Batman/Bruce Wayne Casting Thread - Part 4

[I Am The Knight]

"I got the non confirmed scoop first!" "No, I got the non confirmed scoop first!!"
Those grown men are embrassing.

As for Jack O’Connell, I watched him on Skins a long time ago and he was great. He's no Batman for me, he's too short and I won't be able to take him seriously as Batman next to Momoa, no matter how much heels he'll wear. He'd be perfect for Jason tho.

Jesus, what is your avvy from?

 

[I Am The Knight]

You guys still falling for Manasrepublic trolling eh?

 

[Loden Greatstorm]

What about an Asian Batman? He could be an adopted child of the Waynes. As they are killed, he goes East to search for his roots and find out more about his birth parents. He learns eventually that his father is none other than Ras-Al-Ghul and his mother is Lady Shiva. They both want to wreck Gotham and restart things anew.

The emotional weight of such a story would be striking, controversial and divisive which is the direction this film needs to go to truly succeed. We would have never seen a Bruce with that type of conflict. He lost one set of parents and now he must make the hard choice to fight against his birth parents and lose them or turn to the darkness and embrace them so he finally has a Mum and Pop

Stop the madness.

 

[Poppy]

They made RDJ look over 6'0" in the MCU films. Tom Cruise has made a career out of looking taller than he really is. Tom Hardy was made to look toe-to-toe with Christian Bale in TDKR. This has been proven to be a non-issue time and time again. If Reeves wants to make O'Connell appear taller than he is in real life, he can do so.

and RDJ body still looked smaller next to Evans, even if if they managed to make him look as tall as Evans. It's not just the heigh but also the body. If we were talking about a independant trilogy, I wouldn't be bothered by the actor heigh at all. But next to Gadot, Momoa and whoever is going to play Superman, I'd prefer to see a bigger/taller actor.

Jesus, what is your avvy from?

 

[Cain]

I'd rather they keep Ben and set it post-Justice League than cast that guy. Especially since the older established Batman with full blown batfamily is something I've been wanting forever. It's disappointing to see it might just be more baby Batman bull**** coming our way.

In a perfect world Reeves makes his prequels but we also get Batfamily joints based on Under the Red Hood, Batman R.I.P., Lonely Place of Dying, Hush etc. with an older Bats on the side. I know WB has this stupid oversaturation theory with the goddamn Batman though so I'll keep an open mind but this direction seems pretty uninspiring to me and that particular actor does not convince me.

I kinda hope Reeves ends up leaving as I found his Apes movies and everything else pretty boring and one note but I also do want a solo so I guess I'll deal.

 

[Micromind]

Yeah, as Reeve's Batman movies are set in years when Batman was younger and his movies may not feature any other superheroes from DCEU they are effectively standalone movies. So let the current version of seasoned, old Batman be played by Affleck, there's no harm in having two different actors play Batman in two different time lines.

Ben Affleck (or his replacement actor in same age range, for example Richard Armitage/Jon Hamm) can work in ensemble movies like Justice League 2, (or other team-up movies), this Batman will exist in a world where Superheroes exist in DCEU.

 

[flickchick85]

I would not complain if O’Connell were cast. As I said when Hughes put him on that wishlist, he was like the one good option on it.

 

[flickchick85]

Yeah, I think she was being considered for Huntress. The role ultimately went to MEW, though.

Thank God.

 

[Boy Scout]

The problem with having a 5'8 actor as Batman is that seriously limits the actors they can pick for supporting cast. Say you have a 5'11 perfect actress for Catwoman, you can't have her because especially with heels Batman is gonna look super small.

1) Movie magic is a thing. I don’t understand why people keep making such a fuss over height when it’s been proven that it can be worked around.

It’s crazy to me that people can give talking raccoons, alien spaceships, Middle Earth, and literally everything in Doctor Strange an opportunity to be fully realized, but draw the line when it comes to casting a relatively short actor.

2) I get the point you’re trying to make, but there is a 1% chance that the actress playing Catwoman would ever be that tall.

3) I’ve heard that casting actors who are around the same height makes it easier to frame a shot. So a woman of average height paired with a man of below average height might allow for more dynamic shots.

What about an Asian Batman? He could be an adopted child of the Waynes. As they are killed, he goes East to search for his roots and find out more about his birth parents. He learns eventually that his father is none other than Ras-Al-Ghul and his mother is Lady Shiva. They both want to wreck Gotham and restart things anew.

