Batman Forever

[Nightwing1977]

Im glad it happened the way that it did!

Me too. Glad he didn't play Robin, 'cause we wouldn't have one of the best Batman so far now.

Legend has it that when Bale was denied the role of Robin, he turned to Schumacher, looked him straight in the eyes, and said "I will return to this franchise. And when I do... I'll be the goddamn BATMAN."

LMAO!! I wish that really happend & I would love to see Joel's face when it finally did happend.

 

[The Shape]

Here's one thing that bothers me about BF to this day:

Why was it important to show that when he was suiting up in the Sonar suit????

 

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

Here's one thing that bothers me about BF to this day:

Why was it important to show that when he was suiting up in the Sonar suit????

for stupid comedic reasons

 

[The Shape]

for stupid comedic reasons

I don't think that was meant to be comedic, it was supposed to be "cool". They did it in B&R too.

 

[Noir]

I wish they released a Directors cut of Forever.

 

[The Guard]

Go and watch the extras to BF and youll hear my quote atleast a few times, even from the producers, so I say your WRONG!

Just because someone says something doesn't mean it was the only consideration for a portrayal of the character.

Again..."biker" doesn't equal "MTV" circa 1993-1995

 

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

Just because someone says something doesn't mean it was the only consideration for a portrayal of the character.

Again..."biker" doesn't equal "MTV" circa 1993-1995

Im glad you know your wrong!!! Oh and from what I remember being a biker is always cool to young teens etc. its not like he was a Hells Angel. Get your facts straight, watch the extras on the SE of BF before trying to debate with me, unless you have specific articles from around the time the film was released. t:

 

[The Joker_1000]

Legend has it that when Bale was denied the role of Robin, he turned to Schumacher, looked him straight in the eyes, and said "I will return to this franchise. And when I do... I'll be the goddamn BATMAN."

That was a good laugh. Wish it were true.

 

[Lord Doom]

That was a good laugh. Wish it were true.

It is.

 

[Mr. Socko]

Here's one thing that bothers me about BF to this day:

Why was it important to show that when he was suiting up in the Sonar suit????

Important to show what?

 

[The Shape]

Important to show what?

http://www.batmanunmasked.com/displayimage.php?album=35&pos=179

 

[Mr. Socko]

The picture actually works now lol


Oh goodness. I don't think he deserves to be bashed for things like that as much as he is...but that's one of the several examples of Joel going overboard.

 

[BatmanForNever]

Well you do need to remember that Joel is gay. And he wants to show Batman's butt in leather he will. Batman and Robin to a twisted mind can have homosexual undertones, they aren't intended, but any fool looking for something can find it.

 

[The Joker_1000]

I totally didn't know he was gay. Probably his whole reason for wanting to make Batman movies anyway....sick bastard.

 

[Nightwing1977]

Why was it important to show that when he was suiting up in the Sonar suit????

That because Batman doesn't have an ass. I think Schmucker wanted to show he does when he put on that suit.

 

[The Joker_1000]

I seriously didn't know he was gay....I still can't get over that. I should've know it dammit....

 

[Bat-Mite]

I totally didn't know he was gay. Probably his whole reason for wanting to make Batman movies anyway....sick bastard.

It's nice to see that people are still unable to criticize Schumacher's Batman films without attacking his sexuality as well, even though it's irrelevant to the issue at hand. I think it's important to point out that Warner Bros. TOLD Joel to lighten these movies up, because they didn't want the soccer moms to throw a fit like they did over Batman Returns. And they obviously weren't upset with Batman Forever, or they wouldn't have paid Joel to make Batman and Robin. Not to mention the fact that they apparently approved the script for that movie as well. So they're just as much to blame as Joel is.

 

[Noir]

I totally didn't know he was gay. Probably his whole reason for wanting to make Batman movies anyway....sick bastard.

 

[RobC]

Oh god, we're not starting this again. There is a topic to post any feelings about Joel's sexuality affecting the Batman movies.

But on the lighter side, I didn't know Joel was gay either!

Back to topic, yeah Chris O'Donnell was cast for the MTV crew, I think that's an almost direct quote from the SE. It would have been crazy to see Bale as Robin, that whole idea freaks me out!

 

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

Oh god, we're not starting this again. There is a topic to post any feelings about Joel's sexuality affecting the Batman movies.

But on the lighter side, I didn't know Joel was gay either!

Back to topic, yeah Chris O'Donnell was cast for the MTV crew, I think that's an almost direct quote from the SE. It would have been crazy to see Bale as Robin, that whole idea freaks me out!

See atleast some people know their facts before speaking out like they know what theyre talking about and starting a debate they cant win lol. Im surprised most people didnt know Joel was gay, I mean as flamboyant as he is its hard not to tell. Either way his sexuality had nothing to do with how much I enjoyed BF.

