Anjow1060
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It's been talking about but never had an actual news source post that it's even been mentioned at Warners - so let's yak about it here.
If you remember correctly - when going the Batman Begins launch - WB heavily monitored this and another forum (who will not be named cuz the owner is an idiot). They took a lot of general ideas from fans on how to approach the film - and being back at square one (with Nolan more than likely not overseeing the project) they'll no doubt come back to the well.
Let's put some water in it shall we?
What are we saying towards an *adaptation* of the Batman Beyond series?
I say adaptation as it's best to realize that downright following a mythology verbatim can be troubling when brought to film and could also (in this posters opinion) become very predictable and boring.
Let's address what issues would be needed to be addressed / altered for the sake of a Batman Beyond trilogy / franchise.
For me:
1) I think it would need to be a seperate mythology from Nolan's. While this may be confusing to general audiences at first - they'll catch on. By doing this - we don't allow them to play the part fanboys usually do where they cook up what a story / film SHOULD be about and instead let them take the suspenseful ride on their own. It'd also do those wonderful little things where the new film makers wouldn't be tied down because of Nolan's Hyper-Realism.
2) The story of Terry McGuinnis. Let's be honest here - there's a lot of heat on good old Terry because he's not Dick Grayson. Or Jason Todd. Or Timm Drake. And that's fine. Those characters should get their due sometime. But for the sake of this franchise - the focus should really be about Terry. How he copes with his father's death, taking care of his remaining family and friends - and most definitely illustrating how he's NOT Bruce Wayne.... but is slowly following in Bruce's footsteps to the world of isolation and loneliness. Which Brings me to my next point.
3) THIS mythology's Bruce wayne needs to be established as separate from the Nolan one. People will assume it's the same unless established story elements directly prove it different. The reason I say this is because one of the key components in the overall mythology of Beyond is that Terry escapes from the curse, unlike Bruce. And the only way we could really see this is by seeing that Bruce DID fall into this trap.
4) The suit. It's basically Batman's suit with the capabilities of Iron Man.... and then some. While I'm all about cool new gadgets and the like - the cowl itself is going to have to differ greatly. For example the eyes - much like BTAS have the white triangles. So what happens here? Do we get a Batman Forever / TDK lenses treatment? Do we get the eye holes with black makeup around them and maybe white contacts with digital capabilities? It's an interesting design question to ask indeed. But there in lies the 2nd question - the mouth piece. In the Beyond Mythology his mouth moves as part of the mask. In the real life adaptation - is this a cut out piece like the classic suit? Is it stretched fabric like Spider-man? Is it a physical piece ala Darth Vader?
I'm open to hearing some awesome ideas gents and ladies. Let's go!
- Jow
If you remember correctly - when going the Batman Begins launch - WB heavily monitored this and another forum (who will not be named cuz the owner is an idiot). They took a lot of general ideas from fans on how to approach the film - and being back at square one (with Nolan more than likely not overseeing the project) they'll no doubt come back to the well.
Let's put some water in it shall we?
What are we saying towards an *adaptation* of the Batman Beyond series?
I say adaptation as it's best to realize that downright following a mythology verbatim can be troubling when brought to film and could also (in this posters opinion) become very predictable and boring.
Let's address what issues would be needed to be addressed / altered for the sake of a Batman Beyond trilogy / franchise.
For me:
1) I think it would need to be a seperate mythology from Nolan's. While this may be confusing to general audiences at first - they'll catch on. By doing this - we don't allow them to play the part fanboys usually do where they cook up what a story / film SHOULD be about and instead let them take the suspenseful ride on their own. It'd also do those wonderful little things where the new film makers wouldn't be tied down because of Nolan's Hyper-Realism.
2) The story of Terry McGuinnis. Let's be honest here - there's a lot of heat on good old Terry because he's not Dick Grayson. Or Jason Todd. Or Timm Drake. And that's fine. Those characters should get their due sometime. But for the sake of this franchise - the focus should really be about Terry. How he copes with his father's death, taking care of his remaining family and friends - and most definitely illustrating how he's NOT Bruce Wayne.... but is slowly following in Bruce's footsteps to the world of isolation and loneliness. Which Brings me to my next point.
3) THIS mythology's Bruce wayne needs to be established as separate from the Nolan one. People will assume it's the same unless established story elements directly prove it different. The reason I say this is because one of the key components in the overall mythology of Beyond is that Terry escapes from the curse, unlike Bruce. And the only way we could really see this is by seeing that Bruce DID fall into this trap.
4) The suit. It's basically Batman's suit with the capabilities of Iron Man.... and then some. While I'm all about cool new gadgets and the like - the cowl itself is going to have to differ greatly. For example the eyes - much like BTAS have the white triangles. So what happens here? Do we get a Batman Forever / TDK lenses treatment? Do we get the eye holes with black makeup around them and maybe white contacts with digital capabilities? It's an interesting design question to ask indeed. But there in lies the 2nd question - the mouth piece. In the Beyond Mythology his mouth moves as part of the mask. In the real life adaptation - is this a cut out piece like the classic suit? Is it stretched fabric like Spider-man? Is it a physical piece ala Darth Vader?
I'm open to hearing some awesome ideas gents and ladies. Let's go!
- Jow