The emotional weight of such a story would be striking, controversial and divisive which is the direction this film needs to go to truly succeed. We would have never seen a Bruce with that type of conflict. He lost one set of parents and now he must make the hard choice to fight against his birth parents and lose them or turn to the darkness and embrace them so he finally has a Mum and Pop

You lost me after the first sentence.

 

[2kt09]

It’s crazy to me that people are willing to give a talking raccoon a chance, but not a relatively short actor.

because talking raccoon is obviously absurd and silly

 

[Boom]

and RDJ body still looked smaller next to Evans, even if if they managed to make him look as tall as Evans. It's not just the heigh but also the body. If we were talking about a independant trilogy, I wouldn't be bothered by the actor heigh at all. But next to Gadot, Momoa and whoever is going to play Superman, I'd prefer to see a bigger/taller actor.

To be fair, everybody looks smaller next to Chris Evans. I'm 6'3" and I'd look smaller next to Chris Evans.

I am also not quite convinced that we ever see these actors brought back together again for another Justice League movie. I'm just not. And even if they do decide to make more Justice League movies, it's obvious enough that Reeves' casting such a younger actor would mean that his film is either a prequel or a standalone. In that case, O'Connell's casting would have zero bearing on future Justice League movies anyway.

 

[Invader Joker]

To be fair, everybody looks smaller next to Chris Evans. I'm 6'3" and I'd look smaller next to Chris Evans.

I am also not quite convinced that we ever see these actors brought back together again for another Justice League movie. I'm just not. And even if they do decide to make more Justice League movies, it's obvious enough that Reeves' casting such a younger actor would mean that his film is either a prequel or a standalone. In that case, O'Connell's casting would have zero bearing on future Justice League movies anyway.

Aquaman just made a billion.
Wonder Woman made 800 million.
If Shazam continues that trend, it'd be stupid to not try Justice League again and get 1.5 billion like the Avengers.
They'd have to heavily rebrand but who cares.

 

[KevTravels]

They made RDJ look over 6'0" in the MCU films. Tom Cruise has made a career out of looking taller than he really is. Tom Hardy was made to look toe-to-toe with Christian Bale in TDKR. This has been proven to be a non-issue time and time again. If Reeves wants to make O'Connell appear taller than he is in real life, he can do so.

O'Connell would look larger in the costume just by virtue of muscle padding and combat boots giving him extra height. As for the Bruce Wayne scenes, that's a simple matter of camera angles and lifts. If O'Connell is Reeves' guy, in the sense that he wants nobody else for the role, they can work around the height issue. The more important thing to do is nail down the actor you think will deliver the best performance for what you are trying to do.

RDJ is 5'8. His lifts make him appear5'11. He never appeared tall in the films. I doubt most fans cared if he was tall because the performance was so charismatic. But Batman needs to be Big. Af least 6 feet.

 

[Cain]

Granted Keats is still a gold standard for Bats and he's 5'8ish or something like that; but again if this is supposed to be a younger Batfleck you need to cast accordingly. It'd be way different if this was a truly standalone Batman but it's not. It's a fleshing out of the currently established one. You need consistency.

 

[Boom]

Aquaman just made a billion.
Wonder Woman made 800 million.
If Shazam continues that trend, it'd be stupid to not try Justice League again and get 1.5 billion like the Avengers.
They'd have to heavily rebrand but who cares.

I have a bad feeling about Shazam!, but we'll see about that one.

As for the successes of Aquaman and WW, all that tells me is that they've found success with solo properties. I can just as easily see them sticking with that formula.

 

[thebatfan5194]

I think for a JL2 to happen you would need a filmmaker to come along with a good pitch on top of continued success with the solo movies.

By the time it happens they should just use the guy Reeves has cast, no one will care about Batfleck by then.

I’m kind of bummed that he may be going younger, like 25-30. I was hoping we could get an established Batman in his prime. Maybe this is all a smoke screen and Jack is up for Dick Grayson or Jason Todd.

 

[Cain]

Best option for JL2 would be Legion of Doom. Get Deathstroke to beat Batman near death. Get Supes to dunk Batfleck into a Lazarus Pit DK III style. Have the Reeves actor emerge and carry on from there. The general public within the DCEU could just assume Wayne did all sorts of plastic surgery to regain his youthful looks. They already think he's vain and superficial. Or kill off Batfleck and replace with Dickbats; but what do I know.

