The Avengers Avengers Villains (News and Speculation)

[Jordanstine]

A few may know that I posted this back on December 6th, since I have a real source who has seen the pre-screening of the Avengers:

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?p=22005935&highlight=#post22005935

A follow up to that post, was this regarding the aliens:

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?p=22006163&highlight=#post22006163

My source has also debunked any rumors that Red Skull and Thanos nor the Redacted were in the main film the moment those rumors materialized:

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?p=22211941&highlight=#post22211941

We all know Kevin Feige denied that the aliens were Skrulls or Kree. However, I was able to chat with my source again and showed said person a screenshot of the aliens from the Superbowl commercial. But aside from the aliens, something random came up between our conversation that took me by surprise and literally made my jaw drop.

Here is that transcript (edited to protect the names):

Spoiler

[FONT=&quot](11:20:01 PM) ME: quick question http://cdn.screenrant.com/wp-content/uploads/Lokis-Army-in-The-Avengers-movie.jpg were these the same aliens? Are they even Aliens?[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:20:25 PM) SOURCE: that looks like em.... like i said they were mostly men in green wearing metal masks [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:20:31 PM) SOURCE: mostly in greeen b/c they were still editing it.... [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:20:36 PM) ME: [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:20:40 PM) SOURCE: :-X[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:20:43 PM) ME: fine u win[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:20:51 PM) SOURCE: ;-)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:20:56 PM) ME: ur mean[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:21:00 PM) ME: j/k i luv u for the info[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:22:05 PM) SOURCE: i know i'm terrible[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:22:11 PM) ME: last question?[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:22:12 PM) ME: pls[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:22:14 PM) ME: prty pls?[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:22:22 PM) ME: last question are they Aliens? or just something else?[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:22:27 PM) ME: thats it promise[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:22:33 PM) SOURCE: :-X[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:22:40 PM) ME: cmon! [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:22:41 PM) ME: pls[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:22:49 PM) SOURCE: I cant remember what my friend said they were[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:22:56 PM) ME: skrulls[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:22:01 PM) ME: did ur friend say skrull[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:23:07 PM) SOURCE: sounds familiar[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:23:12 PM) ME: Skrull?[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:23:20 PM) ME: sure u just didnt hear it from me?[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:23:28 PM) ME: did ur friend really say skrull[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:23:29 PM) ME: ?[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:23:40 PM) ME: But these aliens are blue, could it be Kree?[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:23:51 PM) ME: btw the producer already denied them being skrull/kree so just deny it too[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:23:58 PM) SOURCE: :-X[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:24:22 PM) ME: so they could possibly be the Redacted or shiar?[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:24:33 PM) SOURCE: I already told you their not either of those[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:24:40 PM) ME: Aha! [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:24:46 PM) ME: you denied these….[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:25:00 PM) ME: but you wouldn’t deny if they were skrulls or kree, meaning they ARE skrulls/kree! [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:25:01 PM) ME: [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:25:12 PM) SOURCE: who says they have to be called that? [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:25:23 PM) SOURCE: honestly i myself dont remember hearing what they were specificly called[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:25:34 PM) ME: wait, so your still NOT denying it? could the producer be lying?[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:25:39 PM) SOURCE: no more chatting about the avengers until you see it[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:25:51 PM) ME: ur info’s driving me crazy[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:26:09 PM) ME: have you heard of a badoon?[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:26:17 PM) SOURCE: a what[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:26:26 PM) ME: nevermind [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:26:57 PM) ME: u win i give up[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:27:20 PM) ME: btw this is the same friend u said who knows comics and got u the entry right [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:27:21 PM) ME: ?[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:27:31 PM) SOURCE: who else do u think [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:27:36 PM) ME: :/[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:27:38 PM) ME: asdfjkl;[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:27:58 PM) ME: can u give me a small hint about anything else, it doesn’t have to be bout aliens[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:28:07 PM) ME: just could be about the movie in general[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:28:12 PM) ME: prty pls/? [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:28:24 PM) ME: fine [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:31:36 PM) ME: yawn[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:31:48 PM) ME: tired, stretchy time[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:32:10 PM) SOURCE: do you know capt marvel[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:32:21 PM) ME: holy what[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:32:25 PM) ME: u didnt[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:32:32 PM) ME: holy ****!!!!!!!!!!!!![/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:32:40 PM) ME: yes i do know Captain Marvel[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:32:51 PM) ME: what about him ? [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:32:59 PM) ME: what!/ [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:33:02 PM) ME: what?[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:33:28 PM) ME: this guy right? http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__VDRjVUsO2c/TIcZIRfEdII/AAAAAAAABCo/rWRTIFvvDjQ/s1600/40855-6458-46105-1-captain-marvel_super.jpg[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:33:38 PM) ME: you can t leave me hanging[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:34:01 PM) ME: cmon ---[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:34:13 PM) ME: is he in the movie?[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:34:38 PM) ME: is he? pls? pls? PLS?[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:34:57 PM) SOURCE: no he’s not[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:35:11 PM) SOURCE: just nevermind its nothing really[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:35:21 PM) ME: nothing!!!/?/[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:35:34 PM) ME: why would u bring ugp Capt Marvel if ti was nothing?[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:35:46 PM) ME: thats so random[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:35:55 PM) ME: a cameo?[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:36:06 PM) ME: reference?[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:36:25 PM) ME: …[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:36:32 PM) ME: …?[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:36:30 PM) ME: u win[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:36:41 PM) ME: i guess that was more than i could ask for[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:36:52 PM) ME: grateful for all ur info[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:36:59 PM) SOURCE: [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:41:02 PM) ME: someone’s back[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:41:11 PM) SOURCE: [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:41:26 PM) ME: that was some random bombshell[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:41:46 PM) ME: now i really wish Marvel is truly capitalizing on Captain Marvel like DC has theirs[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:41:58 PM) ME: whos doing the marketing @Marvel?[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:42:02 PM) ME: idiots[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:42:13 PM) ME: his name brand alone is a gold mine[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:42:33 PM) ME: Marvel has its own legit Superman w/ their own brand name but dont use it[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:42:50 PM) ME: *** MARVEL STUDIOS presents CAPTAIN MARVEL ***[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:42:56 PM) ME: bEAUTIFUL[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:43:02 PM) ME: Do it Disney!!![/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:43:17 PM) ME: they should have him appear in Avengers first, then make him his own movie[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:43:48 PM) ME: still there?[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:44:00 PM) ME: [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:44:10 PM) SOURCE: he is not in the mvoie, but thats just what hw said[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:44:18 PM) ME: what said?[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:44:26 PM) ME: oh ur skrull friend said?[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:44:35 PM) ME: no cap marv cameo[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:44:42 PM) ME: more just like a reference then?[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:44:55 PM) ME: or is ur friend saying the aliens are same race as Cap marvel?[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:44:56 PM) SOURCE: idk about ref[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:45:07 PM) ME: confused… [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:45:15 PM) SOURCE: the film is much bigger than it looks[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:45:27 PM) ME: so your friend is saying Cap Marvel may possibly b in future movies?[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:45:38 PM) SOURCE: [/FONT][FONT=&quot]i have NO CLUE[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:46:05 PM) ME: can u explain the “bigger than it looks”[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:46:19 PM) ME: does that have to do with how it ends?[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:46:56 PM) ME: have you seen Back to the future?[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:47:12 PM) SOURCE: [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:47:45 PM) ME: ok metaphor, does the film end more like Back/Future 1 more so than Back/Future part 2? [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:48:09 PM) SOURCE: good one[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](11:48:17 PM) SOURCE: thats enough. IM done. no more for real[/FONT]

