeee]

Thor and Cap are the only ones with themes likely to stay on anyway. Debney's IM theme was played a whopping one time in IM2 and I really doubt they'll be pushing any of Armstrong's IH score.

 

[Xeno]

I don't know mclay18. I'm not sure what Whedon is looking for and what he will want Silvestri to do with it. Or if Silvestri would even want to re-use some of his Captain America themes as well which I think would be smart.

I think he should try and reference the other themes and sort of bring it all together. The problem is the other movies didn't really have big powerful themes to begin with unlike Cap.

The lack of powerful themes for each superhero was the glaring weakness of four of the five Marvel movie scores. With the exception of CA:TFA, the composers neglected to give the heroes sweeping thematic music that the viewer could easily identify with them. It would be great if Silvestri gave each character a distinctive theme that is as impressive as the one he wrote for Cap.

 

[Bim]

No reason why you can't have a unique score and the individual heroes' themes. What's wrong with having an epic battle with scored with team theme (or a conflict/fight theme), and then a few bars of the Cap theme as Cap is highlighted during a fight, maybe coming in to save the day? Or Thor? I get goosebumps just imagining it.

Yeah, i like the sound of this

 

[Gunga Diner]

What Skrulls....?

Isn't it more or less understood that the Skrulls will be in the movie? I might be wrong, but I got the impression that they were Loki's army.

 

[Spider-Vader]

Silvestri's score for Cap was appropriately Golden Age and all, and works well in a gee-whiz WWII setting. But Avengers needs to steer clear of that --- I hope Silvestri brings a more modern vibe to this score.

He's a talented man, his theme for Predator sounds nothing like his theme for BTTF or Cap. It fits the movie perfectly.

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Though, I'd assume he'd use the theme he composed for Cap during scenes with Steve in them. Which I'm happy with, since that's my favorite character film theme in a looong time.

 

[Punisher_MAX]

Cap is my favorite MCU theme but Thor is definitely second. After watching Iron Man last night it was kinda said that there isnt a set theme for him.

 

[flickchick85]

And Whedon does tend to let his composers go wild. The composers that worked with him on Buffy did some incredible and 'big' music -- but the more dramatic and emotional scenes were extremely well-scored. Even Serenity went big with the music in spots.

This is very true. Here is a clip of music from a Whedon-directed episode of Buffy, a low-budget TV show on a tiny network - and keep in mind, this was before the trend of "cinematic" full-orchestra TV scores like Lost or BSG (it doesn't really get going 'til about a minute in):



I have no doubt he'll let Silvestri fly with some "big" musical moments.

 

[Sawyer]

Hell, the music was practically the star of "Hush".

 

[cherokeesam]

Isn't it more or less understood that the Skrulls will be in the movie? I might be wrong, but I got the impression that they were Loki's army.

Skrulls have been vehemently denied time and again by "those in the know" on all the websites and blogs and forums, including this one. (Whether or not those "in the know" actually know their butts from a hole in the ground remains to be seen.)

 

[Godzilla2000]

Here's an awesome Monster Hunter song to use for inspiration for...something I guess.

Lao Shan Lung Theme


Shen Gaoren Theme

 

[DyeLorean]

If Alan Silvestri gets the job, I hope they pay him enough so he can create some of the best piece of music for this type of film. The movie deserves to have an excellent soundtrack just like other classic adventure films.

 

[Dark Raven]

If Alan Silvestri gets the job, I hope they pay him enough so he can create some of the best piece of music for this type of film. The movie deserves to have an excellent soundtrack just like other classic adventure films.

The Avengers theme shouldn't just be good or catchy. This movie needs practically a Magnificent Seven-type instantly recognisable and iconic theme tune that will be remembered long after this movie has faded into history.

People know the Superman theme immediately even if they've never watched that old film. Even when it's used in other contexts, eg Seinfeld or other shows, everyone knows what it is, and what it signifies. I don't think any of the Marvel movies, even something like the Spider-Man trilogy, has that level of recognisability.

The Avengers should be so recognisable that it could be a ringtone on a cell phone and everyone would know what it is from just its first few bars.

 

[Punisher_MAX]

The Avengers theme shouldn't just be good or catchy. This movie needs practically a Magnificent Seven-type instantly recognisable and iconic theme tune that will be remembered long after this movie has faded into history.