 

[Mr. Socko]

Well you do need to remember that Joel is gay. And he wants to show Batman's butt in leather he will. Batman and Robin to a twisted mind can have homosexual undertones, they aren't intended, but any fool looking for something can find it.

Joel simply exemplified sexuality in general, as he takes credit for doing so on many docs in the SE DVDs. It wasn't so much a homosexual undertone, just a sexual tone. The seductiveness of Poison Ivy and the alluring qualities of Chase Meridian. Through this, Joel decided to equally demonstrate a sexual tone in the men as well- via their Olympian sculpted suits. I imagine most straight directors would have been too afraid to equally show men in the same light of sensuousness as women so he therefore gets branded as making Batman gay!

Schumacher says on the Shadow of the Bat documentary that he liked how the men and women are so anatomically rendered in the comic books and he just wanted to put this on screen. I personally think it was a fine idea to display the affinity and sexual tone of the characters just as you would find in any Jim Lee comic book, it simply took a gay director to equally show the men and the women in an equal tone. With that said, there are parts where Joel went too far, the butt shots of Batman, Robin, & Batgirl, as well as cod-shots were unnecessary.

 

[Mr. Socko]

I totally didn't know he was gay. Probably his whole reason for wanting to make Batman movies anyway....sick bastard.

Grow up

Oh god, we're not starting this again. There is a topic to post any feelings about Joel's sexuality affecting the Batman movies.

But on the lighter side, I didn't know Joel was gay either!

Back to topic, yeah Chris O'Donnell was cast for the MTV crew, I think that's an almost direct quote from the SE. It would have been crazy to see Bale as Robin, that whole idea freaks me out!

Schumacher also states Jude Law, Alan Cumming, Ewan McGregor, and many others also auditioned for the role! I'm a fan of all of those guys but at the time, I do think O'Donnell was the best choice...if only he were maybe just a few years younger.

 

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

Joel simply exemplified sexuality in general, as he takes credit for doing so on many docs in the SE DVDs. It wasn't so much a homosexual undertone, just a sexual tone. The seductiveness of Poison Ivy and the alluring qualities of Chase Meridian. Through this, Joel decided to equally demonstrate a sexual tone in the men as well- via their Olympian sculpted suits. I imagine most straight directors would have been too afraid to equally show men in the same light of sensuousness as women so he therefore gets branded as making Batman gay!

Schumacher says on the Shadow of the Bat documentary that he liked how the men and women are so anatomically rendered in the comic books and he just wanted to put this on screen. I personally think it was a fine idea to display the affinity and sexual tone of the characters just as you would find in any Jim Lee comic book, it simply took a gay director to equally show the men and the women in an equal tone. With that said, there are parts where Joel went too far, the butt shots of Batman, Robin, & Batgirl, as well as cod-shots were unnecessary.

I can agree 100% to that!

 

[I3ATIVIAN]

Grow up



Schumacher also states Jude Law, Alan Cumming, Ewan McGregor, and many others also auditioned for the role! I'm a fan of all of those guys but at the time, I do think O'Donnell was the best choice...if only he were maybe just a few years younger.

I hate to say it but I'm going to agree with Joker about this...

No offense to gay people, I don't mind gay people as long as your happy and not killing people and doing gay stuff to them good for you. But Joel being gay is what made the Batman's suck. One,it added the infamous nipples to the suits. Two, the butt shots and suit shots were always there when putting on the suit. Three, Batman's ego was a little girlish sometimes it seems. Not to mention he did change Batman forever.

 

[Mr. Socko]

I hate to say it but I'm going to agree with Joker about this...

No offense to gay people, I don't mind gay people as long as your happy and not killing people and doing gay stuff to them good for you.

Please, just shut the hell up with your irrelevant yapping.

But Joel being gay is what made the Batman's suck.

How is Joel being gay made Batman suck? I think you are an idiot for thinking so. His sexuality has nothing to do with whether or not one of his movies is good or not good. But mostly, it's just your opinion as others such as myself found Batman Forever to be a great superhero movie that didn't suck.

One,it added the infamous nipples to the suits.

Nipples on the suit? What did it matter? Nothing at all, that's what it mattered. Are you telling me you would have liked B&R had the nipples not been there? DID NIPPLES ON THE SUIT ACTUALLY MAKE THE MOVIE BAD? The answer is a resounding NO.

Two, the butt shots and suit shots were always there when putting on the suit.

The butt shots is the only thing I can even agree with. There was nothing wrong with the normal suit shots.

Three, Batman's ego was a little girlish sometimes it seems. Not to mention he did change Batman forever.

No, it wasn't.