RE: The Back to the Future reference - in our previous conversions, my source told me they were not shown any post-credit scene during the prescreening and that the prescreened film actually had a definitive ending - meaning it’s more like Back to the Future 1 where the main story closes, but there are still a lot of possibilities to explore… rather than an ending like Back to the Future 2 where the main story never finishes and basically continues on to kick start part 3. If you’ve seen the BTF movies you would understand.

Anyway, if you read back to my earlier posts… btw, here’s my post history on this forum:

http://forums.superherohype.com/search.php?searchid=9819887

Said source was not a big comic book person, didn’t even really heard of Thor until his movie came out. But for some reason threw out a name that only someone who reads comic books should know.

This is what I know so far:

My source has already debunked that Red Skull nor Thanos were in the film the moment the rumors circulated. For that matter, source has also denied Spider-Man way before Joss Whedon did.

My source just mentioned and then denied Captain Marvel on the same day, but I’m still not sure why he was even mentioned. My source said that his/her friend in our conversation knows more about the comics than they do, and this friend seemed to be the one that mentioned Captain Marvel to my source.

My guess is that the alien race may be tied to Captain Marvel in some way, either be it the same race or an alien race that has a big role in the Captain Marvel universe?

I know Kevin Feige already denied the Skrull/Kree but the fact that my source did not deny it, yet denied other alien races like the Redacted or Shiar which makes me think otherwise. Speaking of which, I also think I may have killed any notion of the Badoons either.

And regarding the Leviathan, as seen in my Dec. 6th post, there's actually more than 1 giant snake creatures that the Avengers have to face.

Again, I stand by everything I posted since I trust my source 100%.


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EDIT: I made the biggest oopsie by not realizing that I had left out a trace of the name of my source in my conversation above for a few mins. I have since deleted said person’s name, but for those who had already read it before my edit, I beg you to please do not disclose my source’s name on this board, otherwise news like this won’t ever happen again.

 

[KangConquers]

 

[MahvelBaby!]

Interesting, yet soooo soooo frustratingly confusing lol

 

[Morg]

we don't need a new thread when we already have a News and Speculation one