People know the Superman theme immediately even if they've never watched that old film. Even when it's used in other contexts, eg Seinfeld or other shows, everyone knows what it is, and what it signifies. I don't think any of the Marvel movies, even something like the Spider-Man trilogy, has that level of recognisability.

The Avengers should be so recognisable that it could be a ringtone on a cell phone and everyone would know what it is from just its first few bars.

Cap's theme is pretty iconic and memorable. if anything of all the MCU movies its the one that sticks out and is up there with other famous themes.

 

[Mjölnir]

The only movie that had music I could hum to a day after I saw it was Thor. That doesn't mean that the others necessarily were worse on that point but not as memorable for me.

 

[Dark Raven]

Cap's theme is pretty iconic and memorable. if anything of all the MCU movies its the one that sticks out and is up there with other famous themes.

I'd say it's about as memorable as Supergirl (which was pretty good and by Jerry Goldsmith who was one of my favourite composers),

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or even Star Trek Generations:

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However it's nowhere near as iconic and instantly recognisable as something like Superman, Indiana Jones, Star Wars, Star Trek the Motion Picture, or Back To the Future. Those are on another level. That's the level that the Avengers theme composer needs to strive for.

 

[Dark Raven]

If Silvestri is scoring and incorporates other people's scores, I hope that he uses Joe Harnell's Lonely Man theme from the Incredible Hulk. However, I also hope he uses the "Growing Anger" theme from the series which was just as iconic and memorable, and probably the best representation of the suspenseful build up to the transformation.

If people don't know it off hand, you will when you hear it:

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[ddddeeee]

The only movie that had music I could hum to a day after I saw it was Thor. That doesn't mean that the others necessarily were worse on that point but not as memorable for me.

That's probably because Thor's theme actually went somewhere. Cap's was heroic and, um heroic. Thor's could be weighty for the drama, romantic, heroic, sad... Thor's theme followed the character for every beat of the movie. Then the brother's theme is probably even more impressive, just compare the rendition when Thor and friends cross Bifrost to the take when Loki crosses it alone and the theme is quite literally destroyed, only to be fragmented by piano after Loki lets go. Not even mentioning that gorgeous Odin/Family angst theme for the Banishment, the scene in the vault etc.

I know everyone is hung up on Cap's theme but the applicaton of the themes in Thor completely destroys it IMO. Doyle doesn't get half the credit he deserves.

 

[Spider-Vader]

Cap is my favorite MCU theme but Thor is definitely second. After watching Iron Man last night it was kinda said that there isnt a set theme for him.

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This was the theme of the first movie, but it was sadly abandoned in the second one. I actually really like it, the Cap theme, Doc Ock theme & this song are the only really memorable themes in the Marvel movies IMO.

 

[Godzilla2000]

I'm telling you I just can't get enough of Shen Gaoren's them right now. Hey, if my choices can't inspire then they really need to make a Monster Hunter live action movie that features some of the memorable songs from the games.

 

[Elevator Man]

That's probably because Thor's theme actually went somewhere. Cap's was heroic and, um heroic. Thor's could be weighty for the drama, romantic, heroic, sad... Thor's theme followed the character for every beat of the movie. Then the brother's theme is probably even more impressive, just compare the rendition when Thor and friends cross Bifrost to the take when Loki crosses it alone and the theme is quite literally destroyed, only to be fragmented by piano after Loki lets go. Not even mentioning that gorgeous Odin/Family angst theme for the Banishment, the scene in the vault etc.

I know everyone is hung up on Cap's theme but the applicaton of the themes in Thor completely destroys it IMO. Doyle doesn't get half the credit he deserves.

I agree. Silvestri couldn't turn the theme inside and out and on it's head. Or show that the theme can do many things. It was played mostly the same way. It really only captures Cap's heroic side. It's a good theme. But you can't do much with it, imo.

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This was the theme of the first movie, but it was sadly abandoned in the second one. I actually really like it, the Cap theme, Doc Ock theme & this song are the only really memorable themes in the Marvel movies IMO.

Glad to see someone else who appreciates Elfman's Doc Ock theme. One of the best villain themes in a CBM, imo. Waaaaaay better than Zimmer's one note Joker theme. I wish Silvestri would've came up with a strong villain theme for Red Skull. B/c I don't think he even had one in CA:TFA. Hopefully the villain(s) in Avengers will have a memorable and threatening theme.