 

[Superherofan123]

Best option for JL2 would be Legion of Doom. Get Deathstroke to beat Batman near death. Get Supes to dunk Batfleck into a Lazarus Pit DK III style. Have the Reeves actor emerge and carry on from there. The general public within the DCEU could just assume Wayne did all sorts of plastic surgery to regain his youthful looks. They already think he's vain and superficial. Or kill off Batfleck and replace with Dickbats; but what do I know.

All good until the last bit. I wish they’d just keep Ben.

 

[Invader Joker]

I could see Reeves directing a Justice League movie based on Tower of Babel.

 

[Cain]

All good until the last bit. I wish they’d just keep Ben.

Me too. Just a worst case scenario if they do recast. It has comic book precedent already so it would be easier to sell something like that to the audience. Superhero movie audiences are more anal retentitive with continuity compared to the past and this is a good way to not wipe away the established shared universe canon but still get a fresh start.

 

[Cain]

I could see Reeves directing a Justice League movie based on Tower of Babel.

I'd actually like James Wan for a JL joint. He's good at juggling ensemble casts.

 

[Invader Joker]

I'd actually like James Wan for a JL joint. He's good at juggling ensemble casts.

Yeah, but if Reeves is the one that has the most conflict with fitting his Batman into the rest of the universe you might as well put him at the helm of JL so there are as few problems as possible in relation to his Batman.

 

[thebatfan5194]

Best option for JL2 would be Legion of Doom. Get Deathstroke to beat Batman near death. Get Supes to dunk Batfleck into a Lazarus Pit DK III style. Have the Reeves actor emerge and carry on from there. The general public within the DCEU could just assume Wayne did all sorts of plastic surgery to regain his youthful looks. They already think he's vain and superficial. Or kill off Batfleck and replace with Dickbats; but what do I know.

I don’t think it needs to be that complicated.

Let’s say JL2 comes out in like 2023/2024 (which I don’t think is that unrealistic given the state of things). That will be almost 6-7 years since we last saw Batfleck, much less the JL and we may already have had a movie with the new actor and maybe a sequel in the pipeline already.

Is it really worth going to all the “in universe” trouble to explain away the recast when we’ve already acclimated to this new Batman anyway? I say just use the new guy and not make a fuss about it.

It feels fresher/harder to comprehend now but by the time 2024 rolls around is anyone really going to care about Batfleck anymore? Especially when we will hopefully have had potentially like 8-10 more well receievd movies since then?

 

[Cain]

I don’t think it needs to be that complicated.

Let’s say JL2 comes out in like 2023/2024 (which I don’t think is that unrealistic given the state of things). That will be almost 6-7 years since we last saw Batfleck, much less the JL and we may already have had a movie with the new actor and maybe a sequel in the pipeline already.

Is it really worth going to all the “in universe” trouble to explain away the recast when we’ve already acclimated to this new Batman anyway? I say just use the new guy and not make a fuss about it.

It feels fresher/harder to comprehend now but by the time 2024 rolls around is anyone really going to care about Batfleck anymore? Especially when we will hopefully have had potentially like 8-10 more well receievd movies since then?

We'll see. I don't see them waiting that long for another ensemble with the big guns anymore. Especially if upcoming ensembles like Birds of Prey and New Gods perform beautifully.

 

[Mani-Man]

I don’t think it needs to be that complicated.

Let’s say JL2 comes out in like 2023/2024 (which I don’t think is that unrealistic given the state of things). That will be almost 6-7 years since we last saw Batfleck, much less the JL and we may already have had a movie with the new actor and maybe a sequel in the pipeline already.

Is it really worth going to all the “in universe” trouble to explain away the recast when we’ve already acclimated to this new Batman anyway? I say just use the new guy and not make a fuss about it.

It feels fresher/harder to comprehend now but by the time 2024 rolls around is anyone really going to care about Batfleck anymore? Especially when we will hopefully have had potentially like 8-10 more well receievd movies since then?

I still think that flash should be a priority with flashpoint being in the back of their heads.
Yeah you could just roll with a possible newly casted batman and act like its totally normal, but i think that "in universe" flashpoint would be a good thing to "fix" the timeline and have a better starting point.

Additionally they could use Affleck as Thomas Wayne in Flashpoint, start the movie with affleck as batman and when flash returns, have the new batman be in his place

Hell i could even see them do flashpoint without Flash in the end meeting the Prime Earth characters and start a new "the justice league comes together for the first time" kind of storyline.

Its hard to say where to go from here, a lot is possible.